🏈 Our front seven vs their front 5?

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I know that we have arguably the best front seven in the FBS. Can someone on the board with knowledge of the pigs O-line break down the individual matchups.

I think that this week moreso than most it is going to make a huge difference in the outcome of the game. If we can put Mallet on his back a few times early I think that we will win very impressively. Conversely, If he has time he will make it more difficult.

Mind you I am not worried about the overall outcome of the game just curious to have another opinion of the matchups in the trenches.

Thanks
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I'll go ahead and tell you, it won't be our front 7 against their front 5. They are going to spread us out early and often to get the linebackers off the field. I think we'll play in nickel or dime for at least 85% of the game.

Petrino is smart and will keep our linebackers off the field as much as possible. IF we are going to attempt to pressure him, we'll have to go hard and fast. Mallet is great with the deep ball and if we blitz and can't get to him, he'll likely have at least one receiver in man coverage.

Everything about Petrino and his offensive game planning tells me he'll try to keep Hightower off the field with 4 wide sets, and he'll go after #24 as many times as possible.

I know, I know, that isn't exactly what you asked for, but it's what I got. :nana:
 
i think you're right on, Augustide. if we can't get past their line and get to the QB before he has time to get to his 3rd option on his reads, we're in for a nailbiter. if i had to pick a spot on the offense or defense that may be a touch on the weakside, it's the secondary. the will be tested on saturday. i said before the year started that the test for this year's Tide would be a great passing team. I stand by that. Arkansas has as good or better chance of beating us than any team we'll face until Florida.
 
Some combination of Anders, Hightower, and Ro will be on the field no matter what defense we play. DH and/or EA will be at rush positions when we go dime.

Just a rant/note, everybody keeps bringing up how bad 24 is. Well, if you review the SECCG film from last year he had good coverage, it's just Tebow's throws were excellent. That's not my opinion, it's Saban's opinion. The Sugar Bowl was a total defensive meltdown and there were enough mistakes to go around. (It has been speculated our former D Cor. was mentally in Clemson.) The coverage busts we've had this year have been more defensive busts than one player screwing up. For example, VT's two big plays: the long pass (one side of the field played the wrong coverage because they missed the call, which our coaches view as inexcusable. Barron and MA were both wrong). On the long run: the D-line misread a key and slanted the wrong way thereby opening a huge hole. Sure, MA has made mistakes, but so has every other player on our defense. Keep in mind we are attacking Spread teams differently than in the past and everybody is still learning. The FIU and NT games were great teaching cases for our coaches to get the guys ready for the rest of the schedule.

Finally, many think one player will get us beat by Arky. Well, if that happens we have no business being in the top 10. The defense is more than #24.

I'm done, sorry.
 
usn92 said:
Some combination of Anders, Hightower, and Ro will be on the field no matter what defense we play. DH and/or EA will be at rush positions when we go dime.

Just a rant/note, everybody keeps bringing up how bad 24 is. Well, if you review the SECCG film from last year he had good coverage, it's just Tebow's throws were excellent. That's not my opinion, it's Saban's opinion. The Sugar Bowl was a total defensive meltdown and there were enough mistakes to go around. (It has been speculated our former D Cor. was mentally in Clemson.) The coverage busts we've had this year have been more defensive busts than one player screwing up. For example, VT's two big plays: the long pass (one side of the field played the wrong coverage because they missed the call, which our coaches view as inexcusable. Barron and MA were both wrong). On the long run: the D-line misread a key and slanted the wrong way thereby opening a huge hole. Sure, MA has made mistakes, but so has every other player on our defense. Keep in mind we are attacking Spread teams differently than in the past and everybody is still learning. The FIU and NT games were great teaching cases for our coaches to get the guys ready for the rest of the schedule.

Finally, many think one player will get us beat by Arky. Well, if that happens we have no business being in the top 10. The defense is more than #24.

I'm done, sorry.
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Don't apologize for a solid post. Keep em coming.
 
In a few threads over the off-season, you've seen a few of us talk about our speed front versus our normal defensive front. By speed front, I'm talking about players like Dareus playing inside as much as the end position, guys like Washington, Deaderick, Anders, etc. on the defensive line.

I mention that in this light...

If you look across the line at Arkansas, the line looks like one built to support a running team more so than a passing team. In other words, a lot of size, but not as much agility as you see...say on our offensive line.

Last year, they were horrible in pass protection. I can't recall the exact number (I want to say 46) of sacks they gave up last year but they do seem to be getting better this season. They've only allowed two sacks in two games. Now, Georgia isn't setting the league on fire for sacks either.

So, it really is a question that is up in the air right now. Has Arkansas improved in their pass protection that much or is Georgia and Missouri St. that poor when it comes to a pass rush—resulting in a sack.

If this was simply a rushing offense vs a rushing defense, I wouldn't be worried a lot, but I also wouldn't hesitate to say Arkansas will get their yards. BUT, so far this season, that's not the case. 80% of their offense is from the passing game.

I truly believe we'll focus on a speed approach on their offensive line.

And, I also truly believe it'll be their game plan to have as many three to five step drops as possible.

Honestly, and we'll also call this "last but not least," I don't see the match-up in this game found between the two lines as this game kicks off. Later on, it will come in to play.

I don't see this match-up coming deep in our secondary. I think they are going to try to attack those intermediate routes.

OH, unlike Jdpas, I don't see this as a nail-biter either.
 
usn92 said:
Some combination of Anders, Hightower, and Ro will be on the field no matter what defense we play. DH and/or EA will be at rush positions when we go dime.

Just a rant/note, everybody keeps bringing up how bad 24 is. Well, if you review the SECCG film from last year he had good coverage, it's just Tebow's throws were excellent. That's not my opinion, it's Saban's opinion. The Sugar Bowl was a total defensive meltdown and there were enough mistakes to go around. (It has been speculated our former D Cor. was mentally in Clemson.) The coverage busts we've had this year have been more defensive busts than one player screwing up. For example, VT's two big plays: the long pass (one side of the field played the wrong coverage because they missed the call, which our coaches view as inexcusable. Barron and MA were both wrong). On the long run: the D-line misread a key and slanted the wrong way thereby opening a huge hole. Sure, MA has made mistakes, but so has every other player on our defense. Keep in mind we are attacking Spread teams differently than in the past and everybody is still learning. The FIU and NT games were great teaching cases for our coaches to get the guys ready for the rest of the schedule.

Finally, many think one player will get us beat by Arky. Well, if that happens we have no business being in the top 10. The defense is more than #24.

I'm done, sorry.
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Have not seen anyone rant on how bad he is, BUT he has blown coverage in every game so far dating back to Florida.
That is cause for concern and coaches see that in film. Even North Texas was throwing his way most of the game.
The defense is more than 24 but all it takes is one person to miss an assignment in the secondary and it is usually a TD. #4 was out of place several times in the VT game but that was really his first start.
24 has played some good games do not get me wrong but he has been the reason for concern in the secondary.
 
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usn92 said:
Some combination of Anders, Hightower, and Ro will be on the field no matter what defense we play. DH and/or EA will be at rush positions when we go dime.

Just a rant/note, everybody keeps bringing up how bad 24 is. Well, if you review the SECCG film from last year he had good coverage, it's just Tebow's throws were excellent. That's not my opinion, it's Saban's opinion. The Sugar Bowl was a total defensive meltdown and there were enough mistakes to go around. (It has been speculated our former D Cor. was mentally in Clemson.) The coverage busts we've had this year have been more defensive busts than one player screwing up. For example, VT's two big plays: the long pass (one side of the field played the wrong coverage because they missed the call, which our coaches view as inexcusable. Barron and MA were both wrong). On the long run: the D-line misread a key and slanted the wrong way thereby opening a huge hole. Sure, MA has made mistakes, but so has every other player on our defense. Keep in mind we are attacking Spread teams differently than in the past and everybody is still learning. The FIU and NT games were great teaching cases for our coaches to get the guys ready for the rest of the schedule.

I'm done, sorry.
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I'm not sure who MA is? My comment about #24 has nothing to do with whether or not I think he's a good player. My comment is based more on who gets picked on the most in our secondary. Go back and break down the games. He's been tested more often than any other defensive back out our team.

When we blitz Saturday out of a nickel or dime package, more times than not, #24 and #3 are going to be in man coverage. As a coach or quarterback in that situation, which cornerback would you throw at?

Finally, many think one player will get us beat by Arky. Well, if that happens we have no business being in the top 10. The defense is more than #24.
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Who have you seen make that comment? I haven't seen one poster on this board saying we'll get beat Saturday. At the very most, I can see Arky hitting a handful of big plays. Of course, with Mallet throwing the ball 40+ times, a few big plays are almost a certainty. Still won't be enough to win.
 
He has the chance to be an excellent back from what I hear. Was just wondering about the RS. Thank you all for the replies even if it was a jack.

I just asked Terry 'cause I knew he was lurking.
 

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