🏈 Not sure what Scab is trying to prove here

[18Champs]

Is he schlobbing Gus?

Scarbinsky:

Miles has accomplished more as a head coach in this league, which you would expect from someone who's been a head coach in this league as long as he has.

But compare the last three years, since Malzahn returned to Auburn as the boss, and the gap between the two men and their programs is virtually non-existent.

Since 2013, Miles is 27-11 overall and 14-10 in the SEC. Malzahn is 27-13 and 13-11.

Since 2013, in order, Miles has finished third, tied for fourth (with Malzahn) and tied for third in the SEC West. Malzahn has finished first, tied for fourth (with Miles) and seventh in the division.

Head to head, Miles leads Malzahn 2-1 with each coach defending his home turf in convincing fashion. LSU beat Auburn 35-21 in 2013 and 45-21 in 2015, both in Tiger Stadium. Auburn beat LSU 41-7 in 2014 in Jordan-Hare.

How have they done against each team's biggest rival, Alabama? Since 2013, Miles is 0-3 against Nick Saban, losing 38-17, 20-13 in overtime and 30-16. In all, Miles has lost five straight games to Saban.

Malzahn is 1-2 against Saban, winning 34-28 in their first meeting before losing 55-44 and 29-13.

Since 2013, Miles has not won or even played for a championship. Malzahn has won one SEC West title, one SEC championship and played for one BCS national championship, all in his first season.

 

[im4uainva]

I don't know what he is trying to impart. I do know this...between Miles and Malzahn...I'll take Les every time. And not even bend a blade of grass.

Roll Tide!

 

[Che Boludo]

We'll see where things stand in DEC.

I'd bet CLM is still gainfully employed in Baton Rouge, and Malzahn is interviewing for an ESPN gig with the Gus Bus towed to an Opelika shade tree mechanic's backyard awaiting repair and re-sale/potential salvaging.

 

[TerryP]

This article is out.
An article about the trees is featured on the front ESPN college football page.

PR machine is at work ...

 

[Trob]

This is the standard way aubies argue. They take the shortest amount of recent history necessary to support their point. "Since 2013"...who cares?

 

[TerryP]

They take the shortest amount of recent history necessary to support their point. "Since 2013"...who cares?

But what would be their argument here, Trob?

Is he schlobbing Gus?

Or, is he trying to point to the state of LSU under Miles?

IF it's Gus, using 2013 as a starting point of his comparison makes sense—it was his first year as AU's HC. What I don't understand is IF Scab is trying to build up Gus he's also pointing out the 6-10 conference record in 2014 and 2015. I don't think many need to be reminded of the staff turnover (jumping ship?) seen over the last few months.

Such an odd article. @15Champs Link this is you've still got it. I'm wondering about the context of that snippet you posted.

 

[94 Grad]

I think that shows Les falling back to earth more than it shows Gus taking off... a really weird thing to write. I'm not sure how to take it... if Alabama was in auburns situation and that article was written about us, I'd take it as an insult... but maybe Auburn's goals are really to be middle of the road.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

off-season histrionics.

 

[Che Boludo]

... a really weird thing to write. I'm not sure how to take it..

My thoughts, too. He is spinning a somewhat positive narrative of Gus being more or less on par CLM over last few years. However, he fails to mention the obvious, which is that the same period has been acknowledged as one of Les' worst in Baton Rouge. More to the point, it's been bad enough to bring CLM to the edge of being fired with a key difference being that Gus doesn't have the deeper positive track record behind his otherwise mediocre resume.

It could be taken a lot of different ways. In the end though, I think Scabs was simply cranking out an article to meet a deadline. I think we are all over thinking a subject that he clearly underthought.

 

[TerryP]

I think we are all over thinking a subject that he clearly underthought.

As to content, I'd agree.

As to motive? There's the rub.

