🏈 Has Gus Malzahn been fired yet? Official web site link (Stories are coming out about the validity of him being fired.)
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I was out on 280 early this morning early (Krispy Kreme) and Bobby passed me on the Harley. He had a tiger tail on hanging on the back of that FatBoy. It's happening.
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From Auburn fanbois Rob Pate:
I don’t want to write this column any more than you want to read it.
As are the overwhelming majority, I’m tired of repetitive columns longing for better days — high on negatives and low on superlatives.
There was no expectation of winning the 83rd Iron Bowl outside of the Auburn locker room. Alabama simply has far too much depth, elite players manning every single position on both sides of the ball, and will not play one game this season against a team that matches up favorably against their personnel.
Auburn played them about as well as possible for one half until the inevitable — the team with more players, more options, more development, more infrastructure, more committed to winning, more at stake, distanced themselves from us, their in-state rival. And it was done quickly, mercilessly, seemingly effortlessly.
After last season’s Iron Bowl victory there was much made of Auburn not just winning, but winning in dominant fashion. Bama saw that dominance and raised it exponentially. They left little doubt.
Nick Saban’s successes stem from his leadership skills: organizational structure, dogged work ethic, political savvy, media control and understanding, willingness to consider opposing points of view, constantly updating and evolving to improve. Sure, he has a built-in advantage in many ways, but he doesn’t stop one inch short of giving his players every tool possible to be the best.
He recruits the best players available. He surrounds those players with an infrastructure that can not only manage the egos of the best high school products in America, he makes them a better version of themselves as they leave finer finished products more times than not. He does it with coaches coming and going every season. He creates an environment of competition as opposed to entitlement. He considers the typical musts — physical dominance and mental toughness — but he addresses the spiritual, the psychological, the nutritional, the motivational. He understands how to get the most out of kids that have rarely been challenged on a football field.
He does zero things special on game days. He knows his “process” renders game day decisions obsolete much of the time.
I think Saban respects Gus Malzahn’s mind. In fact, I think Saban would love to have Gus on his staff — like every other coaching rehab success story that has endured Tuscaloosa. Gus was once more than a thorn in the side of Saban, he was Saban’s kryptonite not that long ago.
But Saban knows what Saban does best — control environments, lead and direct a vision, maintain a standard of excellence or sayonara — while Gus has no clue. (I’m a CEO, I’m a play-caller, I’m not a play-caller, etc.) Gus could have driven Saban absolutely nuts had he followed Saban’s example of trusting his coaches, evolving yearly to improve upon your base comfort zones, and playing fearlessly to win instead of playing fearful of losing.
The Gus Malzahn that “shoulda put up 60!” in Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2014 has become the Gus Malzahn that attempts to bleed 60 minutes off the clock in hopes of 'Bama not putting up that 60.
Would Alabama be in the position they are in 11 years after hiring a new coach if that coach had been Gus Malzahn? Would Auburn be 7-5 in Year 6 with Nick Saban as its head coach? I understand there aren’t other Nick Saban’s and the comparison is an unfair one to Gus Malzahn, but it helps me to understand why we stand where we stand.
Alabama recruits on another level, a level Auburn will never surpass. Alabama rarely, if ever, has holes it can’t fill with equal or better talent. Alabama rarely loses underclassmen players to foolish decisions regarding the draft. Alabama players are recognizable on NFL rosters every Sunday because they are developed at every position.
That blueprint is being copied and implemented to our east in Athens, Georgia. Point by point, Kirby Smart has paid attention and has decided imitation is the highest form of flattery. And he is building the only roster in this league capable of matching Alabama position by position.
That’s what we are up against. We can’t hide from it. We can’t deny it. We can’t wish it away. Our two biggest rivals are loading up, unified in their mission, determined to win big, and the results can’t be argued. We are in danger of being rendered powerless to compete versus the teams we must compete against if we dawdle.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. stated, “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” In my lifetime, when hard times come, Auburn people unite to restore pride and overcome difficulty in remarkable ways. It’s like clockwork — and it’s an enviable trait. Unfortunately, avoiding the challenges and controversies from the outset has not been mastered — but overcoming and using incredibly tough times as stepping stones rather than millstones is undoubtedly the Auburn way.
