🏈 Ok so what are the best case scenarios for the rest of the season?

[Southern Bama]

Cody Mandell is the punter.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/08/alabamas_projected_starting_li.html

Thanks....dunno why I was thinkin Williams.

 

[Duder]

I stand corrected--it appears under the SEC tiebreaker, if Arky beats LSU Bama would win the tiebreaker and still go to Atlanta

I was analyzing everything last night and I was wondering who would win a three-way tie between Arkansas, Bama, and LSU. LSU beat Bama, but lost to Arkansas, and Arkansas lost to Bama. Seems like a huge tie. So how does Bama come out ahead? Not questioning it but I'd just like to know!

This is what we should look for two weeks from now. Arkansas needs to beat LSU and we're right back in the thick of things… as long as we win out.
Of course, Stanford losing to Oregon and/or OKSt losing to OU would probably put us ahead at 2 even if LSU is still 1st…

But sure, a Sugar Bowl against Boise is fine with me. We could finally show them a real SEC team.

Three or more-team procedure
(Once the tie has been reduced to two teams, go to the two-team tie-breaker format.)

*Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams.

*Record of the tied teams within the division.

*Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last.

*Overall record vs. non-division teams.

*Combined record vs. all common non-divisional teams.

*Record vs. common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.

*The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.

 

[TerryP]

Doubtful of course, but if lsu, stanford, and ok st lose. It could absolutely be OU/Bama in the top two spots. I know that has been my wish for this season. :td:

I doubt that's happening.

I don't see a team deserving to play in the NC if they didn't win the conference, let alone their division.

IF we win out and you win out, LSU loses to Arkansas, LSU is the team in ATL. They'd have to lose twice to fall below OU as I see it. And that I don't see happening.

FWIW, if we end up winning out I don't see OU jumping us in the polls either...

 

[bamatommy]

Thanks....dunno why I was thinkin Williams.

You're welcome. :halo:

 

[DustyG]

There is no way that LSU loses to Arkansas and wins the west, unless Arkansas loses another game before playing them. If Arkansas, LSU, and Bama are all 1 loss teams, Bama would be the likely West Champ based on either being the highest BCS team in the division, or owning the head-to-head with the highest ranked BCS team in the division.

 

[UAgrad93]

There is no way that LSU loses to Arkansas and wins the west, unless Arkansas loses another game before playing them. If Arkansas, LSU, and Bama are all 1 loss teams, Bama would be the likely West Champ based on either being the highest BCS team in the division, or owning the head-to-head with the highest ranked BCS team in the division.

Problem with your thinking is this, how far would they drop LSU if they lost to Arky? Remember that the tie breaker goes is highest ranked BCS unless within five spots then its head-to-head. We win out and we would need LSU to drop to 7th at least. I hate to say this, but I don't see it happening.

 

[Southern Bama]

I doubt that's happening.

I don't see a team deserving to play in the NC if they didn't win the conference, let alone their division.

IF we win out and you win out, LSU loses to Arkansas, LSU is the team in ATL. They'd have to lose twice to fall below OU as I see it. And that I don't see happening.

FWIW, if we end up winning out I don't see OU jumping us in the polls either...

IF......Oklahoma State and Stanford both catch a loss.....and by some stretch Bama moves back to #2 in the BCS standings....is it not possible Bama could be put into the National Championship game even though we didnt win the division or conference ?

 

[DustyG]

We win out and we would need LSU to drop to 7th at least. I hate to say this, but I don't see it happening.

No, we would need LSU to drop below the 1 loss team that just beat them. I can't see a situation where if Arkansas beats LSU in Baton Rouge, Arkansas would be ranked lower in the BCS than LSU.

 

[UAgrad93]

No, we would need LSU to drop below the 1 loss team that just beat them. I can't see a situation where if Arkansas beats LSU in Baton Rouge, Arkansas would be ranked lower in the BCS than LSU.

They do it every week in the polls. If there is a 3 way tie, it goes to BCS ranking. Highest rank goes if the 2nd team ranked below them was beaten by us. If LSU , even with a loss stays above Arky and it is completely possible( strength of schedule), LSU needs to fall outside of 5 places below us. If they are within 5 or fewer, they would go to ATL due to head to head.

 

[JeronimoSooner]

How quickly you guys forget lsu played and beat Ohio st in the title game in what 06 or 07, I forget. I think 07 with 2 losses, and didn't even play in the SEC title game that year if I remember right.
Come on, you guys know some crazy s*** can happen any saturday now.

 

[CaptainTide]

How quickly you guys forget lsu played and beat Ohio st in the title game in what 06 or 07, I forget. I think 07 with 2 losses, and didn't even play in the SEC title game that year if I remember right.
Come on, you guys know some crazy s*** can happen any saturday now.

