šŸˆ Pahokee kicks out Tennessee football coaches

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Pahokee kicks out Tennessee football coaches, insists Lane Kiffin apologize in person

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2009/05/11/a1c_pahokee_0512.html

Three months after Kiffin insulted the school and community while talking to Tennessee boosters, a new controversy was sparked last week.
Tennessee assistant coach Eddie Gran, who helped swing star receiver Nu'Keese Richardson from Florida to the Volunteers, arrived at Pahokee's campus last week to offer junior Antonio Ford a scholarship.
Upset that Kiffin has yet to directly apologize to the school and the community for implying they are inept, Alejo told Gran no one from Tennessee is permitted on school grounds until Kiffin satisfies that demand............

The article goes into a little more detail from that. Anyway, I made a reply a few days ago regarding an off hand remark that they had been kicked out, but this is more of a direct revelation. Karma has already begun to bite.
 
You do have to wonder about him. With that being said, I did not like it when the high school in Miami told Alabama to never come down there again. I don't think it is a coach's right to not allow a high school player the right to meet with a coach who is offering him a scholarship. This is the kids future we are talking about. If Tennessee or Alabama or Jax St. is the right school for him, then who is his high school coach to deny him the right. But I sure do love all the bad attention Kiffin has brought to Tennessee. :rofl:
 
You do have to wonder about him. With that being said, I did not like it when the high school in Miami told Alabama to never come down there again. I don't think it is a coach's right to not allow a high school player the right to meet with a coach who is offering him a scholarship. This is the kids future we are talking about. If Tennessee or Alabama or Jax St. is the right school for him, then who is his high school coach to deny him the right. But I sure do love all the bad attention Kiffin has brought to Tennessee. :rofl:


Well said.
 
Lane Kiffin is successful. He is smart, young, and has what appears to be a great family.

He isn't stupid. His problem is an acquired sense of superiority over Southern folk. Minnesotans, as do the great majority of residents from other areas of the nation, consider themselves better than Southerners.

It is what I can only define, in my limited knowledge of human nature, as an arrogant and ultimately harmful state of being. It harms them more than it does us. They don't have the ability to relate to us as we are and accept us for who we are. What a waste.

We are a proud people and we aren't stupid, we aren't uneducated, we do have electricity and plumbing. I used to regularly visit my cousin in Brooklyn back in the early 90's. This is before I started college, I took about 6 months off after HS.

It would floor you to really realize the amount of contempt and bigoted ideas many of these so called advanced cultures of the United States have about us. On the whole, their ideas and their cultural bias reveals much more about their innate ignorance than it does anything.

There are millions upon millions of so called educated individuals who judge and condemn human beings without ever having visited their area of the country. Their knowledge of us consists of what their parents, friends, relatives, etc... have told them to believe and what they view on the tube.

I feel sorry for them in many ways. They are not whole, they are consumed by venomous anger that has no grounding in reality or tangible experiences. When they go off discussing their distaste for anything or anyone from the South, I have many times felt it would do them good to have their faces vomited upon.

That is why Lane Kiffin didn't blink an eyelash when he ravaged Pahokee. He considered it his right as an elevated person from a more advanced part of the nation. We are seen as droopy eyed morons that need to be guided and taught.

So many generations of them have had these ideas about Southerners fed to them from the day they were born by their Archie Bunkeresque parents who are just as ill-informed as their parents before them were.
 
You do have to wonder about him. With that being said, I did not like it when the high school in Miami told Alabama to never come down there again. I don't think it is a coach's right to not allow a high school player the right to meet with a coach who is offering him a scholarship. This is the kids future we are talking about. If Tennessee or Alabama or Jax St. is the right school for him, then who is his high school coach to deny him the right. But I sure do love all the bad attention Kiffin has brought to Tennessee. :rofl:

FWIW, that high school has changed its policy now and we are recruiting down there this year.

What St. Thomas Aquinas' principle did in our case was just bull-chizik. He was upset because we fired Shula.

In this case, while I don't necessarily agree with the kids losing opportunities (if UT is recruiting them, so are a lot of other schools) the reasoning here is understandable.
 
I can't believe a college football coach would be ignorant enough to say the things that Kiffin allegedly says in that article. He's got to be dumb as dirt if it's true.

Oh, it's true. Here's a copy of the original story...

