🏈 OT: IF you're Louisville, do you give Petrino another chance? Mods on Louisville sites are suggesti

[Swamptick]

Sorry. I overlooked the other thread. Mea culpa.

 

[TerryP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Save it with the talk abt how this is a &quot;second chance&quot; for Bobby Petrino. His rep as a world class creep came from yrs of bad behavior.</p>&mdash; Bruce Feldman (@BFeldmanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/statuses/420979148228538368">January 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[planomateo]

If I'm Texas, everything the Louisville AD said about Strong is voided after hiring Petrino.

 

[LauraWoman]

I actually don't understand all that continued hate for Bobby Petrino. Did he do wrong in the past? Yes. Did he, as you have said, screw over many teams in the past. Yes, he did. However, everybody deserves another chance.

Petrino has been a model coach since his indiscretion at Arkansas. Say what you will about his past history, but he is a good coach. I think it's been enough years, and he's done the time. He deserves another chance.

How would you feel if Petrino had been the Longhorns' hire?

 

[TerryP]

If I'm Texas, everything the Louisville AD said about Strong is voided after hiring Petrino.

Interesting you bring this up.

When this first started circulating my first thought went back to everything Strong had said about Jurich last year when his name was being linked to a few openings.

Another thought crossed my mind as well on Jurich.

If we were to have taken a poll 48-72 hours ago and asked collegiate sports writers who they thought were the best Athletic Directors in the NCAA I've no doubt Jurich would have been high on their list. After seeing the reactions of these same guys I don't think the results would be near the same.

On a slightly different note:

Herbie garnered another degree of respect from me last night. When asked, his reaction to the hire was "gutsy move." {sic} He definitely took the high road when compared to the reactions and comments from others.

 

[TerryP]

I finished looking over this forum, jumped over to the Today's News forum to clean out articles over 24 hrs old and ran across this tweet.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>In April, the world college athletics was calling Jurich the best AD in America. Today, they are calling him a renegade.</p>&mdash; Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWolken/statuses/421168467782291456">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[planomateo]

Does he repeat this phrase in a few years.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Bobby Petrino on <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Louisville&amp;src=hash">#Louisville</a>: &quot;I want everyone here to know this is my destination job.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bruce Feldman (@BFeldmanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/statuses/421312015127162880">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[MunchyOs]

Petrino has literally come full circle back to Louisville. He left there after the 2006 season to take the Atlanta Falcons job for a season, travelling in clockwise direction. Then, be bolted for Arkansas, heading west in the same circular motion. Then, it was back to the state of Kentucky for the WKU job. Now, he's back at Louisville. So, geographically, he literally traveled in a circle!

 

[bama alum]

The term dumpster fire has been used a bit here lately. I can't think of a better example than UAB where McGee is leaving as HC to be Petrino's OC.

But is that really a demotion??

 

[rammerjammer]

Bama Alum, there has never been a more fitting term. I have said for years that UAB needs to dump football and focus on basketball. They could use the money (salary) and hire/keep a good coach.

I remember back when Jimbo was leaving to LSU to go to FSU as the coach in waiting/OC. He interviewed for the HC job at UAB and wanted it. (Would have taken it). The trustees would not allow UAB to hire Jimbo because hell will thaw out from freezing over before they allow UAB to have a better football program than UA.

Remember all that transpired during the end of Shula's reign. We were a 1/10 the program that we are now.

 

[TerryP]

Does this strike you as the "dumbass statement of the year?" Or, is she saying she knew about Jessica Dorrell? And knew about what he was going to do in Jacksonville...and Louisville RD. 1, and ATL, and Arkansas...

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Jurich says talking to Petrino's wife convinced him he's a changed man. "You can't fool your wife. At least not after the first year."
— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) January 9, 2014​

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[TerryP]

The term dumpster fire has been used a bit here lately. I can't think of a better example than UAB where McGee is leaving as HC to be Petrino's OC.

But is that really a demotion??

It certainly goes to show just how bad of a job it is...

 

[Old Timer from TX]

How would you feel if Petrino had been the Longhorns' hire?

I believe in forgiveness. I believe that people who have done wrong deserve another chance if they repent and are genuinely remorseful. So, the question of how I would feel had Petrino been the Horns' hire. Frankly, I wouldn't have a problem with it. That's just my opinion. Petrino did apologize and he publicly stated after the Arkansas debacle that the incident did make him re-evaluate his life and where he had erred. He said that he was going to be a changed man. And he had lived up to that promise in the short time that he was at Western Kentucky.

