📡 New rules could alter how Alabama builds its staff and conducts its summer camps

[TerryP]

Nick Saban disagrees with proposed rule
“I don’t understand the spirit of the rule,” Saban said. “Don’t really know why we’re doing it. I really don’t. I think sometimes we pass rules and don’t really understand the consequences, and there’s a lot of unintended consequences, and you think you’re solving one problem, but really in reality you’re going to create 10 more. It’s bad for football, I think it’s bad for high school coaches.

“We had a high school coach here the other day, I’m not going to mention any names, and his son’s a prospect and he used to be a college coach. So now he can never go work at a college, can never work a camp, we can’t come speak at clinics. We just had over a thousand coaches here at a clinic and had a great camp, which is the way that I feel we serve the high school coaches and have a chance to give back to them for all that they do in terms of the hard work that they do in developing players, helping us be able to evaluate players, giving us information about their players. Guess we can’t do anything. I really, I don’t get it, and I don’t understand it.

“I guess we’ll have to try to staff our camps another way. We also have a little kids camp here, certainly not a recruiting camp. There’s not even any high school players in it, and we’re not even certain that we can have high school coaches work that camp. That might be under the same scrutiny that if they have any relationship with a prospect then they can’t work our camp. That’s the way I understand it, that’s the way our compliance understands it. I guess we’ll figure it out when the rule passes or whatever.

“I guess I’m just too old-fashioned. If people didn’t help me when I was coming up as a coach and visit with me, and help me grow and learn as a coach, I would never be in the position that I’m in, or have the success that we’ve been able to have, even when it was just being a position coach. So I guess it’s my respect for the profession and the paranoia that everybody has that somebody’s doing something because a high school coach comes and works your camp is pretty ridiculous, but it is what it is.”

The new rules and how their meaning(s) with camps.

 

[UAgrad93]

This rule and its' interpretation have been run through the ringer since it came out to the point I am confused. Is the rule..... No HS coaches can work any of the camps? or is it..... No HS coaches that have their players/prospects there can work the camps?

 

[Che Boludo]

Will this be the Harbaugh rule as he has 3 such hires associated with top prospects in last couple of years.

It's a stupid reactionary rule with no account for unintended consequences. Punish the masses to account for a few exceptions. I truly hate the NCAA.

 

[TerryP]

This rule and its' interpretation have been run through the ringer since it came out to the point I am confused. Is the rule..... No HS coaches can work any of the camps? or is it..... No HS coaches that have their players/prospects there can work the camps?

“In football, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position.”
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If I'm a junior in high school and you're my coach, even though I have no offer from Alabama, let's say I decide to camp there. I do well, get an offer, and join the team.

You would not be allowed to work a camp when I'm under your coaching as a junior and you couldn't work the camps until I became a junior in high school.

At least that's the way I'm reading this.

There are a TON of situations that fly in the face of common sense here.

 

[rammerjammer]

Shouldn't this be the Malzahn rule? If memory serves me correct that is how he got his big break with HDN and UofArk.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Isn't Antonio Carter (AC) suing Lane Kiffin over this kind of stuff? He's basically implying that one of his recruits went to FAU without him getting an agreed coaching position at the same school. This kind of thing is rocking the boat.

The NCAA often misses what it's aiming at, but the high school coaches in football and basketball that do get hired during their player's recruitment are blatantly obvious. What I don't think is remotely fair is that these coaches can't volunterily work the camps. Putting a retriction on hiring them on staff in a 4-year window would be plenty. Just seems like overkill.