| FTBL Is it too early to ask, could LSU finish last in the West?

Brandon Van de Graaff

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Ok, first off, let's take a look at their schedule...

DATEMATCHUPRESULT/TIMEGAME INFO
Sat, Sep 26vs Mississippi StL 34 - 44Recap | Box Score | Photos
Sat, Oct 3@ VanderbiltW 41 - 7Recap | Box Score | Photos
Sat, Oct 10@ MissouriL 41 - 45Recap | Box Score
Sat, Oct 17@ (10) FloridaPostponed
Sat, Oct 24vs S Carolina7:00 PM ETESPN
Sat, Oct 31@ Auburn3:30 PM ETCBS
Sat, Nov 14vs (2) Alabama6:00 PM ETCBS
Sat, Nov 21@ ArkansasTBD
Sat, Nov 28@ (7) Texas A&MTBD
Sat, Dec 5vs Ole MissTBD
Sat, Dec 12@ (10) Florida


Now, the current SEC West standings...

CONFOVERALLHOMEROADNEUTRALPFPASTRK
Alabama4-04-02-02-00-0194115W4
Texas A&M3-13-12-01-10-0110116W2
Arkansas2-22-21-11-10-092102W1
Auburn2-22-22-00-20-08798L1
LSU1-21-20-21-00-011696L1
Ole Miss1-31-30-21-10-0146188L2
Mississippi State1-31-30-21-10-074107L3

We know that Alabama and Texas A&M are not ending up in the cellar. That leaves Arky, auburn, Ole Miss, MSU, and LSU.

-Arkansas drew the short end of the schedule stick, but they already have 2 wins and are playing better than anyone expected. They still have winnable games left, in particular, Tennessee, Missouri, and yes, LSU.

-Ole Miss only has 1 current win, but has the offense to win any given weekend. They also play Vandy which should be a gimmie (and I figure Lane will try and destroy MSU in the Egg Bowl).

-auburn has no business being in this discussion, but here they are (thanks, Gus!). They sit at 2-2 in the league and their next 4 games could be a bit of a crapshoot: @ Ole Miss, LSU, @ MSU, and Tennessee. auburn should win at least 2 of those which would put them in good shape (for the sake of this conversation, make no mistake, they're screwed overall).

-MSU, IMO, is a big contender here. As of now, they are already sharing last place with Ole Miss (both with 1-3 records). Good news for State is that Vandy lurks on the schedule. Bad news is, unless they get things figured out on offense soon, there's not much else there. But weird things happen in the SEC in November, and weird things happen with Leach. It would be just like him to lose to Vandy but beat auburn and Missouri somehow.

-LSU, like auburn, has no excuse even being mentioned in a thread like this. Yes, they lost a ton on and off the field from last season, but they still have a lot of talent. If they don't beat South Carolina this Saturday, the possibility of a last place finish will become much more realistic, IMO. I should probably stop and mention here that according to reports, their QB Myles Brennan is out indefinitely with a torn abdomen (also, Bo Pelini is still their defensive coordinator). LSU's lone win is against helpless Vandy. The once thought "easy game" against Arkansas is no longer that, and it is @ Arky. Their possible SEC West bottom dwelling status could come down to the auburn (away) and Ole Miss (home) games. Also, and this is very important, MSU beat them already, so they own that head-to-head tiebreaker if say both finish with 3 wins.

Regardless how it plays out, it is going to be fun to watch unfold IMO. The fact that I can even bring this question up about a team that was (justifiably, IMO) labeled the best team ever in 2019 is fascinating (Orgeron's history notwithstanding). How do you guys see it playing out? Can LSU get good enough play from their backup QB to keep the pressure off Pelini and their defense and win a few? If LSU does manage to find a few wins, which team do you think ends up at the bottom of the league standings after week 10?
 
Briefly mentioned that near the bottom in the LSU part, supposedly it is a torn abdomen (which I would imagine means at least 4-5 weeks on the shelf for a QB, but I don't know).

That's really rough, I hate that for anyone.

I only hope he was injured the way Chipper Jones used to always pull his internal oblique only when on the road in cities with a Hooters near the stadium...
 
If we take 1950 and go backwards we'll find several teams that were awarded the title one year and proceeded to tank the next. There were a handful between 1910 and 1920, one in the 40's likely due to all the kids going off to war. In fact, Bama is in this list of "worst defending national champs" category: 5-4-1 1927 team coached by Wallace Wade.

Since then there's been four like the '17 Ohio State team or the '67 Michigan State team. The other two come from the SEC: Auburn's 8 win season in 2011 following their title in '10 and the '08 LSU team who also finished the season with 8 wins. The latter, that 2007 LSU team, wasn't that strong of a title holder as it was.

Are we going to see a defending champ finish out the season with a record worse than .500? If so, it'll be the worse season for a defending champs since WWII: a three wins season for Ohio State in 1943.
 
If we take 1950 and go backwards we'll find several teams that were awarded the title one year and proceeded to tank the next. There were a handful between 1910 and 1920, one in the 40's likely due to all the kids going off to war. In fact, Bama is in this list of "worst defending national champs" category: 5-4-1 1927 team coached by Wallace Wade.

Since then there's been four like the '17 Ohio State team or the '67 Michigan State team. The other two come from the SEC: Auburn's 8 win season in 2011 following their title in '10 and the '08 LSU team who also finished the season with 8 wins. The latter, that 2007 LSU team, wasn't that strong of a title holder as it was.

Are we going to see a defending champ finish out the season with a record worse than .500? If so, it'll be the worse season for a defending champs since WWII: a three wins season for Ohio State in 1943.
And so fitting for lsu to have gone from....their claim.....GOAT to being GOAT f**ked....
 


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Cookie Monster's days on the bayou are numbered. He is NOT a good coach. He tripped over a rare talent in Burrow. It was all lightening in a bottle and he won't come close to that level of success again. He is still the same buffoon that ran Ole Miss into the ground from 2005-2007.
 
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