🏈 NFL teams shying away from Alabama players? Hardly- Cecil Hurt

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For a college football program, the NFL Draft is what you make it.

If you look at it one way, the draft is simply a departure ceremony, albeit one with some very nice multimillion-dollar parting gifts for a fortunate few. Players who turn pro can’t do a thing on the field to help the alma mater win another game. Depending on the level of the program those stars are departing, they can leave an aching void. At the highest level, there is usually enough talent to replace the departed and move on.

That’s not the point of view that most programs take, though. A prominent draft presence, both in a single class and over a span of multiple years, is perhaps the most powerful part of a program’s recruiting portfolio. That doesn’t mean draft success (and subsequent pro success) is the only tool in a recruiting toolbox. There are other components — academics, geography, personal relationships.

But let’s be honest here. Elite prospects want to play in the NFL after their college career, three years or four, is over. They want to follow a proven path of success. For an obvious example, look at Alabama’s recent run of gifted young wide receivers. Does a Jerry Jeudy or Henry Ruggs want to be the next Julio Jones or Amari Cooper? Of course. Are next year’s top prospects likely to pay special attention to the program that has had the most first-round draft choices (by a substantial margin) over the past four years? Of course. Alabama is smart to use that fact, just as Michigan would be wise to market its achievement in having the most total draftees in 2017 with 11, just edging out Alabama’s 10.

This is ultimately a PR battle, though. The Crimson Tide’s rivals, detractors and those who seek clickbait aren’t simply going to sit back and concede the fact Alabama is annually producing top draft class after top draft class. Part of it is the inevitable thicket of “expectation confusion” that surrounds Nick Saban’s team. That is just another symptom of the silly idea that any season in which Alabama doesn’t finish as the national champion (or, in its most extreme version, the undefeated national champion) is somehow “underachievement.” The corollary notion is the Crimson Tide has so many great players, any year in which it doesn’t produce five of the top 10 picks is “a disappointment.”

One national talk-radio host (Colin Cowherd) even advocates the debunked notion that NFL teams shy away from Alabama players who, Cowherd contends, are overused in Tuscaloosa and have limited upside. If that were true, why would four teams use their first-round pick on Alabama players? Why wouldn’t you avoid them altogether? And is the same logic true for other schools? USC recruits well every year, yet had far less players drafted than Alabama, both in the first round and overall. That must mean NFL players think USC players are burnouts that should be avoided, right? I mean, shouldn’t the same logic apply? How about for Florida State? Oregon? NFL front offices must really be wary of those teams, right?

Of course not. It’s an argument that makes no sense. The draft status of a particular individual depends on myriad factors, ranging from a team’s needs to the individual personality of each player. Alabama has had some players whose NFL careers have fizzled, like Dee Milliner and Trent Richardson. They’ve also had plenty of success stories: Julio, Amari, Dont’a Hightower and more.

Here’s the fact: Twenty-seven different NFL franchises have picked Alabama players since Saban became the head coach. Nine Alabama players were chosen in the first three rounds this weekend. And there is no way to fit those numbers into a narrative where teams are “shying away” at all.

NFL teams shying away from Alabama players? Hardly | TideSports.com
 
Cowturd isone of the stupidest talking heads on tv...his anti trump tirade was enough to get anyone fired if it was about a liberal or minority...(my granson had it on that day)....just stupidity....but there are plenty of others....hear me Finebaum
 
Many an article were written with this narrative attached this draft. Good that Cecil had his say, it really is about numbers that are flocking to the NFL and the crimson stain that's leaving a nasty mark in college football. Sorry folks, this stain won't wash out.
 
Eh, it's all about how you frame the argument. If the main stat is that the Tider's are still getting drafted, he's absolutely right.

Question is - Are players draft status being de valued for playing at Alabama? But then you'd have to have a "standard" to test that against, which there really is none. It's become pretty clear that the draft guru's are generally off base.... In their defense, it's nearly impossible for a mock draft to be accurate because of the ever changing way franchises evaluate players and either draft by talent or need.

I'm pretty sure the Broncos are one of the few teams that just won't touch Alabama players. Seen it time and time again they will pass in favor of less talented guys.

I think there is legitimate concern for how healthy the Bama players come out of their final year. Knowing whether or not players will pan out if healthy is a crap shoot in itself... Let alone guys that don't pass medical evaluations before ever playing a down.

My Conclusion - NFL GM's don't de value Alabama players... They de value hurt players. Alabama happens to send a lot of them into the draft. Allen & Foster are perfect examples of elite prospects that aren't healthy. Meanwhile Marlon Humphrey was a lesser player/producer and went early. I guess that's how I see it.
 
