💬 Morgan Wallen concert in BDS this Saturday night...

[It Takes Eleven]

They will. I'm curious about the install. Did they use sod cutters? If so, where did that turf go?

Oh, I think the grass is still under those tiles. They won't pull that up until the new goes in.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

People pick playlists. People pick podcasts. I'm in the latter group.

I am sure ....
i Have never ever heard a podcast

 

[TerryP]

Oh, I think the grass is still under those tiles. They won't pull that up until the new goes in.

Which would mean those pieces would have to be quite heavy.

I'm curious how they account for the convex surface.

 

[TerryP]

i Have never ever heard a podcast

Did you listen to talk radio when it was mainstream? The last one I listened to, consistently, was Dari and Mel on Saturday mornings before football. They ended their show in '24, I guess.

I listened to one of Mike Rowe's episodes today. He's got a great podcast.

Bottom line. I'd rather listen to good conversation than random music.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Which would mean those pieces would have to be quite heavy.

I'm curious how they account for the convex surface.

Why do you think they'd need to be very heavy? They're plastic or foam injection. Looking at the ramps, they don't look to be more than two inches thick. I'm not sure the crown would come into play. I think the crown on Saban Field is nearly as high as the 15 or 20 inches on the typical high school field (which is in the 1 to 1.5% grade); with the drainage system that it has, it might have little or none. If it did have a crown, six two twelve inches over 80 feet would allow those tiles to still fit with no noticeable gap. You're talking one degree or so.

Looking at on-field photos, I'm gonna say the field has no discernible crown:

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[TerryP]

Looking at on-field photos, I'm gonna say the field has no discernible crown:

If you stand on it you see it clearly. We talked about it here a few years ago just after they installed a new drainage system in the stadium. As I recall it was larger than normal. Most fields, the older ones at least, run a slope of 1 - 1.5 degrees. As I understand it, the newer one are generally a degree more; 2.5. If I'm not mistaken, the reports I read indicated BDS was greater than that.

Based on what I understand from someone in the party rental business, the dance floor for large parties/receptions are more difficult to lay than erecting those massive tents. Theirs resemble jigsaw puzzles. He's mentioned ground prep often. I'm fairly positive he's said they scalp the ground.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I think they make panels that protect the grass, allowing airflow and evenly distributing weight. Auburn will have a concert during the season this year, not sure if they're selling field tickets or not. EDIT: They are selling field tickets, no way they don't put down a grass safe covering.

I don't think a crown of 2.5% is anywhere these days.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Auburn will have a concert during the season this year, not sure if they're selling field tickets or not. EDIT: They are selling field tickets, no way they don't put down a grass safe covering.

They are temporarily removing the shrubs for the soccer match they are having there... some auburn fans were so pissed about it, you'd have thought they were playing at Crooked Oaks and moving Pat Dye's bones.

 

[TerryP]

I don't think a crown of 2.5% is anywhere these days.

I have no idea what the foundation of the soil is in the stadium. I doubt it's natural...can't see a clay loam there. I don't know.

A Google search yielded one result mentioning the variances.

Sports Field Drainage

For football fields, the general guidelines is to provide a 2.5 % slope from the crown in the center of the field to and past the sideline areas of the field. It is important to install a permitter drainage system on the sideline areas of the field to remove the excess moisture from these areas of the field. You may lower the crown of the field to 1.0 % slope from sideline to crown, but then an underground drainage system under the whole field will be required. Note, many high school football and city park fields are also being used for soccer following the football season. If this is the case, then the slope for the field needs to extend well beyond the normal sideline area of the football field. If this is not done, then the sideline areas of the football field were the players stand during games becomes torn up and this will make a very poor playing surface for the soccer games. For soccer fields built out of native soils, the recommendation is to provide a 1.0 to 2.5 % slope to the crown. While a 1.0 % slope to the crown is preferred by most soccer players, they also don't like playing in a swamp. If an underground drainage system cannot be included in the design of the soccer field then it would be best to use a 2% crown for the soccer field to insure good surface drainage, but a perimeter drain system is required along the edges of the field. While a crown in the center of football and/or soccer field is the most effective method to provide for surface drainage, it should be recognized that for some fields, surface drainage can be provided for by sloping the entire field from sideline to sideline or from end zone to end zone. However, the further the surface water has to flow to get off the field, the less effective the surface drainage becomes. Any low areas in the grade will disrupt the flow of surface water from the field and a drainage system is all but required.

I noticed the Culpepper guy is going to be at the amphitheatre on Daniel Island in early June. I've been to a few concerts there and for the life of me I can't remember how they covered the court. I know its a green clay.

I mentioned weight because the standard cutting height is 1 - 1.5" on sporting fields like football.

 

[Krimson]

Did you listen to talk radio when it was mainstream? The last one I listened to, consistently, was Dari and Mel on Saturday mornings before football. They ended their show in '24, I guess.

I listened to one of Mike Rowe's episodes today. He's got a great podcast.

Bottom line. I'd rather listen to good conversation than random music.

Give me music, i hear enough talking.

 

[TerryP]

Give me music, i hear enough talking.

Given the context, you get a pass.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I have no idea what the foundation of the soil is in the stadium. I doubt it's natural...can't see a clay loam there. I don't know.

A Google search yielded one result mentioning the variances.

Sports Field Drainage

I noticed the Culpepper guy is going to be at the amphitheatre on Daniel Island in early June. I've been to a few concerts there and for the life of me I can't remember how they covered the court. I know its a green clay.

I mentioned weight because the standard cutting height is 1 - 1.5" on sporting fields like football.

BDS is a highly engineered sand base, capable of draining off huge amounts of water through a drainage system situated under the entire field. It's been a while since I've read about it.

 

[Rolltide24]

Here’s a good video of a more common solution used to cover athletic fields for concerts. A tarp is put down over the glass and then these panels are installed. Says the grass survives if not down too long. 2 men can lift a Omnideck panel that looks to be 8’ x 4’.

The Ultimate Stadium Turf Protection Systems

Transform your stadium into a multi-purpose venue with Signature's industry-leading turf protection systems, OmniDeck and Matrax.

info.signature-systems.com

 

[TerryP]

It's been a while since I've read about it.

We talked about it here a few years ago just after they installed a new drainage system in the stadium.

I remember getting a little "lost" reading about different sideline drainage systems: pumps, pipes, etc.

The more I think about the crown of the field ... I'm remembering it was an interview with one of Bama's QB's. Right now I'm tempted to say it was a comparison to Neyland. It may have been that interview that sent me reading about the degree differences in the crowns. If I'm right about that, it means the interview was 2020, or earlier.

 

[OldPlayer]

All football fields, natural grass and artificial, have a crown. It helps with drainage and prevents puddling (no more run in the mud ala Stabler)

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Morgan Wallen is more controversial...

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Did you listen to talk radio when it was mainstream? The last one I listened to, consistently, was Dari and Mel on Saturday mornings before football. They ended their show in '24, I guess.

I listened to one of Mike Rowe's episodes today. He's got a great podcast.

Bottom line. I'd rather listen to good conversation than random music.

No