We are at one of those defining moments yet again. Is Gus Malzahn’s way the stepping stone to take Auburn to greater heights, or a millstone weighing down a proud program on a declining trajectory? It’s a remarkably unfortunate question to contemplate at the conclusion of Year 1 of a seven-year contract and Year 6 of his Auburn regime"
I don’t want to write this column any more than you want to read it.
As are the overwhelming majority, I’m tired of repetitive columns longing for better days — high on negatives and low on superlatives.
There was no expectation of winning the 83rd Iron Bowl outside of the Auburn locker room. Alabama simply has far too much depth, elite players manning every single position on both sides of the ball, and will not play one game this season against a team that matches up favorably against their personnel.
Auburn played them about as well as possible for one half until the inevitable — the team with more players, more options, more development, more infrastructure, more committed to winning, more at stake, distanced themselves from us, their in-state rival. And it was done quickly, mercilessly, seemingly effortlessly.
After last season’s Iron Bowl victory there was much made of Auburn not just winning, but winning in dominant fashion. Bama saw that dominance and raised it exponentially. They left little doubt.
Nick Saban’s successes stem from his leadership skills: organizational structure, dogged work ethic, political savvy, media control and understanding, willingness to consider opposing points of view, constantly updating and evolving to improve. Sure, he has a built-in advantage in many ways, but he doesn’t stop one inch short of giving his players every tool possible to be the best.
He recruits the best players available. He surrounds those players with an infrastructure that can not only manage the egos of the best high school products in America, he makes them a better version of themselves as they leave finer finished products more times than not. He does it with coaches coming and going every season. He creates an environment of competition as opposed to entitlement. He considers the typical musts — physical dominance and mental toughness — but he addresses the spiritual, the psychological, the nutritional, the motivational. He understands how to get the most out of kids that have rarely been challenged on a football field.
He does zero things special on game days. He knows his “process” renders game day decisions obsolete much of the time.
I think Saban respects Gus Malzahn’s mind. In fact, I think Saban would love to have Gus on his staff — like every other coaching rehab success story that has endured Tuscaloosa. Gus was once more than a thorn in the side of Saban, he was Saban’s kryptonite not that long ago.
But Saban knows what Saban does best — control environments, lead and direct a vision, maintain a standard of excellence or sayonara — while Gus has no clue. (I’m a CEO, I’m a play-caller, I’m not a play-caller, etc.) Gus could have driven Saban absolutely nuts had he followed Saban’s example of trusting his coaches, evolving yearly to improve upon your base comfort zones, and playing fearlessly to win instead of playing fearful of losing.
The Gus Malzahn that “shoulda put up 60!” in Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2014 has become the Gus Malzahn that attempts to bleed 60 minutes off the clock in hopes of 'Bama not putting up that 60.
Would Alabama be in the position they are in 11 years after hiring a new coach if that coach had been Gus Malzahn? Would Auburn be 7-5 in Year 6 with Nick Saban as its head coach? I understand there aren’t other Nick Saban’s and the comparison is an unfair one to Gus Malzahn, but it helps me to understand why we stand where we stand.
Alabama recruits on another level, a level Auburn will never surpass. Alabama rarely, if ever, has holes it can’t fill with equal or better talent. Alabama rarely loses underclassmen players to foolish decisions regarding the draft. Alabama players are recognizable on NFL rosters every Sunday because they are developed at every position.
That blueprint is being copied and implemented to our east in Athens, Georgia. Point by point, Kirby Smart has paid attention and has decided imitation is the highest form of flattery. And he is building the only roster in this league capable of matching Alabama position by position.
That’s what we are up against. We can’t hide from it. We can’t deny it. We can’t wish it away. Our two biggest rivals are loading up, unified in their mission, determined to win big, and the results can’t be argued. We are in danger of being rendered powerless to compete versus the teams we must compete against if we dawdle.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. stated, “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” In my lifetime, when hard times come, Auburn people unite to restore pride and overcome difficulty in remarkable ways. It’s like clockwork — and it’s an enviable trait. Unfortunately, avoiding the challenges and controversies from the outset has not been mastered — but overcoming and using incredibly tough times as stepping stones rather than millstones is undoubtedly the Auburn way.
We are at one of those defining moments yet again. Is Gus Malzahn’s way the stepping stone to take Auburn to greater heights, or a millstone weighing down a proud program on a declining trajectory? It’s a remarkably unfortunate question to contemplate at the conclusion of Year 1 of a seven-year contract and Year 6 of his Auburn regime"
He's wrong about one thing. I enjoyed reading it.
