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The Georgia Bulldogs will host the Texas A&M Aggies at Sanford Stadium on Saturday in a matchup that represents the first meeting between the schools since Texas A&M joined the Southeastern Conference in 2012.

It took until their eighth season in the SEC for the Aggies to finally face Georgia, but could long droughts like these between conference opponents soon be coming to an end in the SEC? There are no guarantees, but Texas A&M Jimbo Fisher revealed that the conference is at least considering an adjustment to the schedule that would allow every team in the SEC to play against one another at least twice every four years.

ā€œThat's just the way the SEC schedule is. I know they’re looking at some formats going forward that keep the three main and rotate five and all those things,ā€ Fisher said during a press conference earlier this week. ā€œI think it is good for your players, eventually, to be able to play everybody in the conference. I really do believe that. I mean, I think that's good. And to have that you've played that team or been in that stadium or those things. But when you have conferences as big as you have now, that’s kind of the way it goes.ā€

The scenario Fisher describes would mean that each SEC team had three permanent "rivals" and then a rotation of five games each year with the remaining 10 conference opponents. In Texas A&M's case, that might mean annual games versus LSU, Arkansas and Missouri. Then, for example, in even years, the Aggies could also face Florida, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Auburn and Kentucky, while playing Georgia, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Alabama and Mississippi State during odd years.

The format described by the second-year Aggies coach would mean that every player in the SEC got an opportunity to play at least one road game and a home game against each SEC team over a four-year period.

The Aggies and Bulldogs are scheduled to kick off from Athens at 2:30 p.m. CT on Saturday. The matchup will be broadcasted on CBS.

Savor the moment, because Georgia and Texas A&M won't meet again until the Bulldogs visit Kyle Field in 2024.
 
A quick intro to the pods concept - 3 permanent rivals (copied here for ease of reading). The format at this point would be a 3/5 seeing as how the SEC doesn't have the courage to go to a 9 game conference schedule.

I think I'd be ok with something like this to help get rid of the divisional format and enable teams to play more of the SEC quicker.


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Every conference should replace divisions with pods
This would mean playing every rival regularly, enjoying schedule parity, preserving top rivalries, and ensuring the best conference title game possible.

By Jason Kirk, Alex Kirshner, Bud Elliott, Matt Brown, and Bill C. Aug 15, 2019, 11:55am EDT

Most FBS conferences have divisions. The SEC started the trend in 1992, when it added a conference championship and needed a way to pick two reps. It made sense at the time, but it makes a whole lot less sense now.

Several conferences have grown to 14 teams. That’s way too many for a division setup, because even a nine-game schedule means some teams go years without playing alleged conference rivals.

Even for smaller conferences, there’s a better way. Really, every conference should get rid of divisions and just assign a few annual rivalries, which would mean plenty of obvious benefits.

Since each conference has its own unique issues, here are custom proposals for the entire Power 5. Most non-power conferences could also adapt one of these.

1. In a pod system, the SEC gets rid of an East-West imbalance and still maintains its most important rivalries.
Scrapping divisions in the 14-team SEC would allow the protection of three annual rivalries for each team, plus ensure every other matchup happened every other year.

It would also eliminate the lopsided championship matchups that were becoming the norm before Kirby Smart’s Georgia came around. That’s because without divisions, the top two teams in the SEC (or any league not using divisions) play in the title game.

The protected rivalries we envision in the regular season, though you could tweak any of this however you’d like:

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LSU and Florida fans would prefer to face each other, and Auburn fans would prefer plenty of teams over Mississippi State, so this is an imperfect attempt. However, any adjustment for one team will demand other adjustments. For example, replacing South Carolina with LSU on Florida’s list means the Gamecocks need a new rival — and Tennessee’s dance card is locked, so who else would make any geographic sense? Maybe Kentucky, with some further adjustments?

Anyway, the point is this: instead of the current setup, in which one team can go about a decade without seeing a conference foe’s stadium, every team will play every team within every two years anyway. Here’s the setup in even-numbered years ...

