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Guilbeau used to write for the Baton Rouge Morning Advocate, which is a bigger paper than the Monroe New Star. Maybe he's not in Baton Rouge anymore because he didn't toe the LSU party line. I was never impressed with his writing in Baton Rouge, but the truth is the truth, no matter who writes it.
 
You know, if you substituted the names 'Brodie Croyle' and 'Mike Shula' for 'Periloux' and 'Miles' respectively, you would have a pretty good parallel for the way our former QB demonstrated a commitment to excellence and our former Head Coach being unable or unwilling to hold his prodigy accountable.

Croyle was well known to not exactly darken the weight-room too often and reports had him being perpetually late to team and position meetings (so much so that on more than one occasion players would wait by the door after a meeting had begun and when Croyle would finally show up they would walk in with him and simply dare Shula to address their tardiness).

Now, I am in NO way trying to make a comparison between Croyle and Periloux on matters of legal problems (but we were told that one of John Parker Wilson's DUI issues involved Wilson moving over to the driver's seat so the then starting QB would be spared - I have no idea if this is really true or not), and am only comparing football matters only. Such a comparison does not bode well for either our former QB or Coach.

As was said before me, 'the truth is the truth.' That is if the 'truth' I remember and recount above actually was truthful.
 
alagator said:
You know, if you substituted the names 'Brodie Croyle' and 'Mike Shula' for 'Periloux' and 'Miles' respectively, you would have a pretty good parallel for the way our former QB demonstrated a commitment to excellence and our former Head Coach being unable or unwilling to hold his prodigy accountable.

Croyle was well known to not exactly darken the weight-room too often and reports had him being perpetually late to team and position meetings (so much so that on more than one occasion players would wait by the door after a meeting had begun and when Croyle would finally show up they would walk in with him and simply dare Shula to address their tardiness).

Now, I am in NO way trying to make a comparison between Croyle and Periloux on matters of legal problems (but we were told that one of John Parker Wilson's DUI issues involved Wilson moving over to the driver's seat so the then starting QB would be spared - I have no idea if this is really true or not), and am only comparing football matters only. Such a comparison does not bode well for either our former QB or Coach.

As was said before me, 'the truth is the truth.' That is if the 'truth' I remember and recount above actually was truthful.

Do not see why this comparison is even pertinent. Who cares about the past....why even bring up Shula or Brodie, we all know the lack of discipline that revolved around the program back then. /shrug
 
The only reason I could see that is relevant is that LSU under Miles is headed in the same direction that Alabama was under Shula.

Kc said:
alagator said:
You know, if you substituted the names 'Brodie Croyle' and 'Mike Shula' for 'Periloux' and 'Miles' respectively, you would have a pretty good parallel for the way our former QB demonstrated a commitment to excellence and our former Head Coach being unable or unwilling to hold his prodigy accountable.

Croyle was well known to not exactly darken the weight-room too often and reports had him being perpetually late to team and position meetings (so much so that on more than one occasion players would wait by the door after a meeting had begun and when Croyle would finally show up they would walk in with him and simply dare Shula to address their tardiness).

Now, I am in NO way trying to make a comparison between Croyle and Periloux on matters of legal problems (but we were told that one of John Parker Wilson's DUI issues involved Wilson moving over to the driver's seat so the then starting QB would be spared - I have no idea if this is really true or not), and am only comparing football matters only. Such a comparison does not bode well for either our former QB or Coach.

As was said before me, 'the truth is the truth.' That is if the 'truth' I remember and recount above actually was truthful.

Do not see why this comparison is even pertinent. Who cares about the past....why even bring up Shula or Brodie, we all know the lack of discipline that revolved around the program back then. /shrug
 
Big_Fan said:
The only reason I could see that is relevant is that LSU under Miles is headed in the same direction that Alabama was under Shula.