I'm pretty sure the Broncos are one of the few teams that just won't touch Alabama players. Seen it time and time again they will pass in favor of less talented guys.

You must be talking about since the Nick Saban era and taken in the draft only. Evan Mathis was recently on their super bowl run. Bobby Humphry was a #1 pick in the supplemental draft and made all pro. Ahmaad Gallaway and Triandos Luke were also picked.
 
You must be talking about since the Nick Saban era and taken in the draft only. Evan Mathis was recently on their super bowl run. Bobby Humphry was a #1 pick in the supplemental draft and made all pro. Ahmaad Gallaway and Triandos Luke were also picked.

Yeah dude... I'm talking since Elway. You're going back to ancient history with Humphrey, and Evan Mathis was a 3 month band aid.
 
There are so many variables that we, as collective fan base, know nothing about.

First and foremost, what are the needs of the NFL team drafting said prospect? Not every team needs a stud DE or lock down corner, they may already have that player in place.
Secondly, the interviews and tests, etc. Not every player is made to "jive" with every team. Think of it like recruiting. CNS says when a player commits to Bama, they have already bought into the "process" to an extent. Personalities may not work
 
Pittsburg doesn't go out of their way either. But I doubt seriously that it's just a blatant attempt to avoid Bama players.

I've been a Steelers fan since I was a little kid. I watch the draft every year to see if hell freezes over and Tomlin will look at a Bama player. Still toasty warm down there. Tomlin, who couldn't draft his way out of a paper bag, has passed over so many Bama players. I don't care for any other teams in the NFL, so as long as this dip$hit is in charge of the Steelers, I get closer and closer to just not giving a damn about the NFL. I'll keep up with how Bama players are doing, and that's about it.
 
Chris Carter has been beating this drum for a couple of weeks. Says Saban gets the most possible out of his kids, pushes them to the limits, works them harder than anyone else in practices. And then there are very few examples of positive surprises when they enter the pros. Several negative surprises but seldom a guy that turns out to be very good that wasn't a household name during college. Says our guys have a history of getting really beat up and have lots of medical procedures per capita. So he thinks many of our guys come is already at their pinnacle and often with a nice medical folder resume.

I don't buy it all, but he may work a point or 2 in there. I think he has a little grudge going back to Jr... but he does say in the same breaths that Saban may be the best college coach there is. Gives him credit for that at least.
 
Only credibility I would or could give these sentiments is that our guys have basically played 3-4 NFL seasons as 18-21 year olds because we have played more games than anyone else since the inception of the playoffs. Our guys have been exposed to more.
 
I'm pretty sure the Broncos are one of the few teams that just won't touch Alabama players. Seen it time and time again they will pass in favor of less talented guys.

You must be talking about since the Nick Saban era and taken in the draft only.

Over the weekend I saw there were five teams in the NFL who haven't drafted a Bama player in the "Saban era;" Carolina, Denver, Dallas, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh. Some of these have had "Saban era" players on their rosters like Carolina who picked up Lester as a UDFA. I'm sure there are a few cases like that with the other four teams. I'm thinking Chance Warmack is in Philly now, isn't he? He was another UDFA as I recall.
 
Over the weekend I saw there were five teams in the NFL who haven't drafted a Bama player in the "Saban era" Carolina, Denver, Dallas, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh. Some of these have had "Saban era" players on their rosters like Carolina who picked up Lester as a UDFA. I'm sure there are a few cases like that with the other four teams. I'm thinking Chance Warmack is in Philly now, isn't he? He was another UDFA as I recall.


Yep, and McClain at Dallas, which seems very much like history.
 
Over the weekend I saw there were five teams in the NFL who haven't drafted a Bama player in the "Saban era;" Carolina, Denver, Dallas, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh. Some of these have had "Saban era" players on their rosters like Carolina who picked up Lester as a UDFA. I'm sure there are a few cases like that with the other four teams. I'm thinking Chance Warmack is in Philly now, isn't he? He was another UDFA as I recall.

Terry you surprise me - are you saying Warmack was a UDFA???!!! He was drafted in the FIRST round, #10, 2013.
 
Terry you surprise me - are you saying Warmack was a UDFA???!!! He was drafted in the FIRST round, #10, 2013.
That's called the phone thinking its smarter than I am (may be some truth there) ... editing to add something in, and not cleaning it up while, literally, watching paint dry.

If the speech to text doesn't bite me in the ass ... this does. I'm not going to go back and edit it. I'd likely screw it up even more with the wind kicking as it is today. Hell, I just told it to "Call Ace" and it called Jason.

Not my day today.
 

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