🏈 I'm reading over Sheridan's comments on LSU in the thread about 2018. What are your thoughts on how their season goes?

[alagator]

It's at Auburn and if was a night game I could see this. But, an afternoon context and Auburn giving double digits? Seems high to me.



And then his one from Sallee.



Seven wins, max?

Are they really looking at 4th or 5th in the west?

 

[TUSKtimes]

This was always setting up as a big year for Orgeron. I thought his OL, DBs, and running backs were below normal this season and I have no idea why he was either missing these guys on the recruiting trail or ignoring depth at these positions. With the QBs producing not much of anything in their spring game, it really felt like he was about to undergo a gigantic painful experience in the West. I know that Aranda can mix and match and somehow protect the back half of his defense, especially with his front 7 being really good. It's the offense that has me believing they were in trouble, including their selection of OC. Maybe Joe Burrows can bridge some of the deficiencies but this still looks like a down cycle for LSU. I think Orgeron is going to have to do something more significant this season than swing those pom-poms.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

7-5 or 6-6 may be on over side....
Ls with....Miami, @AU, @FL, UGA, AL, @TX AnM......thats 6.... plus both MS schools and a good LaTech....and @Ark..... will be a program to watch this year...

 

[BamaFan334]

I bet they win 9 this year. That will be tough, but I think they pull out a win against Miami, Texas A&M, and Florida. They may even beat Georgia if their defense comes to play.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

7-5 or 6-6 may be on over side....
Ls with....Miami, @AU, @FL, UGA, AL, @TX AnM......thats 6.... plus both MS schools and a good LaTech....and @Ark..... will be a program to watch this year...

I agree. Looking at it now, I see three nonconference wins, and a likely win (not completely sure) against Ole Miss. That's four. Losses against aubrun, Georgia and Bama are probable. That's 4 and 3. I think they will not be favored against Florida, MSU, Arky and aTm. If they split those games (possible, but unlikely they do any better), that's 6 and 5. The Miami game can keep them above .500, but if the D gets the injury bug, and with MSU coming right after a physical GA game, and Arky coming right after Bama, I think they will range 5-7 to 7-5.

2018 LSU Football Schedule
Sept. 1 vs. Miami (Fla.) (in Arlington, Texas) Toss up
Sept. 8 SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA Win
Sept. 15 at Auburn Loss
Sept. 22 LOUISIANA TECH Win
Sept. 29 OLE MISS Win Lean
Oct. 6 at Florida Loss Lean
Oct. 13 GEORGIA Loss
Oct. 20 MISSISSIPPI STATE Loss Lean
Oct. 27 Open Date
Nov. 3 ALABAMA Loss
Nov. 10 at Arkansas Loss Lean
Nov. 17 RICE Win
Nov. 24 at Texas A&M Loss Lean

RTR,

Tim

 

[TerryP]

Seven wins, max?

Are they really looking at 4th or 5th in the west?

Ls with....Miami, @AU, @FL, UGA, AL, @TX AnM......thats 6.... plus both MS schools and a good LaTech....and @Ark..... will be a program to watch this year...

I caught a blurb in the last week or so saying LSU was one of the few programs who had won eight games each season this century. There's a real good chance that ends this season. Look at the games @50+yeartidefan has listed here: everyone one of them could easily be a loss--only three or four where you might use the word toss-up.

Here's what I think you have to keep in mind. While Auburn had a good run from ''04 through '07 Ensminger was the weakest link on that staff. Tubs promoted him to offensive coordinator in 2008 and I don't need to remind you what happened in '08, do I?

Look. He went from the offensive coordinator to a high school coach in one year. If I need to remind you, that's a DuBose. He wasn't offered a position coaches job, anywhere. Do I need to go on?

Why did LSU hire him you might ask? Where did he go to school would be my answer: he's LSU alum. I don't believe you'll find very many programs--if any at all--that would hire him as an offensive coordinator. He has his job due to being an alum and he's the kind of guy that'll two the line no matter what. His time at AU proved such.

Look at the list @It Takes Eleven just posted--are you really ready to concede an Ole Miss win for the Tigers? That has all the makings of a 14-3 type of game with the Rebels notching their lone win in the West.

 

[TerryP]

An interesting point I ran across this morning.