 

[UAgrad93]

Scabs putting thought into an article AIN'T happening! Bham News is nothing more than puff paper for the Barners. Nothing but Barners running it now!
Let me add that Scabs is more or less trying to become the new Finebaum at the Bham News. Stirring the pot!

 

[AFF]

I think it's funny that in this obvious attempt to console Auburn fans with a Miles comparison. What's he going to do, compare Gus to Saban? Still, he plainly provides the evidence that should disturb their fan base more than console them. From 1st, to 4th to dead last in the SECW in only 3 years. You're going the wrong way Gus! I love how Scarbinsky just glossed over that because to call attention to it would run counter to his narrative.

Scarbinsky does nothing but stir the pot and routinely alienate one side in a feeble attempt to endear himself to the other. Then he does the same thing only switching sides. It's all about trying to get both sides to click, of course. But he's become so predictable and scripted that its really hard to take anything that he writes seriously.

 

[Trob]

But what would be their argument here, Trob?

Don't know, I didn't read the entire article because Scarbinsky. From the excerpt here it seemed as if he was trying to say Gus is as good as or better than Miles as a coach, based on an extremely short amount of time.

 

[TerryP]

Don't know, I didn't read the entire article because Scarbinsky. From the excerpt here it seemed as if he was trying to say Gus is as good as or better than Miles as a coach, based on an extremely short amount of time.

Damn. I'd hoped @15Champs would have linked the original article by now.

Without seeing the article and its context, I'm left with one conclusion (errr, make that guess.)

Dameyune said the other day the move to LSU wasn't a lateral move. I said the yesterday that there's a lack of content in Scarbinsky's article, but there's still motive.

It's my guess that this is an attempt of KS's to throw shade at Craig due to his statement. I'll see if I can find the original piece in a little while (unless someone feels gracious.)

 

[TerryP]

Here's the first part of the article:

Les Miles is a better football coach than Gus Malzahn, and it's not even close. Isn't that what Dameyune Craig really meant?

From his statement in an LSU press release to his introductory press conference in Baton Rouge to a radio interview on WNSP in Mobile, Craig sang the praises of his new boss, Miles.

Meanwhile, Craig said pretty much nothing about his old boss, Malzahn, and in doing so, the wide receivers coach who jumped from Auburn to LSU spoke volumes.

Only Craig himself knows exactly what he meant, but it's impossible to read and hear what he said and what he didn't say and interpret it any other way.

Miles >>> Malzahn.

On the surface, of course, Craig is correct. In his 11 years at LSU, Miles has built one of the better football programs in the SEC. Malzahn has been the head coach at Auburn for only three years, and after an incredible debut, his overall and conference record has declined each of the last two years.

~~And the closing paragraphs:

It remains to be seen whether Malzahn can endure in the toughest division in the toughest conference in college football as long as Miles has, but in eight more years on the job, Miles has only one more SEC title than Malzahn (2-1), one more national championship appearance (2-1) and one more national championship (1-0).

Throw in Malzahn's tenure as the Auburn offensive coordinator, and he matches Miles in each of those categories.

But offensive coordinator vs. head coach is apples and oranges. Put their records as competing SEC West head coaches side by side, and Malzahn actually has an edge because he's won a conference title and played for a national title in that time and Miles hasn't.

Maybe Craig's move will change things for the better in Baton Rouge, but an objective look at where both programs have been the last three years shows the grass hasn't been greener lately in Death Valley than on the Plains.

Not to mention, Auburn hasn't tried to fire Malzahn.
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[bama alum]

But what would be their argument here, Trob?

Or, is he trying to point to the state of LSU under Miles?

This is the point he was trying to make on The Zone the other night.

 

[TerryP]

This is the point he was trying to make on The Zone the other night.

Then he's backtracking.

His article was clearly aimed at Dameyune's move.

 

[bama alum]

Then he's backtracking.

His article was clearly aimed at Dameyune's move.

No surprise there

 

[planomateo]

LOL subject line, "This Week at Auiburn, Feb. 22"