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... and in odd-numbered years:

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We researched this system, along with others in this post, in 2016. We found that the 14 conference schedules were close to even in difficulty, based on 10-year S&P+ ratings. If we did the same research in just about any other recent year instead, the schedules would grade out about the same. There’s also little difference in difficulty for anybody between even- and odd-numbered years.

Oh, and the SEC doesn’t have to give up its eight-game schedule.

2. The Big Ten can keep rivalries intact but also spread heavyweights around even more than the SEC can.
A couple of Big Ten fans from our group selected these protected rivalries, which would let the Big Ten keep a nine-game schedule and preserve all the league’s major series:

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In real life, the average Big Ten East team had a 10-year S&P+ rank nine spots better than the average East team. Moreover, the East allows less upward mobility, because historical powers Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State (and occasional power Michigan State) reside in the same division.

The pod system would, we found, drastically straighten out that imbalance. Look at these average S&P+ ranks over that same span:

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Michigan State fans didn’t like the idea of dropping Ohio State, but we heard few major complaints otherwise. It’s a small price to pay for a more level playing field. (And again, MSU would play OSU almost every year anyway.)

Oh, and Big Ten fans can still insist their nine-game schedule makes their teams tougher.

3. The ACC can finally make sense!
The ACC has a mingled pile of identities, and its divisions have neither coherence nor balance, because long ago someone decided Florida State and Miami must be kept apart. There are Southern football schools, teams from the Big East, private schools, and the North Carolina group, all piled haphazardly.

Let’s try four protected rivalries per team:

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That’d mean all the Carolina teams play each other, and we retain other rivalries for each: the South’s Oldest Rivalry (North Carolina-Virginia), the Textile Bowl (Clemson-NC State), and a schedule-balancing Duke-Georgia Tech series with some old history. Florida State-Wake Forest is the only totally forced pairing in that group (with at least a little history to it), but it balances FSU's tough group of rivals.

Also, associate member Notre Dame is included here, because it's more fun that way. The Irish have a ton of rivals, including a couple ACC snubs, but we picked Louisville because of proximity. They can learn to hate each other and surely have basketball emotions already. Every other ACC team can rotate on ND’s schedule, one or two per year or whatever.

4. The Pac-12 is the most fun. And it’s so orderly, it sets up another option.
In the Pac-12, let’s do three pods of four teams each. 3 x 4 = Pac-12!

  • UCLA-USC and Cal-Stanford have to stay annual, but all four California teams could be considered protected rivals.
  • The Northwest has two state rivalries and one other big rivalry, Oregon-Washington. And, hey, Wazzu and Oregon State can keep playing every year, too.
  • The Mountain’s four teams are kind of lumped together, but that group includes the Territorial Cup and Colorado-Utah, plus Arizona’s played Colorado and Utah a bunch.
It makes sense on a map:

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Pac-12 Championship berth aside, it would be cooler to win a four-team regional rivalry trophy than to win a division named after a word on a map, right? Nobody’s lining up to go to a Friday night Pac-12 title game in December anyway.

For the long term, dividing the conference into pods should cut into the geographic advantages certain teams have over their peers. USC’s always going to be in a better recruiting spot than Colorado. At least the Buffs don’t have to see USC all the time.

Still, you could encourage parity by basing out-of-pod schedules on the previous year’s standings (1s play 1s, 2s, and 3s; 2s play 1s, 2s, and 4s; 3s play 1s, 3s, and 4s; and 4s play 2s, 3s, and 4s). Here’s what 2019’s opponents would look like for 2018 Pac-12 California champion Stanford, for example:

From their own California Pod:

  • Cal
  • UCLA
  • USC
From the Northwest Pod:

  1. Washington
  2. Washington State
  3. Oregon
From the Mountain Pod:

  1. Utah
  2. Arizona State
  3. Arizona
The Buffaloes and Beavers would duck Stanford, thus improving their bowl chances.

5. The Big 12 can just keep on being the Big 12.
Everybody already plays everybody every year. So, we’ll just say to each team, "The Big 12 has protected rivalries now, and you're secretly Texas’ one true rival."

(Including Texas.)

6. What about non-powers and non-FBS conferences?
A little trickier, because membership for many of these has often been fluid, which makes rivalries harder to group. But any version of the above could be adapted for any conference.