If we go back about five years we'd look at the LSU defense and find a bunch of players I would have loved to see playing for Bama. Now, looking at their defense, there's a few--maybe two.

How far has their talent fallen?

 

[planomateo]

Poor Orgeron, Glenn is already making excuses for the season. How many of Orgeron's assistants are head coaches in the SEC?

 

[bama alum]

Poor Orgeron, Glenn is already making excuses for the season. How many of Orgeron's assistants are head coaches in the SEC?

He's going to be a more miserable homer than McCready is.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

So.....the SEC coaching tree goes through LSU.....not Saban n Bama....
Interesting..... some truth there...

 

[BamaFan334]

LSU being good is good for us and the SEC. We have little to no competition outside of Auburn, and depending on how the team in our first game is five years after the matchup is created. There was another thread that asked about teams you like to watch, and LSU is a team I enjoy watching. I'm a defensive guy, and LSU has always had great defenses and plays us very well. I enjoy that snot bubble created and swarming defense. We need someone to challenge us to maintain rivalries and quiet honestly, make the regular season eventful. I think they win nine games this year, I don't Mind Orgeron at all, and I do not hate LSU like a lot. I like their uniforms, love Mike the Tiger, enjoy their food and just don't despise them like I do Auburn, Georgia, and Florida. Most likely helps that we haven't lost to LSU in a while, but I don't hold the level of hatred, outside of gameday, like others here.

 

[TerryP]

I think they win nine games this year,

I like gambling too much.

 

[TerryP]

@BamaFan334, You remember how LSU fans bragged about how Chavis did against spread offenses? Now, they are going to a spread with Chavis coordinating the defense at Arkansas--a game I don't see as a "gimme" for LSU, at all.

I'm stil of the opinion their chances of being out of the SECW race by October are greater than the chances of them winning nine games on the season.

 

[BamaFan334]

@BamaFan334, You remember how LSU fans bragged about how Chavis did against spread offenses? Now, they are going to a spread with Chavis coordinating the defense at Arkansas--a game I don't see as a "gimme" for LSU, at all.

I'm stil of the opinion their chances of being out of the SECW race by October are greater than the chances of them winning nine games on the season.

Ha Ha, I hear you. I think they are a tougher team than folks give them credit for. I would bet on 8-8.5, but I could also see them winning 6. I think if they can win some tweener games and keep others close that they can pull off 9. Their defense will be good and allow the offense the opportunity to win some games. I just hope they beat Georgee.

 

[TerryP]

Their defense will be good and allow the offense the opportunity to win some games.

What offense? People think Orge was a bad hire...I don't believe people realize what a horrible hire Ensminger was.

 

[252BAMA]

LSU is dead last in the SEC, and #122 of 130, in returning production. And a Top 10 SOS. I have them last in West.

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[TerryP]

LSU is dead last in the SEC, and #122 of 130, in returning production. And a Top 10 SOS. I have them last in West.

If you look at the stats for '17, specifically rushing touchdowns, LSU has two players returning that scored rushing the ball--a WR (1) and a QB (2.) As of now it's up in the air whether the QB will still have the reigns of the offense when they kick off in the fall. Out of 20 something rushing TD's, they return three.

Now, chew on this for a minute. When is the last time you can recall LSU not returning a running back that had scored a TD in the previous season? Yeah. That long ago.

Ensminger was part of a pretty good staff when he was at Auburn. But, if you asked anyone that followed their coaching talent you'd find them saying "he was the worst of the group." Remember, he was promoted to Auburn's OC in '08 after he'd spent four seasons as their designated TE coach. And how did Auburn do in 2008 on offense? The only road game Auburn won that year was at Mississippi State: 3-2. It cost Tubs his job. Why did Tubs promote him to OC?

The same reason Orgeron has--easy, and won't rock the boat.

I don't know about last in the west but I could see them tied for last in the west. I can see Arkansas pulling a game out, maybe two, in conference play and I can see the same from LSU.

 

[jdpas29]

continued QB problems, team unity problems, lack of motivation, coach is from another land/time.

LSU will continue their steady descent back to the DiNardo era level of quality.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Maybe the great strategy is they plan on promoting Aranda when this thing blows up. You can't think any higher of a coordinator that the 2+ million on the payroll.