🏈 How would you grade Sims' performance?

[rick4bama]

After the int. did you read his lips? It look to me he was asking "What happen?" Did anyone else see or read his lips ? He got the win so I give him a B - close to a B+.

 

[TheChief]

I give him a solid C, absolute middle of the grading scale and passing.

Now what class was he in and what kind of test was this? This was an easy, open book test in Algebra. Still he did well due to the class and content and what he was asked to do.

This is what concerns me. We have closed book tests two or three times this year, and you know what classes they are? Calculus.

 

[RollllTide!]

I have to give him a B+ because of the win. Didn't realize how short he is or how tall the rest of the team seems to be. The first game didn't help him to look great because of our defense. Had the score been 33 to 6 we would have given him an A or A+.

 

[planomateo]

Sims after the game

 

[UAgrad93]

I'll grade him at a B+. 24-33 for 250 was definitely winning football. He had a couple of missed throws and the int didn't help. He kept some plays alive with his feet. There were several times that previous QBs for us would've been dead in the water and sacked but Blake avoided the defender. My question on the INT could be that the WR that the CB came off of to make the pick may have run the wrong route or broken his route off and thus aided the CB in making the read. A lot like the wildcat pass that Maze threw in the 2011 LSU game. Hanks ran his route too deep and that allowed Reid to read the ball and make the pick.

 

[psychojoe]

For the first time he has been in game action where it mattered, I thought Sims played quite well. Looking down the road, by Florida time he needs to stop staring down his receivers. He did miss a couple of easy throws, and he audibled a running play into a blitz instead of away from it. A solid C+. As I recall, Greg and A J had some tough moments early in their careers as starters.

 

[TheChief]

So we're officially, as fans, considering the quarterback competition over, PJ? That is regrettable. I find it difficult to imagine a quarterback with the seemingly outstanding physical talent of Coker not getting a real chance to display his talents on the actual stage. It's easy to say he wouldn't have done any better. We'll never know.

The competition was close until Friday night, and we see him hand off twice? I'm baffled.

There's more to this quarterback selection than we as fans are privy to learn. That is the only obvious conclusion I can draw.

 

[TerryP]

@TheChief The competition isn't over; not by a long shot.

There was word floating around that Coker had some issue with one of his legs yesterday. It certainly seemed that way to me when I watched him run on the field for those last minute snaps.

[rant]I know this will come up, but one thing that didn't surprise me but certainly supported my lack of respect for Griese as a color commentator was his comment that Saban had told Jake to warm up at the end of the first half. There's no way in hell that Griese knew that. He saw Coker throwing balls on the sidelines, sure. That doesn't mean a damn thing.

Then, Griese making his evaluations at the end of the game demonstrated how little he knew. Almost everything he said wasn't true. He did get one thing right. Jake has been playing slower, although tentative would have been a more accurate description.

Another gripe are the suppositions that Jake doesn't know the playbook. Here's a fact. Blake struggles with the terminology. That's something I shared with the staff here about two weeks ago and lo and behold we see Sims wearing a wrist band and Kiffin overtly pointing out which plays were being ran. [/rant]

[rant2]People getting upset because some have said "Bama can't reach the playoffs with Sims at QB?" Not now. No way. It's week freakin' one!!![/rant2]

HOWEVER, considering the whole story, he did a fairly good job.

——

I'm not singling you, or anyone, out with this statement.

It's week one and a lot fans are trying to take one games performance and say this is what it spells for the season—I find it asinine.

 

[mrchase]

The last 2 first time starters had GREAT first games and made no mistakes. .....:sarc:

 

[TheChief]

They actually did have pretty good games. The competition (more than likely, but we won't know until WV plays out their schedule) was probably a bit tougher as well.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

I know I have expressed more thoughts on Sims starting than not. For the record, it entirely based on the premise that CNS will start a QB that has been making the best decisions for evaluation. What else does he have to work with?

What I find frustrating is that we cannot possible perceive a guy with all kinds of talent not doing any better than Sims. Does Ryan Mallet come to mind? All I knew about that QB is that he could sling it well but to who is a whole other story. Now, considering the time Coker has had to be with the team and absorb the playbook, the odds were absolutely set against it starting. It doesn't mean it will not stay that way, it is just that way at this point.

What it all comes down to is that there is so much more that media & fan base doesn't see when determining the starting QB. Under CNS, the things that we do not get to see are held in higher regard than just the physical talent, the things that are typically lauded.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

Kent State was better than WVU?

Right

 

[mrchase]

They actually did have pretty good games. The competition (more than likely, but we won't know until WV plays out their schedule) was probably a bit tougher as well.