Kc said:
alagator said:
You know, if you substituted the names 'Brodie Croyle' and 'Mike Shula' for 'Periloux' and 'Miles' respectively, you would have a pretty good parallel for the way our former QB demonstrated a commitment to excellence and our former Head Coach being unable or unwilling to hold his prodigy accountable.

Croyle was well known to not exactly darken the weight-room too often and reports had him being perpetually late to team and position meetings (so much so that on more than one occasion players would wait by the door after a meeting had begun and when Croyle would finally show up they would walk in with him and simply dare Shula to address their tardiness).

Now, I am in NO way trying to make a comparison between Croyle and Periloux on matters of legal problems (but we were told that one of John Parker Wilson's DUI issues involved Wilson moving over to the driver's seat so the then starting QB would be spared - I have no idea if this is really true or not), and am only comparing football matters only. Such a comparison does not bode well for either our former QB or Coach.

As was said before me, 'the truth is the truth.' That is if the 'truth' I remember and recount above actually was truthful.

Do not see why this comparison is even pertinent. Who cares about the past....why even bring up Shula or Brodie, we all know the lack of discipline that revolved around the program back then. /shrug

When I look at it that way, understandable. For some reason I do not think the OP looked at that way or meant it that way or maybe I am just reading it wrong.

Comparing Shula to sMiles right now is kind of difficult at the moment, imho. Shula seemed to try and be buddies instead of a mentor and that is just an observation of little merit. I am on the outside looking in when it comes to all that. Teams usually reflect their coach. Alabama did for along time, sanctions or not. The more I think about it, the more I thing Brodie and that team won on their own, so to speak.
 
kc...

Part of my comparison is that it sure seemed awfully quiet on the UA forums in the days when the stories were swirling around about Cryole's allergies to the weight room and his chronic tardiness to team and group meetings. There was very little, if any, protestations clouding the forums about what a bad seed the star of the program was exhibiting and the bad example he was setting for the rest of the team - much less how the Head Coach's unwillingness or inability to properly discipline said star was leading us to trouble.

I am a little uncomfortable with the UA fandom clamoring for LSU (and Miles) to hold its star to a standard we never demanded of our own. And a little uncomfortable with one of our own (former albeit) being afforded hero status when he is just as guilty (from an athletic perspective only mind you) as someone we label a 'thug' because the latter happens to play for a rival.
 
alagator said:
kc...

Part of my comparison is that it sure seemed awfully quiet on the UA forums in the days when the stories were swirling around about Cryole's allergies to the weight room and his chronic tardiness to team and group meetings. There was very little, if any, protestations clouding the forums about what a bad seed the star of the program was exhibiting and the bad example he was setting for the rest of the team - much less how the Head Coach's unwillingness or inability to properly discipline said star was leading us to trouble.

I am a little uncomfortable with the UA fandom clamoring for LSU (and Miles) to hold its star to a standard we never demanded of our own. And a little uncomfortable with one of our own (former albeit) being afforded hero status when he is just as guilty (from an athletic perspective only mind you) as someone we label a 'thug' because the latter happens to play for a rival.

who the hell is Cryole?
 
Birdman37 said:
alagator said:
kc...

Part of my comparison is that it sure seemed awfully quiet on the UA forums in the days when the stories were swirling around about Cryole's allergies to the weight room and his chronic tardiness to team and group meetings. There was very little, if any, protestations clouding the forums about what a bad seed the star of the program was exhibiting and the bad example he was setting for the rest of the team - much less how the Head Coach's unwillingness or inability to properly discipline said star was leading us to trouble.

I am a little uncomfortable with the UA fandom clamoring for LSU (and Miles) to hold its star to a standard we never demanded of our own. And a little uncomfortable with one of our own (former albeit) being afforded hero status when he is just as guilty (from an athletic perspective only mind you) as someone we label a 'thug' because the latter happens to play for a rival.

who the hell is Cryole?

Uhh. Croyle maybe?
 
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