How long does a man have to be punished for his misdeeds? Is he forever to be punished and never return to righteousness if he has sinned before?

 

[TerryP]

I believe in forgiveness. I believe that people who have done wrong deserve another chance if they repent and are genuinely remorseful. So, the question of how I would feel had Petrino been the Horns' hire. Frankly, I wouldn't have a problem with it. That's just my opinion. Petrino did apologize and he publicly stated after the Arkansas debacle that the incident did make him re-evaluate his life and where he had erred. He said that he was going to be a changed man. And he had lived up to that promise in the short time that he was at Western Kentucky.

How long does a man have to be punished for his misdeeds? Is he forever to be punished and never return to righteousness if he has sinned before?

It's not like he just screwed up at Arkansas. He's shown what type of person he is time, and time, and time again.

I'm sure you've heard the expression "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..."

At what point do you say, "nope, ain't happening again."

 

[ElephantStomp]

Petrino is a good coach, but I would have Shula again than have him as our coach

 

[TerryP]

Petrino is a good coach, but I would have Shula again than have him as our coach

Good play caller, good offensive coordinator. But he's not a good head coach.

I'm still of the same opinion on him as I was when Arkansas hired him. Football consists of offense, defense, and special teams. Just because you're good at one doesn't make you a good coach.

When you stink at one what does that make you?

 

[bama alum]

Good play caller, good offensive coordinator. But he's not a good head coach.

I'm still of the same opinion on him as I was when Arkansas hired him. Football consists of offense, defense, and special teams. Just because you're good at one doesn't make you a good coach.

When you stink at one what does that make you?

Gene Chizik?

 

[TerryP]

Gene Chizik?

 

[Old Timer from TX]

It's not like he just screwed up at Arkansas. He's shown what type of person he is time, and time, and time again.

I'm sure you've heard the expression "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..."

At what point do you say, "nope, ain't happening again."

At at what point? Well, I suppose it's on a case by case basis.

I've been in a situation before when a close family member stole a lot of money from my family and a lot from me. He was kinda outcast for several years. He cleaned up his act. When he came back into the family's good graces, and after I forgave him he did it again. This time taking my credit cards and racking up thousands of dollars in purchases. I was angry that I gave him another chance and it happened again. I was the fool. I was the one with egg on my face. It could be argued that I was dumb in forgiving. I wouldn't have done it any other way.

 

[TerryP]

At at what point? Well, I suppose it's on a case by case basis.

I've been in a situation before when a close family member stole a lot of money from my family and a lot from me. He was kinda outcast for several years. He cleaned up his act. When he came back into the family's good graces, and after I forgave him he did it again. This time taking my credit cards and racking up thousands of dollars in purchases. I was angry that I gave him another chance and it happened again. I was the fool. I was the one with egg on my face. It could be argued that I was dumb in forgiving. I wouldn't have done it any other way.

I commend you for having a forgiving spirit for a family member. Note, family member.

I fail to see how the analogy fits when we're talking about a business situation versus a family situation.

My view on Petrino has changed over the years. It was his time at Arkansas that sealed the deal with me. It was not the point he had an affair. (though that does weigh heavily.) My issue with Petrino and his time at Arkansas was the financial liability he put the school through. They, UArk, were a hair away from a lawsuit where dozens of applicants could have, and in my opinion should have, brought a suit against the school when he hired Dorrell instead of more qualified applicants.

The way Petrino has left jobs demonstrates what I can only term as a devious type of personality. When he had an affair that spoke to his moral character. When he put the University of Arkansas in a position where they could have faced numerous lawsuits? That speaks to his total disregard for the well being of others.

Let's assume you're a business owner and you're interviewing for an open position in your company. You find out, through the vetting process, that one of your prospects has basically willfully ignored his former company's policy, hired a mistress which goes against employment regulations, paid off said mistress, and lied to his former boss...are you suggesting you're going to just forgive, forget, and move forward?

(As to his affair, I've grown to learn if a man, or woman, does step out on their spouse they are just as likely to steal, lie, cheat, you name it. The affair itself would have been enough for me to fire him. However, in today's age, I realize my moral compass points differently than a lot.)