Greg opened up against Virgina Tech..... went 15/30 230 yds 1 TD 1 INT. ... missed 8 of his first 10 passes I think.

 

[mrchase]

Greg opened up against Virgina Tech..... went 15/30 230 yds 1 TD 1 INT. ... missed 8 of his first 10 passes I think.

I'll give Penn State as being AJ's first start.... 19/31 163 yds and 1 TD

 

[planomateo]

Greg opened up against Virgina Tech..... went 15/30 230 yds 1 TD 1 INT. ... missed 8 of his first 10 passes I think.

I'll give Penn State as being AJ's first start.... 19/31 163 yds and 1 TD

Yup, I suspect some just want to think of the glass as half empty vs half full.

I'll judge more of the team after the 2nd or 3rd week, that's usually when the biggest change happens.

 

[UAgrad93]

I graded a Blake a B+ and I stand by it. I do think that if we had gotten up by more than 10 early, Coker would've gotten in and played some significant amount of time. With the game hanging in the balance and Blake having done nothing to deserve the hook though, Coker wasn't coming in. I do think that with games versus Florida Atlantic and Southern Miss on the horizon, we will see more of a rotation between the two to give Coker a legit shot at winning the job.

 

[psychojoe]

They actually did have pretty good games. The competition (more than likely, but we won't know until WV plays out their schedule) was probably a bit tougher as well.

A J did not have much of a first game as a starter. He threw two picks, granted that one was on a tipped ball, versus Kent State. It was his steady play the next week at Penn State that earned him the #1. A J had some rough moments in 2011, and to me he did not really shine that season until the second LSU game.

Greg had some rough moments in that 2009 game against VT, and he had such a tough middle of the season that we struggled and had to win with defense a couple of games in mid season.

 

[jdpas29]

One thing I did notice that i forgot to bitch about... Many times there was a ton of confusion at the los before the snap. They got away with it Saturday but in a bigger, louder setting this could be really bad.

 

['Rogue']

After 5 years in the system. I give C-. Good thing we have great receivers. Sims just anit gonna get done, in my humble opinion.

 

[JoshB]

So we're officially, as fans, considering the quarterback competition over, PJ? That is regrettable. I find it difficult to imagine a quarterback with the seemingly outstanding physical talent of Coker not getting a real chance to display his talents on the actual stage. It's easy to say he wouldn't have done any better. We'll never know.

The competition was close until Friday night, and we see him hand off twice? I'm baffled.

There's more to this quarterback selection than we as fans are privy to learn. That is the only obvious conclusion I can draw.

Not to come off like Im just picking on you but man it seems like you just wanna argue the opposite of whatever the coaches do lately. For Gods Sake Henry and Yeldon combine for damn near 250 yards rushing and 3 TDs but that just simply wasnt enough for you because Drake didnt get enough touches....

They actually did have pretty good games. The competition (more than likely, but we won't know until WV plays out their schedule) was probably a bit tougher as well.

So either you're just once again trying to be contrarian for the sake of it or simply wrong. Not sure which it is. As already been said Greg missed 8 or 9 of his first passes and u wanna talk about AJ? Hmmmm lets compare AJ to Blake in their first game action as starters...

AJ: 14-32, 226 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT... against Kent freakin State....

Now lets look at that closer... one of your biggest whine... I mean complaints is that Coker didnt "get a chance"... Both Phillip Sims and AJ "got a chance" in that 2011 opener and they both played pretty lousy. AJ had a cpl good drives but I would gettin pulled so the other guy could get his reps prolly didnt help him much nor did it Phillip Sims. Now, lets say Blake gets pulled after the first three drives as AJ did and then Coker comes in and goes three and out or turns the ball over, the offense starts to stumble. Blake comes back in, now cold, and he begins to struggle. Guess what you would have done? Complained that Saban messed up the flow of the offense by switching out QBs. Lets further look at things...

AJ started first three drives of Kent State, those three dives went 8 plays for 36 yards (TD), 4 plays for 74 yards (TD), and then 5 plays for 13 yards (punt). P. Sims comes in, and after an initial TD drive in which Trent Richardson scored the next several drives went punt, punt, interception, field goal, interception, interception...

Blake's firs three drives were 7 plays for 45 yards (field goal), 14 plays for 95 yards (TD), and 3 plays for 6 yards (punt)... Sounds a hell of a lot like AJ's first three drives huh? With Blake remaining in the game the next few drives went TD, field goal, downs, TD, field goal... Now do we have any clue if the offense would have struggled after a QB change or would it have still run fairly smoothly? No clue whatsoever but dont you think maybe... just MAYBE past experience here could have led to Saban sticking with just one QB? But by all means continue to scream about the sky falling.