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JetGate’s Tommy Tuberville on Bob Stoops reports: ‘This is typical Auburn’
If there is anyone who knows what it’s like to be Auburn coach Gus Malzahn this week, it’s Tommy Tuberville.
Reports Auburn “powerbrokers” met with former Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops, first reported by Josh Moon, bring back memories of the infamous JetGate.
The year was 2003, and after dropping three straight SEC games, then-Auburn booster Bobby Lowder, Auburn President William Walker and athletic director David Housel flew to Louisville to gauge then-Cardinals coach Bobby Petrino’s interest in the Auburn job. The meeting took place prior to the 2003 Alabama game, which Auburn won.
Fast forward to 2018 and now reports surface that representatives have reached out to Stoops, which the former Sooners coach denies.
Tuberville joined me and Lee Shirvanian during “The Opening Kickoff” on WNSP-FM 105.5 to discuss the headlines of the past 24 hours at Auburn.
“Unbelievable, isn’t it?” Tuberville asked.
He said he had heard three weeks ago that there “was someone” visiting Stoops, but said it was not a credible source. “It was just kind of rumor.”
That’s not to say he dismisses it.
“There’s problems in Auburn,” said Tuberville, who led the Tigers to an undefeated season in 2004. "There’s always been problems in Auburn. And, for some reason, they will continue to be problems in Auburn.
"That being said, the things I’m hearing out of Auburn is if they do pay Gus Malzahn $32 million (for a buyout), they want to have somebody in place that can settle the troops down.
“It’s a complete mess, to be honest with you. There are too many people up there trying to make a decision. Obviously, they don’t have a clue what they are doing.”
Tuberville isn’t necessarily bitter. He “survived the storm” as he put it, running off six straight wins against Alabama. Still, the week leading up to the 2003 Iron Bowl was no picnic. He has a pretty good idea what Malzahn is going through this week.
“You feel like you’re out on an island,” he explained. "There’s no boat. There’s no life preserver to get to a safe place. You’re just there. No one is talking to you. You have your assistants, but they’re out on the road. He probably doesn’t have anyone really talking to you.
“When I had my JetGate it was during the week of the Iron Bowl. I couldn’t get people I talked to 24 hours before on the phone or into their office. ... You’re closed out.”
Tuberville made it clear that he has no idea what the future holds for the Auburn head coaching position. He simply can relate. In addition, he isn’t sure who wants to step into the current situation on the Plains.
“I don’t know anyone out there that wants to get into this mess,” Tuberville said. "Do you think Bob Stoops wants to get into this mess? He dropped a better job than this.
“Jeff Brohm would be my first choice. He could get the job done. Is it good enough to catch the runaway train in Georgia and Alabama? No, because no one is going to catch them.”
Tuberville insists you don’t necessarily have to compete with Saban and Smart, you just have to make Auburn the best it can be.
“You want somebody to come in and run Auburn like it needs to be run,” he explained. "Get people on your side. Help raise money. Make Auburn the best you can make it. And, if you can beat the people you need to beat, then you beat them.
“You can’t beat them with everyone trying to add their own ingredient on how they think things ought to be run. You can’t do it.”
JetGate’s Tommy Tuberville on Bob Stoops reports: ‘This is typical Auburn’
If there is anyone who knows what it’s like to be Auburn coach Gus Malzahn this week, it’s Tommy Tuberville.
Reports Auburn “powerbrokers” met with former Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops, first reported by Josh Moon, bring back memories of the infamous JetGate.
The year was 2003, and after dropping three straight SEC games, then-Auburn booster Bobby Lowder, Auburn President William Walker and athletic director David Housel flew to Louisville to gauge then-Cardinals coach Bobby Petrino’s interest in the Auburn job. The meeting took place prior to the 2003 Alabama game, which Auburn won.
Fast forward to 2018 and now reports surface that representatives have reached out to Stoops, which the former Sooners coach denies.
Tuberville joined me and Lee Shirvanian during “The Opening Kickoff” on WNSP-FM 105.5 to discuss the headlines of the past 24 hours at Auburn.
“Unbelievable, isn’t it?” Tuberville asked.