For instance, the 12-team MAC could try the Pac-12 version, and that’d be plenty to protect the rivalries that matter most:

  • The Directional Michigan-ish Pod, protecting annual games between EMU, WMU, CMU, and Southeastern Michigan, more widely known as Toledo.
  • The Ohio, with OU, Miami, Akron, and Bowling Green.
  • The Midwest, featuring Northern Illinois, Ball State, Kent State, and ... Buffalo. Sorry.
The last of those makes minimal geographic sense — welcome to the realignment era — but it does make sense to split up Toledo and NIU, who aren’t really rivals but have been by far the two most consistent programs in the conference. Tinker as you see fit.

Or we could all just do the Ivy League thing: everybody plays everybody. Done.
 
Drop the Barn as a permanent team and move one!!!! I have posted this several times in the past, never have cared for the iron bowl and the barn. It lifts their program up and in my view does very little for Bama. Make them stand on their own merit. I know it will never happen.
 
My issue would be how they select who plays in the SECCG. Top two teams? Hello Big12. If there's a tie for #2, is it the team that hasn't played recently? Anybody want to do some research and see how the SECCG match ups for the last 10 years would have changed if it was based on the top two teams?
 
Our permanents are tough.....like that..
@mando ....can't and wont and shouldnt ever ever drop AU....
These matchups make college football

I saw on a Reddit thread a solution to all of the issues. Go to 9 conference games in a 5/4 configuration. We play LSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State every year to retain our oldest games and balance the permanent field well and still get the 4 year home-and-home against the rest of the SEC.
 
I saw on a Reddit thread a solution to all of the issues. Go to 9 conference games in a 5/4 configuration. We play LSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State every year to retain our oldest games and balance the permanent field well and still get the 4 year home-and-home against the rest of the SEC.

The SEC is scared of this. They believe that the SEC doesn't need 9 conference games to compete, which is the case currently. I'm of the opinion you plan for the future.
 
No research...but off the top of my head.
Anybody want to do some research and see how the SECCG match ups for the last 10 years would have changed if it was based on the top two teams?
2011 is the only year that comes to mind when Bama and UGA both had one loss (LSU and UofSC respectively.)
If there's a tie for #2, is it the team that hasn't played recently?
And there's the key. We don't know how the tie-breaker would work. I would assume that Bama would get the nod considering they won against Auburn and UofSC lost to the Tigers. UofSC also lost to Arkansas that season.
 
My issue would be how they select who plays in the SECCG. Top two teams? Hello Big12. If there's a tie for #2, is it the team that hasn't played recently? Anybody want to do some research and see how the SECCG match ups for the last 10 years would have changed if it was based on the top two teams?

Not sure that really matters. Considering the SEC East is the land of cupcakes the last decade compared to the SEC West.

Easily could make the case the SEC West has had the 2 best teams in the SEC many times in the last 10 years.

But then again, a rotating schedule will make it harder to compare wins/loses equally.
 
Not sure that really matters. Considering the SEC East is the land of cupcakes the last decade compared to the SEC West.

Easily could make the case the SEC West has had the 2 best teams in the SEC many times in the last 10 years.

But then again, a rotating schedule will make it harder to compare wins/loses equally.
East is CURRENTLY "land of cupcakes" Tennessee Florida. UGA..Missouri
West....Alabama lsu AU AnM.....ms state. Ark and ole ms just slightly better than east
 
Honestly, I would prefer Mississippi State to LSU as a permanent. It makes more sense from a historical perspective (Bama has played State more than any other team and State's top 3 are Ole Miss, LSU, Bama).
Yeah, added Dixieland Delight lyrics aside, LSU only really became a "rival" when Saban took over in Tuscaloosa. A lot more history with MSU and the two schools are the closest. in geographic sense. in the conference.
 
Jimbo needs to worry about winning games. Is he not on the hot seat yet? They’ll end up 7-5 with 3 wins over no-name schools. They owe him what, another $60MM over the next 8 years, all guaranteed. Geez.

He's not on the hot seat. They knew it was a multi-year turnaround. Plus at $7.5+ million per year, do they want to pay that in addition to another coach at a similar rate (since the price has been established)?
 
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