Thursday was a busy day for Tennessee football coach Lane Kiffin, who frustrated Southeastern Conference officials, Florida coach Urban Meyer and administrators at Pahokee (Fla.) High.
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</td></tr><tr><td align="center">Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin apologized Thursday for accusing Florida of a recruiting violation.</td></tr></tbody></table><!-- End Image--> Kiffin apologized to Meyer on Thursday afternoon after he accused Meyer on Thursday morning of breaking NCAA rules by contacting eventual Tennessee signee Nu'Keese Richardson during an official visit to Knoxville. Kiffin made the comments at a "recruiting celebration" attended by about 1,000 Vols fans at the Knoxville Convention Center.
Richardson, a wide receiver from Pahokee High, had been committed to Florida since May but signed with Tennessee on Wednesday.
"In my enthusiasm for our recruiting class, I made some statements that were meant solely to excite those at the breakfast," Kiffin said. "I apologize to commissioner Mike Slive and the SEC, including Florida A.D. Jeremy Foley and coach Urban Meyer. My comments were not intended to offend anyone at the University of Florida."
Kiffin had told fans Meyer violated an NCAA rule by calling Richardson during his official visit to Knoxville in late January, saying, "I love the fact that Urban had to cheat and still didn't get him [Richardson]. Great job, man!"
But there is no such rule, and later in the day, Kiffin received a reprimand from Slive.
"Coach Kiffin has violated the Southeastern Conference Code of Ethics," Slive said in a statement. "SEC Bylaw 10.5.1 clearly states that coaches and administrators shall refrain from directed public criticism of other member institutions, their staffs or players.
"The phone call to which Coach Kiffin referred to in his public comments is not a violation of SEC or NCAA rules. We expect our coaches to have an understanding and knowledge of conference and NCAA rules."
In a late-morning statement, Florida never denied Meyer called Richardson during the player's Jan. 31 visit to Knoxville but pointed out that it wasn't a violation. Foley also called for a Kiffin apology.
"It is completely unfair to Urban Meyer, our coaching staff, our football program and our institution," Foley said in the statement. "The appropriate action at this time in my opinion is for Coach Kiffin to make a public apology. His comments not only slandered our coach, but he violated SEC rules by publicly criticizing another coach and institution."
At the recruiting event Thursday morning, Kiffin also implied that Tennessee might not have been able to sign Richardson had he tried to fax in his letter of intent from Pahokee High. Kiffin said Vols coaches asked Richardson and his aunts to keep Richardson's Tennessee commitment quiet and to sign and fax the LOI from somewhere other than the high school.
"They didn't go do it at the school because they knew somebody at the school was going to screw it up, the fax machine wouldn't work or they would have changed the signatures – all the things that go on in Pahokee," Kiffin told the crowd in Knoxville.
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</td></tr><tr><td align="center">Urban Meyer's boss at Florida defended the Gators' coach.</td></tr></tbody></table><!-- End Image-->On Thursday afternoon, Kiffin said his comments were meant to show he wanted to be careful when entering the stronghold of another program.
"Anytime you go into an area that's been dominated by a school, as Pahokee has by Florida, it's extremely hard," he said. "There are so many people there that would like him to go to Florida; there are so many things you have to fight and overcome for him to eventually sign with you. … You just want to cover all your bases."
Pahokee coach Blaze Thompson, who has been head coach for two years and has been at the school since 1995, said he was surprised by the accusation; Thompson said cornerback Janoris Jenkins, from the class of 2008, was the first Pahokee player to sign with Florida in decades.
"Pahokee is not dominated by any program," Thompson said. "We've sent more people to Michigan than to Florida over the last couple of years. … I'm not sure where this came from, but I am disappointed."
Thompson also said he never has seen a name changed on an official document or seen any coercion to get a player to sign at a particular school.
 
You do have to wonder about him. With that being said, I did not like it when the high school in Miami told Alabama to never come down there again. I don't think it is a coach's right to not allow a high school player the right to meet with a coach who is offering him a scholarship. This is the kids future we are talking about. If Tennessee or Alabama or Jax St. is the right school for him, then who is his high school coach to deny him the right. But I sure do love all the bad attention Kiffin has brought to Tennessee. :rofl:


It is the school's right to deny entry to disruptive or harmful influences. Is there a rule on the NCAA's books that say a high school athlete can't meet a college coach off the property of the high school?

As far as I know, I have never read about a coach telling a player he will not be permitted to go to whatever college he wishes.
 
It is the school's right to deny entry to disruptive or harmful influences. Is there a rule on the NCAA's books that say a high school athlete can't meet a college coach off the property of the high school?

As far as I know, I have never read about a coach telling a player he will not be permitted to go to whatever college he wishes.

Technically, yes there is.

If a coach meets a kid outside of his high school it goes down as an official in-home visit - which are limited in number.
 
Lane Kiffin is successful. He is smart, young, and has what appears to be a great family.

He isn't stupid. His problem is an acquired sense of superiority over Southern folk. Minnesotans, as do the great majority of residents from other areas of the nation, consider themselves better than Southerners.

It is what I can only define, in my limited knowledge of human nature, as an arrogant and ultimately harmful state of being. It harms them more than it does us. They don't have the ability to relate to us as we are and accept us for who we are. What a waste.

We are a proud people and we aren't stupid, we aren't uneducated, we do have electricity and plumbing. I used to regularly visit my cousin in Brooklyn back in the early 90's. This is before I started college, I took about 6 months off after HS.

It would floor you to really realize the amount of contempt and bigoted ideas many of these so called advanced cultures of the United States have about us. On the whole, their ideas and their cultural bias reveals much more about their innate ignorance than it does anything.

There are millions upon millions of so called educated individuals who judge and condemn human beings without ever having visited their area of the country. Their knowledge of us consists of what their parents, friends, relatives, etc... have told them to believe and what they view on the tube.

I feel sorry for them in many ways. They are not whole, they are consumed by venomous anger that has no grounding in reality or tangible experiences. When they go off discussing their distaste for anything or anyone from the South, I have many times felt it would do them good to have their faces vomited upon.

That is why Lane Kiffin didn't blink an eyelash when he ravaged Pahokee. He considered it his right as an elevated person from a more advanced part of the nation. We are seen as droopy eyed morons that need to be guided and taught.

So many generations of them have had these ideas about Southerners fed to them from the day they were born by their Archie Bunkeresque parents who are just as ill-informed as their parents before them were.

10/10

Spoken like someone who has actually traveled and/or lived outside of the South.

You are right.
 
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