🏈 Oklahoma assistant coach Cale Gundy takes shot at Nick Saban, then apologizes, deletes tweet (photo)

[BAMANEWSBOT]

"Looks like someone came up short again. You better take that SEC country somewhere else. Let's Play Faster."



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[TerryP]

Here's a thought, or question, that we'll never get an answer for...though we can speculate.

When USC, under Carroll, were in their last run they won over 80% of their games between 2001-2009.

Social media, as we know it today, didn't exist. Facebook launched in 2004. Twitter launched two years later. Both of these two outlets launched with specific groups in mind but later found a world-wide audience. Their impact really wasn't relevant during his era. (One could argue facebook might have considering it almost tripled in size Carroll's last season.)

If the success the Trojans had a decade ago happened with both social media sites enjoying the success they are having today would we see the same type of actions by coaches against Carroll as we see towards Saban? Or, is this a case where we're seeing a change in the "character" of today's coaches...a change that's just happened over the last decade?

Did they have these feelings against the Trojans but didn't have a platform to voice them from?

I'll admit...I find myself shaking my head at some of the comments I see from guys I expect a degree of professionalism.

 

[TerryP]

To add a couple of more thoughts here:

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Love the smack talk between OU-Bama. Given how the Sugar went, Tide must take its medicine. But I wonder how Sooners handle their own hype.</p>&mdash; Alex Scarborough (@AlexS_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexS_ESPN/statuses/443590574906810368">March 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>And just like that an apology from @OUCoachGundy. This is CFB, where having personality is somehow a bad thing. <a href="https://t.co/xTiq5LZ7mF">https://t.co/xTiq5LZ7mF</a></p>&mdash; Alex Scarborough (@AlexS_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexS_ESPN/statuses/443592736487522304">March 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Putting a different perspective on this. What would Alex think if he was tempted to take a shot at Brando? It wasn't professional to do so to one of his peers?

 

[PhillyGirl]

Is this the year of taking shots at Nick Saban? Must be nice to be the alpha dog.

 

[bamaraider]

I love the hate Alabama is getting this off-season. So much better than everyone riding you into the off-season and hyping you up.

No reason to apologize Cale Gundy. Just keep running your mouth and feeding the beast. You beat us, congrats. Please be like Utah and play Sweet Home Alabama in your practices now.

 

[planomateo]

His RB's didn't even break 100 yds rushing (81). Yeah, I'd be running my mouth.

Reminds me of his brother.

 

[RollTideRandy]

Reminds me of his brother.

Oh, you can make fun of him all you want...he can handle it! He's a MAN!​ He's 40!

 

[RollTideRandy]

The stupidity in the comment is why would a well-respected assistant coach with a reputation as a good recruiter, take a shot at a head coach with a reputation of hiring well respected, solid recruiting assistant coaches and getting them raises and promotions? Not a good career move to say the least.

 

[TheChief]

They're cute at that age, aren't they.

 

[CrimsonPirate]

They loved us in the years before Saban arrived, didn't they? To paraphrase Mark Twain, success breeds contempt.

 

[rick4bama]

Hoof and mouth disease.

 

[sean]

better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

and while i never thought the man to be a fool (to be honest, i never even knew who he is or ever heard his name before today), it was foolish for him to say something such as he did.

players say foolish things.....some(most)times because they are young. i said my share of very foolish things when i was younger so i speak from experience.

but coaches.....coaches are supposed to be older, more mature, and have more of a thought process of what they want to say before they open their mouths (or use their keyboards, as it were).

since Coach Saban was hired back in 2007 i have never.....NEVER.....heard of or read where he has apologized about something he said. why? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SAY OR POST FOOLISH THINGS. he says what he says and he stands behind it 100%.....no regrets.

in my opinion, THAT is a leader.....THAT is a coach.....THAT is post-worthy; not the drivel that seems to come out of the mouths of the coaches from other programs.

RMFT!!!!!

 

[riz]

Here's a thought, or question, that we'll never get an answer for...though we can speculate.

When USC, under Carroll, were in their last run they won over 80% of their games between 2001-2009.

Social media, as we know it today, didn't exist. Facebook launched in 2004. Twitter launched two years later. Both of these two outlets launched with specific groups in mind but later found a world-wide audience. Their impact really wasn't relevant during his era. (One could argue facebook might have considering it almost tripled in size Carroll's last season.)

If the success the Trojans had a decade ago happened with both social media sites enjoying the success they are having today would we see the same type of actions by coaches against Carroll as we see towards Saban? Or, is this a case where we're seeing a change in the "character" of today's coaches...a change that's just happened over the last decade?

Did they have these feelings against the Trojans but didn't have a platform to voice them from?

I'll admit...I find myself shaking my head at some of the comments I see from guys I expect a degree of professionalism.

