🏈 Is Greg McElroy the best Alabama QB ever?

I see that as hard to defend when he had to wait for JPW to graduate before taking over.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but can you imagine what some of the other QBs could have done with an Ingram/Richardson/Jones trio and an OL that is putting gues into the pros every years?
 
he's certainly one of the best QBs Alabama has ever had. not always because of what he did in games, but a lot of time what he didn't do. he didn't blow it by throwing ints and fumbling multiple times. he didn't forget what the hell play we were running. he is/was sharp as a tack mentally and was not a mistake maker. that factor alone counts for most of any QBs success.

there are many QBs all over the country with better/stronger arms and more attractive physical attributes than GMac, but he is tops in the mental category of any QB i've ever seen Alabama have.

I wish him well in what he does. I'm very thankful to have had him as a representative of the University for the last few years.

i think he is in the top 3 of all the Alabama QBs i've ever seen. it's hard to say though because the other good QBs i put next to him didn't have as good a team supporting them.
 
If we're talking about just the past 50 years, he's got a legitimate claim to be in the top 5, considering record, NC's, other intangibles. I'd have to rank Barker the best given all the wins and the NC. Namath is the original Joe Cool, had a NC, was the biggest name, and arguably the best pro QB to ever come out of Bama - bad knees and all (Bart Starr and Kenny Stabler would both have legitimate arguments). Here's how I'd rank 'em.

<table style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 144pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="192"><col style="width: 84pt;" width="112"> <col style="width: 60pt;" width="80"> <tbody><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt; width: 84pt;" width="112" height="20">Jay Barker</td> <td style="width: 60pt;" width="80">35-2-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Joe Namath</td> <td>22-3-0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Ken Stabler</td> <td>18-2-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Pat Trammell </td> <td class="xl63">23-2-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">John McElroy</td> <td class="xl63">23-3-0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Steve Sloan</td> <td>15-2-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Jeff Rutledge</td> <td class="xl63">24-4-0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Terry Davis</td> <td>21-3-0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl64" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Richard Todd</td> <td class="xl63">18-2-0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Steadman Shealy</td> <td class="xl63">12-0-0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Gary Rutledge</td> <td class="xl63">11-1-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Barker unbeaten in games that he started AND finished? Didn't he have to leave the games because of an injury in the 2 losses?
 
While the wishbone era qbs had some great W/L records, they were playing on very good teams that relied on powerful running attacks and strong defense. I'm not saying that there wasn't talent there, but it would be very difficult to get a meaningful comparison between Tery Davis, who rarely passed and had an at best average arm, but excelled at making the right read in the wishbone, and Barker, for example, who was a very efficient passer in his junior and senior years. I wouldn't consider them for comparison purposes (or Pat Trammel for that matter, who was a very tough runner who again rarely threw the ball. The 59-61 teams won on kicking and great defense.)

Namath, Sloan and Stabler all played on strong teams, but they had that mystique about them. You almost knew for sure that if we needed a late drive for a win that those guys were going to find a way to get the team down the field. While Shula didn't have the arm strength of those three, he did have the field and huddle presnece as a starter and also led some memorable winning drives. Barker was an interesting case. He was a game manager in his first two years as a starter, but Homer Smith made him into a very effective qb gis last two seasons.

I regard MacElroy differently. Maybe it his just me, but he does not project the strong on the field personality as the others on my list. Perhaps it is the difference in back then and now, since so much was called on the field then, and most everything is called from the pressbox or sidelines now. He is very intelligent, very efficient at what he does, I will grant, and certainly played well enough a year ago to get us the crystal football.
 
While he may not be the very best talent wise, he is the epitomy of what you would want your starting QB to be off of the field.

You can hear it Coach Saban's voice when he talks about Greg's academic accolades.

We will miss Greg a lot more than most people think next year.
 
IMO, Gmac is clearly the smartest QB we have had. At least that I can say I have seen. I remember Barker as the QB, but no one before him. So, I guess it would not be fair for me to say
Gmac is the best we have ever had. But in the last 20 years, I would rank him #1 or #2. I think Gmac and Barker both have strong cases.
 
I know he got hurt in the Aub. game in 93. I am pretty sure he was in all the way in the SECCG in 94 though.

You may be right about the 94 SECCG, but for some reason, I was thinking he got knocked out of that one also. It may have been a minor injury that he had to leave the field but came back later that I'm thinking about.
 
Another way to look at the question would be to ask an outsider; someone who is not too close to the situation. I'm sure that it would be easy to find those that would say Nameth was our greatest, perhaps of all time. Stabler would get a few nods. Barker perhaps a couple as well, but only among Alabama QBs.

Last year GMac faced at least three QBs that most of the nation would have said was better than him -- McCoy, Tebow, and Mallet. This never happend to Nameth.

This year, even with starting the season as the undefeated QB with a NC ring on his finger, he was still marginalized among QBs as a Game Manager who rode the coat-tails of a great supporting cast. Nameth and Stabler bested GMac in the "put the team on his shoulders..." category.

GMac was not a GREAT QB. He was a GREAT Winner, and I'd take that everyday of the week...and twice on Sunday.
 
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