He said he had heard three weeks ago that there “was someone” visiting Stoops, but said it was not a credible source. “It was just kind of rumor.”
That’s not to say he dismisses it.
“There’s problems in Auburn,” said Tuberville, who led the Tigers to an undefeated season in 2004. "There’s always been problems in Auburn. And, for some reason, they will continue to be problems in Auburn.
"That being said, the things I’m hearing out of Auburn is if they do pay Gus Malzahn $32 million (for a buyout), they want to have somebody in place that can settle the troops down.
“It’s a complete mess, to be honest with you. There are too many people up there trying to make a decision. Obviously, they don’t have a clue what they are doing.”
Tuberville isn’t necessarily bitter. He “survived the storm” as he put it, running off six straight wins against Alabama. Still, the week leading up to the 2003 Iron Bowl was no picnic. He has a pretty good idea what Malzahn is going through this week.
“You feel like you’re out on an island,” he explained. "There’s no boat. There’s no life preserver to get to a safe place. You’re just there. No one is talking to you. You have your assistants, but they’re out on the road. He probably doesn’t have anyone really talking to you.
“When I had my JetGate it was during the week of the Iron Bowl. I couldn’t get people I talked to 24 hours before on the phone or into their office. ... You’re closed out.”
Tuberville made it clear that he has no idea what the future holds for the Auburn head coaching position. He simply can relate. In addition, he isn’t sure who wants to step into the current situation on the Plains.
“I don’t know anyone out there that wants to get into this mess,” Tuberville said. "Do you think Bob Stoops wants to get into this mess? He dropped a better job than this.
“Jeff Brohm would be my first choice. He could get the job done. Is it good enough to catch the runaway train in Georgia and Alabama? No, because no one is going to catch them.”
Tuberville insists you don’t necessarily have to compete with Saban and Smart, you just have to make Auburn the best it can be.
“You want somebody to come in and run Auburn like it needs to be run,” he explained. "Get people on your side. Help raise money. Make Auburn the best you can make it. And, if you can beat the people you need to beat, then you beat them.
“You can’t beat them with everyone trying to add their own ingredient on how they think things ought to be run. You can’t do it.”
JetGate’s Tommy Tuberville on Bob Stoops reports: ‘This is typical Auburn’
There are a lot of things I don't care for when it comes to Gus—strictly from a football point of view.
There are things that have grated on my nerves a bit with Gus—from a personal view when he's said some things I thought were indicative of a prick.
But.
The Auburn PR machine, through the media, to do this? It's just sad. Almost embarrassing in a empathetic sort of way.
Now I don't know which is worse. Is the media being camped out filming Franklin as he's cleaning out his office and packing his truck more despicable than spreading down right lies about Gus and his future?
There are things that have grated on my nerves a bit with Gus—from a personal view when he's said some things I thought were indicative of a prick.
But.
The Auburn PR machine, through the media, to do this? It's just sad. Almost embarrassing in a empathetic sort of way.
Now I don't know which is worse. Is the media being camped out filming Franklin as he's cleaning out his office and packing his truck more despicable than spreading down right lies about Gus and his future?
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It appears Gus's contract has some issues that aren't as clear as perhaps we have been told. Would a COLLEGE pay 32 million to send a football coach packing? If so then Gus is a fool for not making them pay him today and leave. Gus and Gene on the SEC Network would be a good team. The AU crowd is looking to TitleTown (as usual) but their main problem is Kirby and the Dawgs. The barn has to get elite talent from Metro-Atlanta to play well and Kirby has ended that program for the most part. If UGA and Bama are up then AU will be down.
It really took some stupid people to sign Gus to that contract (any coach for that matter). The 7 million is fine but to have a buyout that high is unreal.
It really took some stupid people to sign Gus to that contract (any coach for that matter). The 7 million is fine but to have a buyout that high is unreal.
Gus is an idiot!! 2019 schedule looks to have 6-7 losses on it. No way in HELL would I have accepted the terms. Just fire my ass for $32 million and I will go to ESPN for 2-3 seasons then jump back in elsewhere. Instead, Gus gets neutered and told that he can't fire anyone on his staff, no buyouts for the staff, and you will take a smaller buyout if you want to remain here as HC. What does the egotistical son of a bitch do? He agrees!!!!
...and Mack Brown has been a great addition to the ESPN crew.
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