🏈 Les Miles is a joke - Jeremy Hill back on team

['65 Cobra]

Les Miles let the players decide. What a freakin' joke. He says it's democracy in action - he let the players decide behind closed doors. Then he says, if it were up to him, he would have kicked him off the team. BS!! IT IS up to him!!! He did this players vote knowing what the result would be. What are the players going to do? They won't kick off a teammate. The inmates run the asylum. So glad Saban isn't such a BS weakling.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

"s-e-c, s-e-c, s-e-c!"

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Ok, for some reason, it won't allow all caps. I give up.

 

[UAgrad93]

I believe ol Les was trying the Leadership Council like what CNS has in place. The problem with that is, Les has no LEADERS on his team!!! Les will sit Hill out for 2-3 games but you can bet your azz that he will get 20-25 touches against us.

 

[JoshB]

This is the guy that sucker punched somebody in the head right?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

This is the guy that sucker punched somebody in the head right?

I think it was more like sucker stomped...

 

[TerryP]

I think it was more like sucker stomped...

That would be another LSU player—Jordan Jefferson.

Definitely a sucker punch with Hill.

While Miles has had a player in the headlines in what seems to be an annual tradition, if you look at the number of arrests versus the number of players he's had in Baton Rouge he's done well keeping his kids in line.

 

[bama alum]

K, I'm going to play devil's advocate here for just a minute...Not to piss anybody off, but maybe because I don't see the difference yet (unless the difference is the (public) arrest). The players voted to keep Hill on the team. Didn't the Bama players vote to keep Leon Brown on the team as well? What is the difference?

Jeremy Hill didn't beat Bama at home last year; he won't beat Bama on the road either. And like with Johnny Drama-Cash-Paycheck-Hancock, I would rather our opponents be at their best so there are no whiny a$$ excuses.

 

[JoshB]

^^ When did this happen?

 

[bama alum]

Back in the late spring. My understanding is that Brown had perhaps failed a drug test or two. He is still in CNS's doghouse.

Don't get me wrong. There's no surprise that Hill's back on the team; Lester's in charge.



Btw Birdman, the game your sig takes place is on ESPN U right now...In the 4th quarter.

 

[TerryP]

K, I'm going to play devil's advocate here for just a minute...Not to piss anybody off, but maybe because I don't see the difference yet (unless the difference is the (public) arrest). The players voted to keep Hill on the team. Didn't the Bama players vote to keep Leon Brown on the team as well? What is the difference?

Jeremy Hill didn't beat Bama at home last year; he won't beat Bama on the road either. And like with Johnny Drama-Cash-Paycheck-Hancock, I would rather our opponents be at their best so there are no whiny a$$ excuses.

Two points.

One, with failed drug tests, there are already discipline standards in place with the program. IF bad enough (as in repeated failed tests,) Saban may elect to choose whether this goes in front of the Leadership Council or not. But, one failed test? It wouldn't be passed on. My best guess—from what I've been told about the program—is that decision/choice would come with the third and that third violation of team rules carries with it dismissal as a strong possibility.

Two, fact of the matter reflects, if a team losses there are going to be factions within their fan base that will make whiney-ass excuses no matter what happened in the game itself.

 

[bama alum]

Thank you for clarifying, Terry. Aiight, next question then...Lester put this kind of crap from Jeremy Hill to a Leadership Council?

Two, fact of the matter reflects, if a team losses there are going to be factions within their fan base that will make whiney-ass excuses no matter what happened in the game itself.

Oh, yeah!

 

[TerryP]

Thank you for clarifying, Terry. Aiight, next question then...Lester put this kind of crap from Jeremy Hill to a Leadership Council?

By the accounts I've read it was a team vote. I've never seen any reference to a Leadership Council or any type of peer review set-up within their football program.

I've got mixed feelings on the reasons behind Miles handling this in this manner—mainly due to not knowing what his reasoning was/is.

I understand second chances. But I have to weigh that against the willingness to put aside his original charge in high school due to the circumstances. Does that explain, or justify, him sucker-punching the guy at the bar? By no means. It was a punk-ass move.

BUT, we don't know what Miles has decided to do with Hill (IE: discipline) So, it's my opinion labeling him as a "joke" is premature.

 

[XXL TideFan]

Their team, their issue and they will have to deal with any repercussions.

 

[TerryP]

Their team, their issue and they will have to deal with any repercussions.

Which is already happening and there's more to come.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>NFL Draft 365: Gary Patterson takes swipe at Jeremy Hill discipline &gt;&gt; <a href="http://t.co/M2Zba9eezV">http://t.co/M2Zba9eezV</a></p>&mdash; Chase Goodbread (@ChaseGoodbread) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseGoodbread/statuses/365263652372226048">August 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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It remains to be seen whether LSU running back Jeremy Hill plays in his team's season opener against Texas Christian in a few weeks. The troubled sophomore star may yet be suspended by coach Les Miles.


But that didn't stop TCU coach Gary Patterson from taking a pointed jab at Miles' discipline of Hill. According to The Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Patterson had this to say about Miles' decision to let Hill's LSU teammates vote on his reinstatement:


"I'm sure if it was some opponent they'd beat by 100 points (the players) wouldn't have a vote. It's not my worry. I've got to play whoever they put on the field."


Hill was reinstated to the team following a highly favorable ruling from a judge that kept him out of jail following a probation violation. He was already on probation for a sex-related crime with a minor that occurred while he was in high school. Then last spring, Hill sucker-punched someone outside a Baton Rouge bar and was charged with battery. The result? Two more years of probation, no jail time, and the return of his LSU helmet. Hill's return to the team has been roundly criticized in the press.


Patterson, meanwhile, has suspended one of his best players for the LSU game. And he wasn't afraid to draw a comparison.

"My whole team would vote Devonte (Fields) to be back on the team because they all want to win," Patterson said. "That doesn't teach life lessons."

 

[JoshB]

Patterson needs to worry about his own players and less about what other teams do with their players.

 

[planomateo]

Patterson is commenting because its their opening game. Yeah, he certainly had his hands full the last few years

 

[Tide Zone]

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20130806/SPORTS0402/308060018/Glenn-Guilbeau-LSU-tailback-runs-free-returns-team?gcheck=1 :dazed:

If you watch the video of the punch, Hill looks much more guilty than former LSU quarterback Jordan Jefferson, who was charged with felony second degree battery for kicking a man already down in 2011. Had Hill’s victim not been able to take the punch like Rocky, Hill may have been charged with a felony, too.
But Blaize went to work. First, she got Hill’s probation revocation hearing moved up from Aug. 16 to Monday, which was scheduled for just a status conference concerning Hill. But Monday also just happened to be the first day of football practice at LSU. Court dates are often moved, any lawyer will tell you. Moved back,not up.
The prosecution was apparently not prepared for this. District Attorney Hillar Moore said Sunday that he didn’t expect anything more than a status conference. Next thing you know, another judge from the LSU alumni center sentenced Hill to probation instead of jail for the third time in 18 months.

 

[Tide Zone]

http://www.wbrz.com/news/les-miles-answers-critics-concerning-hill-suspension/

 

['65 Cobra]

Obviously, I'm not the only one who thinks the way I do. My main thing for Lester is just don't be shady and put it off on your players' council or whatever. Be a man and face the music. If you're going to excuse the kid, just do it yourself and take the heat you'll get for being soft.