Don't know, but it goes back to that anonymity deal we were talking about before. The guy just said what he honestly feels, and he's gotta take the heat for it. I'd wager 100% of the coaches have similar thoughts, but just don't put them out there. Does that make them better people? Hell naw, man.

 

[sean]

Don't know, but it goes back to that anonymity deal we were talking about before. The guy just said what he honestly feels, and he's gotta take the heat for it. I'd wager 100% of the coaches have similar thoughts, but just don't put them out there. Does that make them better people? Hell naw, man.

i can agree with that.

but the thing is, he retracted/deleted the statement then apologized for it.

i say man up. if you make a statement, stand behind it and own it. don't delete it like a little b!tch then apologize and act like you didn't mean it. on the internet the only way to not have something be out there is to not post it in the first place. no matter how quick you think you are in deleting something, there is always somebody quicker who will re-tweet, re-post or forward it for it to not be seen or read by many, many people.

 

[c5vetman]

since Coach Saban was hired back in 2007 i have never.....NEVER.....heard of or read where he has apologized about something he said. why? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SAY OR POST FOOLISH THINGS. he says what he says and he stands behind it 100%.....no regrets.

not to start anything, but I think the whole "coon ass" remark was one of those where he had to apologize for what he said, but he said it privately to someone, not to a reporter

 

[Southern Bama]

Its comical that we lose the Sugar Bowl yet so many feel obligated to still take their shots at a Coach that has never ( to my knowledge made personal attacks on other coaches ). They know who is still on top.

 

[TerryP]

Its comical that we lose the Sugar Bowl yet so many feel obligated to still take their shots at a Coach that has never ( to my knowledge made personal attacks on other coaches ). They know who is still on top.

It wasn't started with the loss in the Sugar. If you recall, we're a year or two removed from guys making comments like this BUT they were being made in meetings with booster groups.

Now, we're seeing it more in public venues/avenues/outlets like Twitter. That has followed the Sugar, yes. But, it seems it was sparked more after the AFCA meetings where the 10 second legislation was proposed. And, it's coming from that group of coaches: Gundy, Kingsbury, et al.

I saw a tweet by John Infante this morning I thought summed this up pretty well:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I hope someone is saving the gloating from HUNH coaches for a Daily Show-style clip montage when the tables are turned in a year, maybe two.</p>&mdash; John Infante (@John_Infante) <a href="https://twitter.com/John_Infante/statuses/443588470980616192">March 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[sean]

not to start anything, but I think the whole "coon ass" remark was one of those where he had to apologize for what he said, but he said it privately to someone, not to a reporter

no worries.

to be honest, i'd forgotten all about that; so thanks for correcting me (seriously).

 

[TerryP]

i say man up. if you make a statement, stand behind it and own it. don't delete it like a little b!tch then apologize and act like you didn't mean it. on the internet the only way to not have something be out there is to not post it in the first place. no matter how quick you think you are in deleting something, there is always somebody quicker who will re-tweet, re-post or forward it for it to not be seen or read by many, many people.

Perhaps I'm a little "old school" when I expect coaches to maintain a degree of professionalism no matter where they are or what they are doing. Yet, Gundy is within five years of my age which leaves me thinking that's not asking too much.

After a day or two weighing differing opinions (my own) I'm left with a few thoughts:

It's a weird analogy, but I can't help but picture someones "toy dog" that just yaps and yaps and as soon as you walk up it runs behind something—then yaps and yaps, then runs again.

I don't think they should open their mouth in the first place. But I can't agree with you more. IF you are going to say it (and the chances that you believe what you're saying are high) stand up and own the damn thing.

I think about OU and the point they've underachieved so often and so spectacularly lately. I suppose I should have expected something like this. The Sugar was a big win for that program. With the 10-second proposal being shelved some view this as a win. Combine both and it's fertile ground for them to find something to hang their hat on...sad thing is, you'd think they'd just won a championship.

That thought leads me to this thought. When will Gundy have an opportunity to talk smack again?

In the end I try to put this in perspective and ask this question (to both AU fans talking "we're going faster" and OU fans beating their wagon drums.)

Let's assume you lost one of your leaders on defense in the secondary. Let's assume you had a rotation due to injury, etc., at one of your cornerback slots. The other cornerback slot? Playing injured all season.

On offense, let's assume your leading receiver is playing hurt all year. Let's also assume your best interior offensive lineman isn't playing in the Sugar.

Let's combine all of that with off-the-field distractions (like HaHa, the rumors about Fluker, etc.)

Where are you January 1st? Are you in the Sugar Bowl? Is Auburn in the SECCG?

 

[planomateo]

Why give someone who's been a RB coach since 2005 any attention is what I can't help but wonder. I'll also say this, if Gundy is saying this, this leads me to believe he's giving some insight into the OU coaching staff's mindset. We heard Stoops whine about the SEC last year and we heard him say some things this year post Sugar Bowl, I'm sure Big-XII media days there will be more diarrhea of the mouth.