🏀 "My sense is that one-and-done is not working for anyone." -- Adam Silver

[Tidestalker]

2 years would be tremendous for college hoops. Sucks for "young adults" that are held back in favor of.... I don't really know? So older players can fill up rosters and make checks for another year (I know NFL PA is in favor of this)? Not really sure... But March Madness would be special.

 

[TUSKtimes]

2 years would be tremendous for college hoops. Sucks for "young adults" that are held back in favor of.... I don't really know? So older players can fill up rosters and make checks for another year (I know NFL PA is in favor of this)? Not really sure... But March Madness would be special.

I take it that Adam Silver is saying that the numbers are not looking good for the one and done player. This may be true even for the lotto draft picks. In the short run it will cramp the style of the can't miss kid but how many are there compared to the actual number leaving school for the big payday?

We just went through a scare with Key. Why would anyone associated with Alabama's basketball program even remotely suggest to Key that he is NBA ready? I suspect that Silver is trying to get a lot of this type of talent and perhaps even potentially better talent to realize that the numbers are projecting a cold, cruel world for those who venture out too early.

 

[alabama mike]

For every LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett and lets go way back to Moses Malone and Darryl Dawkins, you have thousands of kids that have turned pro early and they do not make it to the NBA. The simple thing to do, if the NBA is serious is to only allow juniors and seniors to come out. I know you will have kids go overseas and play. The bottom line is that most high school kids and one year college players are not physically and mentally ready for the grind of an NBA season.

 

[Tidestalker]

I take it that Adam Silver is saying that the numbers are not looking good for the one and done player. This may be true even for the lotto draft picks. In the short run it will cramp the style of the can't miss kid but how many are there compared to the actual number leaving school for the big payday?

We just went through a scare with Key. Why would anyone associated with Alabama's basketball program even remotely suggest to Key that he is NBA ready? I suspect that Silver is trying to get a lot of this type of talent and perhaps even potentially better talent to realize that the numbers are projecting a cold, cruel world for those who venture out too early.

The $ that player is going to make in what would be his "soph" season is much more valuable than the extra year or school. To me, that's the # that matters.

To Adam Silver, he must be referring to the overall quality of the game. Which I could agree with. However, when the game is officiated the way it is, fans like myself find it hard to take seriously. I won't watch any regular season games outside of my local team... And the playoffs suck until the finals... Which has sucked also.

The 1 thing they do is brand and sell their stars... Which ironically, is a lot of 1 and done or less guys. Lebron, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Carmelo, Harden, Anthony Davis, John Wall, etc. (Not to say they wouldn't be stars with an extra year of college, barring injury).

I can't see the extra year making a big difference for the NBA because they're still only going to be 20, immature, and the game will still be officiated like a WWF wrestling event to hype the crowd. But it would make college hoops distinctly better. As usual I'm in favor of the players getting to make money when they want to... But sounds like the rule will be changing soon.

 

[BamaFan334]

There comes a point in time where the adults of this country need to stand up and fight for the future of this country and attempting to leave it in good hands. I do not consider an 18 year old a child anymore. We have them fighting for the freedoms of this country and the freedom of other countries, yet we want to coddle these pre-madonna dipshit athletes that have a Team Me attitude and don't care about their future or anyone else, only care about that quick buck. If they want to go overseas and play after one year or even after high school, let them! We need to set a higher standard in this country that we are setting these high school kids up for success, not just feeding them to the wolves and allowing the vultures to prey on what is left after the NBA and agents spit them out. Somewhere down the line this country will need the efforts of the newer generation and if they have not learned any skills, matured, or have any sense of humanity, then they will never produce and be another citizen on government support. It's more than a "let them follow their dream" deal, because the statistics show a MUCH higher failure rate than success rate. it's simply failing these kids coming out and the future of this country if you ask me. But when the Kardashians, TMZ, and shit like that run this country, maybe we're in too deep already.

 

[BamaFan334]

The $ that player is going to make in what would be his "soph" season is much more valuable than the extra year or school. To me, that's the # that matters.

To Adam Silver, he must be referring to the overall quality of the game. Which I could agree with. However, when the game is officiated the way it is, fans like myself find it hard to take seriously. I won't watch any regular season games outside of my local team... And the playoffs suck until the finals... Which has sucked also.

The 1 thing they do is brand and sell their stars... Which ironically, is a lot of 1 and done or less guys. Lebron, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Carmelo, Harden, Anthony Davis, John Wall, etc. (Not to say they wouldn't be stars with an extra year of college, barring injury).

I can't see the extra year making a big difference for the NBA because they're still only going to be 20, immature, and the game will still be officiated like a WWF wrestling event to hype the crowd. But it would make college hoops distinctly better. As usual I'm in favor of the players getting to make money when they want to... But sounds like the rule will be changing soon.

Do I need to bring up the statistic that shows how many athletes go through that "#" with nothing invested and nothing else to fall back on? Watch the 30 for 30 "Broke" and it just hints at the tip of the iceberg. What happens after that? You and I are left to foot the bill that these guys can no longer carry as many are left working broke down jobs and fall into the government's hands. I understand the whole "do what's best for you" thing, but it's not a sprint, it's a marathon, and it undoubtedly comes back on the American citizens after a while.

 

[Tidestalker]

Do I need to bring up the statistic that shows how many athletes go through that "#" with nothing invested and nothing else to fall back on? Watch the 30 for 30 "Broke" and it just hints at the tip of the iceberg. What happens after that? You and I are left to foot the bill that these guys can no longer carry as many are left working broke down jobs and fall into the government's hands. I understand the whole "do what's best for you" thing, but it's not a sprint, it's a marathon, and it undoubtedly comes back on the American citizens after a while.

Do you really think a guy is going to have a better non athletic career for going to school 2 years compared to 1? That's the only point I'm making... Got a lot better chance of not going broke if you can put 5-10 mill in the bank over getting a sophomore education and risking injury.

 

[alagator]

Got a lot better chance of not going broke if you can put 5-10 mill in the bank over getting a sophomore education and risking injury.

Or, the right education for two years gives a kid a better chance of not going broke.

 

[BamaFan334]

Do you really think a guy is going to have a better non athletic career for going to school 2 years compared to 1? That's the only point I'm making... Got a lot better chance of not going broke if you can put 5-10 mill in the bank over getting a sophomore education and risking injury.

It's up for debate. How many of these kids that are failing are banking $5-10M? And I hear your point. Mine is pointing more towards a long term opportunity. Universities and coaches are complicit in this entire thing as they are cheating and giving grades to these kids to keep them eligible, so you have to resolve that first before anything. We're failing the kids anyways at that point, so I would agree with you to let them test the free market. BUT, there are only so many opportunities in the NBA compared to a football or baseball roster, so I wish they would make all kids scratch and claw to stay eligible while teaching responsibility and putting their brains to work and accomplishing something more. Those that aren't made for college can go over seas and try there, but there is no reason to dumb down a college education in the name of sports. It's all out of hand at this point, so any decision will face backlash. Terry P and I reached that resolve a few weeks ago where every point has a counter-point and no one has the right answer.