🏈 ESPN reports on Ohio State--a story that hasn't gone quietly in the good night.

[TUSKtimes]

I'm sure his past behaviors aren't anythinig he considers "flattering to talk about" which is why he pathologically lies about said behaviors.

In Brennan's article she mentioned practicing what you're preaching. We've got a decade of seeing and hearing "do what I say" not "do what I'm doing." I have a real difficult time simply categorizing this as "imbalance." I can easily see the desire to be a perfectionist lead to an obsessive behavior, not a pathological one.

Which takes me back to my first comment, "this behavior doesn't exonerate Meyers and his "lying." Just explaining "how he left Florida," emotionally broken. Personally, I'm going to be just as surprised if Ohio State fires this guy as Herbie was when the playoff committee put Bama in and not the Buckeyes. There's always the chance that something else comes up when the investigative committee goes digging, but if not, I think they probably keep him, lies and all.

 

[TerryP]

Which takes me back to my first comment, "this behavior doesn't exonerate Meyers and his "lying." Just explaining "how he left Florida," emotionally broken

I don't buy emotionally broken no matter what his wife, his daughter, or he says. "When the going got tough, Urbs got to runnin'." Not my words. Those are from several who cover UF. It's their belief that he knew what he was looking forward to in '10 and beyond and he 'cut his losses and ran.' If we can agree with the word unstable, I'm all with you. To me, the assertion he was broken goes hand in hand with being self-aware. I don't see that now and didn't see it back then.

Personally, I'm going to be just as surprised if Ohio State fires this guy as Herbie was when the playoff committee put Bama in and not the Buckeyes.

Herbie's walk-off was a joke. He's admitted to such on several occasions because he'd made the comment off the cuff before the CFP polls were halfway through the season.

Either way Ohio State moves won't shock me. They've got the chance to come out of this with only a bruise compared to what might become something a lot worse if a few in the media decide they won't let this go. Now we're into personal motivations from media members and that's a murky puddle to be wading through. After all, we're seeing this from two main characters right now; McMurphy and Snook.

There's always the chance that something else comes up when the investigative committee goes digging, but if not, I think they probably keep him, lies and all.

It'll have to come up quickly. This "investigation" is pretty much over except for dotting i's and crossing t's.

**It's my personal belief one of the reasons Meyer jumped at the OSU job was a feeling that he'd be under less scrutiny. It just so happens he chose to coach in a division that's ripe with scandal and under a lot of scrutiny. For his coaching acumen a large part of me wants to see him on the sidelines. Will this story have the shelf life of Woody's hitting the Clemson player? That's yet to be determined. In this generation...?

 

[TUSKtimes]

I don't buy emotionally broken no matter what his wife, his daughter, or he says. "When the going got tough, Urbs got to runnin'." Not my words. Those are from several who cover UF. It's their belief that he knew what he was looking forward to in '10 and beyond and he 'cut his losses and ran.' If we can agree with the word unstable, I'm all with you. To me, the assertion he was broken goes hand in hand with being self-aware. I don't see that now and didn't see it back then.

Semantics, Terry, I'm not trying to diagnose him, just explain what he said about himself. He has admitted to having mental illness. That's not a deal breaker, a lot of successful people are successful, including a bunch of presidents, past, and present, actors, comedians, football coaches, only because they are hardwired that way. The trade off a lot of times is that other aspects of their life start looking like those "Big Bang Theory" guys. A lot of gifts in a few areas and not so much elsewhere.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Zach Smith Ordered Sex Toys to Ohio State Offices, Had Sex With Staffer, Took Nude Photos at White House

It's really hard to imagine a guy practicing this much perversion and being this bold about it could keep it away from Urban all these years. Everything just says he's way too stupid to pull it off.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

This thing getting uglier...as they dig

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Zach Smith Ordered Sex Toys to Ohio State Offices, Had Sex With Staffer, Took Nude Photos at White House

It's really hard to imagine a guy practicing this much perversion and being this bold about it could keep it away from Urban all these years. Everything just says he's way too stupid to pull it off.

I believe the deal with Earl Bruce is the only reason this guy wasn't booted years back and add in the fact the family wanted to keep it all on the down low has added to Urban's problems. It is possible he did just what the family told him they wanted done...well make that most of the family. It appears Little Missy has changed her mind these days.

 

[TerryP]

 

[TerryP]

 

[planomateo]

Bigger question, is keeping Zach on the coaching staff a violation of NCAA rules/bylaws... I think Mark May is reaching.

Updated (April 2018) 7 page PDF on the topic.

NCAA Division I Bylaw 11.1.1.1 states that a head coach is presumed to be responsible for the actions of all staff members who report, directly or indirectly, to the head coach. The head coach will be held accountable for violations in the program unless he or she can rebut the presumption of responsibility.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

So......if Urban was let go.....what would be his path in coaching....
In life...he has money....and reputation?

 

[sportsdame]

If they keep Urban, they have to be prepared to handle the uproar from a strong segment of people that will not let this issue go. Just imagine those interviews Urban will have to give trying to explain his actions in this mess. .lol

 

[#80]

If they keep him and I expect they will you have to wonder about his psyche moving forward.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

If they keep him and i expect they will you have to wonder about his psyche moving forward.

JMO but he has had time to get over this deal already. He already knows why they keep the guy around for so long and he knows why the couples family wanted it to go away as well. You can spin it anyway you wish but it still comes down to the husband and wife and how they involved the others into THEIR MESS.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

All this plus being on probation around 2012....prez may wonder how to clean up image

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

 

[#80]

And time served meaning he would return immediately.

 

[alabama mike]

Hearing today from some OSU fans that he, Meyer, may be given a suspension. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[alabama mike]

Channel 10 TV, WBNS out of Columbus is carrying a live feed on FB. A decision on Meyer is expected at 8 pm EST.

 

[alabama mike]

@TerryP that should be Touchdown AL A BAMA A!

 

[TerryP]

@alabama mike, thanks