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/LouisianaState.htm

LSU had two losses in 2007 and their second loss came to Arkansas on the last week of their regular season. They still got into the SEC Championship game and then the BCS Championship.
If that doesn't mean something for us (Bama and OU) this year then I don't know what does!

Sure, circumstances were different but still. :a:

 

[DustyG]

There are still games to be played in the regular season and the Championship games. Anything can happen. We aren't out of anything yet.

 

[JeronimoSooner]

You're right Capt, I was wrong. I could've swore lsu didn't make the SEC title that year. Oh well. Still yet, there were a lot of teams falling out late for that to happen. If it did come down to OU/Bama for the 2 spot behind lsu, it would absolutely go to Bama. OU's loss to the texas tech hamburglars is a VERY bad loss. Its getting worse because tech is losing to everyone else. Bama would certainly be #2 in that scenario. If for some reason they did put OU ahead of Bama in that scenario, I will be the first to admit its a screw job, because they way OU played against tech, they do not deserve to play for a title. That was pathetic.

It would hurt OU I think, but ok st is at tech saturday. Usually a dangerous place for ok st. They lose there a lot.

 

[BamaDelta]

I am so glad I've never made nor formed an opinion on "only conference champions playing for the national title".:smile:

I think what I want is the same as what many of us want.... the best two teams in the country playing for the title. If that happens to be two teams from not only the same conference but the same division of the same conference then so be it. Gonna be hard to have two conference champions in that scenario.

 

[Hoos4Tide]

To go along with what others have said about whether Arky will be ranked where when/if they beat LSU, we all know it totally depends on how Arkansas beats LSU and even if they do beat them Arky has to move up to about 5 or 6 while LSU drops to 6 or 7 which I think we would all agree is as far as they could possibly drop if only for the computers, so honestly, our best bet it playing LSU again if we really want a NC bid

 

[TheChief]

If Bama somehow makes it to the title game, is it not tainted at this point? I think I'd rather see the Tide steam roll Boise. I know the scenario may not jive with how the rest of our fans feel, but the prospect of winning a championship in that manner makes me weary as I imagine the reaction of other fans saying that Alabama just "claimed" another title and how the team shouldn't have even been in the big game in the first place.

Do I think Bama is the better team on most days playing LSU this year? Yes. The question is does Bama deserve to be in the best game. If the system is designed for the two best teams to play in the championship game, okay. Let's do it again. I suppose it's happened in the NFL and other leagues with a playoff. However, if the game is designed as a matchup of teams who, simply due to their schedule strength and other arbitrary decisions, meet to play for the championship, I don't want to see Bama in the game.

Roll Tide. Let's win the rest and enjoy each win. I'll have no sour grapes either way.

 

[JeronimoSooner]

Ah, just cheer like a champ, beat everyone else on Bama's schedule and see where the dominos fall. Its all any of us can do. If you get there, beat'em. Best way to show Bama does deserve it. Thats our feeling in Norman. Just beat the hell out of the rest of them, and see what happens. I don't like sneaking into title games either, but its not the fans faults. I don't think OU should've been in the 2003 title game. They got destroyed in the conf title game. But it happens. Just enjoy it if Bama gets in.

 

[cartag]

Cade took the field only because, and only after the 11 Crimson Jerseys leaving the field failed to do their job.

When the Offense failes to score a single point given and entire game, blaming the kicker for failing on 3 snaps during regulation is as stupid as blaming the Kaboos for the train wreck.

Amen.

 

[bamalaw1983]

Best case scenario getting better all the time. Just need a little help from those Sooners and it wouldn't hurt if the Trojans squeaked by the Ducks. Caught a huge break with Boise St and Stanford both getting rolled. I can't decide if I want the flagship (Arkansas) to beat LSU or not. If I was sure we would get a rematch, I would rather Bama be the one to ruin their season. Might help get us to the SECCG and a chance for our seniors to get 4 more wins and finish their careers 49-6.

 

[jdpas29]

if by some miracle, arky rolls LSU... LSu still plays in the SEC title game because they're not going to drop enough places to give Bama a shot.

also... Okie state is not going to lose. i've watched these guys play and yes i know it's an interstate rivalry, but they're not losing.

my question is... does a one-loss LSu that beats a sorry georgia team in the SECCG go to the BCSNCG over Alabama with one loss but having not played in the SECCG?

the SEC main office should write UGA a note that in effect says "really?" at which point georgia will know that they're not playing in the SECCG. in fact no team from the east deserves to bring lsu or Bama water this year. so we get a rematch before the BCSNCG:shock: problem solved :cheers: