💬 Have your feelings or thoughts about Johnny Manziel changed at all since he left A&M?

[TerryP]

I felt no pity or any degree of sympathy about his collegiate career and the "issues" we seemed to read about daily. It's just not the cloth I'm cut from. Yet, as he continues down the road he's on I'll have to admit my feelings are changing a bit. Still, no pity. And certainly no sympathy. I have to admit, there is a sense of sadness while I continually run across articles like this one published on 247.

“He’s a druggie,” Paul Manziel told Anderson, per Adam Schefter’s Facebook page. “It’s not a secret that he’s a druggie. I don’t know what to say other than my son is a druggie and he needs help.

“He just hasn’t seeked it yet,” Manziel said. “Hopefully he doesn’t die before he comes to his senses. That’s about all you can say. I don’t know what else to say. I hate to say it but I hope he goes to jail. I mean, that would be the best place for him. So we’ll see.”
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More than a handful of us can sit here and say, "I told you so." We saw this coming a long, long time ago. That said, Aaron Suttles tweet last night is something we should consider taking to heart, IMO.



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I do wonder if he'd chosen to go to Texas and play safety—a position that's no where close to the spotlight a quarterback receives—if things would have ended up differently. Heck, I wonder how much the influence, or lack thereof, coming from Sumlin and his staff, has done as much harm as the environment in which he was reared.

 

[Bamabww]

I don't know if my thoughts have changed, whatever they may have been, since he left A&M but I hate to see any human life wasted and he's trying his best to waste his.

I wonder if his parents, while they still had "control" of him, at home ever told him 'No." I doubt it.

 

[planomateo]

I don't know enough about the situation, but it seems as if dad has used deals/incentives to keep Johnny on track (the Camaro is just one example, I'm sure there are many more). Parenting isn't easy, I imagine all parents regret decisions they made raising their kids. Can't help but wonder if Johnny's mom/dad have written this off on Johnny, on their parenting, or a little of both.

I disagree with Aaron's tweet. I don't hope/pray anything for Johnny to be honest, he's in a better situation than 95% of the people, millions of dollars, didn't come from a divorced/single parent situation, etc. I don't really laugh either. These are all decisions he's made, his parents have enabled. Let them hope/pray...not sure how that's gonna fix things though. They have to put a boot up his ass and the probably missed the opportunity.

 

[BamaFan334]

I don't feel sorry for the guy at all. He was hungry for the spotlight and did not handle it like a true star should. I stopped laughing years ago when I realized it was no longer stupid college actions. Now it'S getting past the point of hurting someone else that worries me. His domestic violence suit proves that point, but someone dying is next. It'll end up being an innocent party getting hurt before someone locks this bastard up. He is wreckless and clearly doesn't give a shit, so someone should make a decision for him regarding the law and incarceration.

 

[JoshB]

Thought he was an egomaniac, a narcissistic prick, a great athlete, a very below average passer, and a sure fire NFL bust that had everything in his life handed to him on a platinum (not silver or even gold) platter by his rich daddy... I still think that way about him.

Had he gone to Texas to play safety most of us would have never heard of him because he would be working in one of his daddies offices somewhere right now. I have no sympathy for him. I hate that he is a drug addict but he has had plenty of opportunities and chances to straighten himself out. There have been way too many people in his life that enabled him tho.

 

[bama alum]

Not a fan of hs at all, but Suttles' tweet is right.

 

[TUSKtimes]

He has gone from knucklehead to pothead at the speed of a meteorite burning through the evening sky. Total flameout on the horizon.

 

['65 Cobra]

A very dear friend of mine from up north dealt with a girl like this (she was from Connecticut and there was plenty of family money). He wasn't aware initially but she had bad addictions with alcohol, weed, coke, ecstasy (which I guess is Molly now) etc. Essentially, her addiction was that she had to stay numb, despite the presence of all the family wealth. Clearly some bad stuff happened to her along the way, but we didn't know what. When he first got with her, he had no idea what he was dealing with. She stayed fairly clean for a while sticking to moderate drinking, but almost daily weed. Eventually, she went full back. One time, she said "I need help." But then she quickly backed off. "I don't need any help. There's nothing wrong with me."

As we look back at the situation and having talked to some "experts," it is very clear. These people have to hit rock bottom (she was arrested twice, but it didn't do the trick - she even went to rehab once). There are no words in the language coming from someone else that will change such a person. They have to hit the bottom and make the decision on their own. Or not. Some never do. Johnny's Dad is spot on. It's sad, but there is nothing he can do to change Johnny. Johnny has to come to it on his own or it will never happen.

 

[Tidestalker]

I always liked him honestly... Even as an arrogant prick I loved how hard he played and how he gave his teammates confidence.

Now I just feel sympathy. Saw some pictures recently and he looks terrible. It seems super unlikely that he gets right before something really bad happens

 

[UAgrad93]

I always liked him honestly... Even as an arrogant prick I loved how hard he played and how he gave his teammates confidence.

Now I just feel sympathy. Saw some pictures recently and he looks terrible. It seems super unlikely that he gets right before something really bad happens

I have to agree with this right here. His play made his teammates better. Now, he is that wreck on the road that you can't help but look even though you know it is going to be gory.
I feel for Manziel the person.

 

[TerryP]

I feel for Manziel the person.

Is this an example of a guy who doesn't? I've seen Russ Mitchell troll for the simple act of just trolling. I'm reading this tweet and ... well, you be the judge.

 

[rueben]

I never prayed for him before, now I do.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I don't know if my thoughts have changed, whatever they may have been, since he left A&M but I hate to see any human life wasted and he's trying his best to waste his.

I wonder if his parents, while they still had "control" of him, at home ever told him 'No." I doubt it.

This. There was an interview with father and son while they were out playing golf. Son is drinking like a fish, not even of legal age yet, throwing tantrums over his game and Dad's just shrugging and gushing about what a competitor he is. Sh!tty Texas oil money has ruined many a family.

RTR,

Tim

 

[Che Boludo]

Art imitating life or life imitating art.

Time will tell, I guess, if he finds his redemption leading an all inmate team over the corrupt prison guards.

 

[rammerjammer]

Art imitating life or life imitating art.

Time will tell, I guess, if he finds his redemption leading an all inmate team over the corrupt prison guards.

That or have his ass filled full of semen by some 300 pound gorilla named Elijah for the next 8-10. That'll wake you up.

 

[TerryP]

That or have his ass filled full of semen by some 300 pound gorilla named Elijah for the next 8-10. That'll wake you up.

Weird night in ER there Doug?

 

[JoshB]

That or have his ass filled full of semen by some 300 pound gorilla named Elijah for the next 8-10. That'll wake you up.

Well that was a disturbing thought...

 

[rammerjammer]

Little back story.....I adopted my niece and nephew several years back. Both parents were druggies. My brother in law (kids father) was in and out of rehab and my mother in law was a huge enabler. Saving him from prison several times. Glad to say he got his crap together and his drug free for several years. Re-married and has a place in the kids lives. The last time he went to re-hab my mother in law's husband told her that very statement about her son. Said that'll make you want to quit drugs for sure.


On a side note every Tuesday I have to go over the local jail and take care of some the county's "finest" citizens. Nothing tells you that you picked the right profession like checking for anal fissures on an ass rape victim. You too can have an exciting career in the field of medicine. :moon:


Sorry, in this line of work, I forget that my filter is a little clogged sometimes.

 

[BamaFan334]

Little back story.....I adopted my niece and nephew several years back. Both parents were druggies. My brother in law (kids father) was in and out of rehab and my mother in law was a huge enabler. Saving him from prison several times. Glad to say he got his crap together and his drug free for several years. Re-married and has a place in the kids lives. The last time he went to re-hab my mother in law's husband told her that very statement about her son. Said that'll make you want to quit drugs for sure.


On a side note every Tuesday I have to go over the local jail and take care of some the county's "finest" citizens. Nothing tells you that you picked the right profession like checking for anal fissures on an ass rape victim. You too can have an exciting career in the field of medicine. :moon:


Sorry, in this line of work, I forget that my filter is a little clogged sometimes.

Sounds like fun, take pictures.