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Don't expect a sophomore slump from Jalen Hurts

Jalen Hurts put himself in stellar company with the numbers he put up as a freshman last year.

Comparing the numbers Hurts put up in 2016 to those put up by quarterbacks who threw at least 100 passes in a season since 2000 using Euclidean distance produces plenty of impressive names. Among the 25 most similar seasons to Hurts’ freshman year were the freshman seasons of J.T. Barrett (2014) and Marcus Mariota (2012), along with the final seasons of Tim Tebow (2009), Collin Klein (2012), Terrelle Pryor (2010) and Vince Young (2005).

In a way, Hurts played last year like a seasoned veteran. Of the 100 most similar seasons to Hurts’ freshman year since 2000, 64 came from upperclassmen (juniors and seniors) with only nine coming from freshmen. And the way those eight freshmen played as sophomores bodes well for Hurts in 2017 and doesn’t see him having much of a sophomore slump.

This group is made up of mostly those who, like Hurts, were major-conference dual-threat quarterbacks — Barrett, Mariota, Wyoming’s Brett Smith, Minnesota’s Adam Weber, South Florida’s Matt Grothe, Missouri’s Brad Smith, Central Michigan’s Dan LeFevour and Southern Mississippi’s Austin Davis. As sophomores, they didn’t rack up as many yards but were more efficient throwing and running the ball.
They went from an average of 3,457.2 total yards (2,770.2 passing, 687.0 rushing) to 3,101 (2,445.5 passing, 655.6 rushing) and from 30.6 total touchdowns (22.8 pass, 7.8 rush) to 28.0 total touchdowns (18.3 pass, 9.8 rush). But their collective completion percentage improved (from 61.1% to 62.9%), as did their yards per pass (from 7.2 to 7.3), TD-to-INT ratio (from 2.2 to 2.6) and yards per carry (from 4.5 to 4.9).

Freshman seasons most similar to Jalen Hurts' 2016 season (since 2000, min. 100 passes)

J.T. Barrett
Ohio State
2014

Marcus Mariota
Oregon
2012

Brett Smith
Wyoming
2011

Adam Weber
Minnesota
2007

Matt Grothe
South Florida
2006

Brad Smith
Missouri
2002

Dan LeFevour
Central Michigan
2006

Austin Davis
Southern Miss
2008

Hurts, the SEC Offensive Player of the Year last season, became just the second freshman since 2000 to have at least 2,000 passing yards, 20 passing touchdowns, 900 rushing yards and 10 rushing touchdowns in the season. The other was Johnny Manziel, who did it in his Heisman-winning 2012 campaign. Hurts also had 55.92 pass EPA (Expected Points Added) last season, sixth-most among freshmen. Thanks in large part to Hurts, Bo Scarbrough and Damien Harris, Alabama will be one of two teams returning at least 50 pass EPA and 50 rush EPA this upcoming season, the other being South Florida.

The only real ā€œslumpsā€ came from Barrett and Davis and they weren’t totally at fault for their dip in production. Barrett spent much of his sophomore season in 2015 battling for the starting quarterback job with Cardale Jones while Davis missed the last seven games of the 2009 season with a foot injury. Both came back extremely strong as juniors, with Barrett leading the Buckeyes back to the College Football Playoff last year and Davis totaling more than 3,500 total yards while scoring 30 total touchdowns in 2010.

But the Crimson Tide bring back just 84.67 receiving EPA, the 80th-most in the nation. Three of their four pass-catchers who had at least 10 receiving EPA last season are gone, with ArDarius Stewart (50.34 receiving EPA), O.J. Howard (23.31) and Gehrig Dieter (19.59) wrapping up their college careers in 2016. Hurts will still have Calvin Ridley at his disposal but his 44.77 receiving EPA is more than the rest of the returning receivers’ total last year combined (39.90). And that’s not to mention that when Alabama opens the season in Atlanta against Florida State in September, it will be doing so with its third offensive coordinator in its last three games.

As history has shown us, however, players who have the type of freshman season Hurts just had aren’t the kind who slump as sophomores. In fact, Hurts is projected to improve his numbers in many ways this year. He is projected to throw for 2,396.2 yards and 19.4 touchdowns this regular season, assuming he starts all 12 games, along with 641.1 rushing yards and 9.7 rushing touchdowns. On a per-game basis, that’s a bump from 185.3 passing yards per game to 199.7.

While his completion percentage (62.8% last year, projected to be 62.3% this year) and yards per carry (5.0 last year, projected to be 4.9 this year) aren’t expected to waver much from 2016, Hurts is projected to see a notable increase in his TD-to-INT ratio (from 2.6 to 3.1), yards per pass (from 7.3 to 7.7) and rush touchdown percentage (scored on 6.8% of carries last year, projected to be 7.4% this year).

In other words, Hurts might not see sizable increases in his raw yardage or touchdown totals this year. But, even as he adjusts to life under another new offensive coordinator without many of his top targets from last season, Hurts is projected to be even more efficient than he was in 2016.
 
Hurts could improve and not have the stats he enjoyed his freshman campaign. If we go more conservative it may be that others make the difference, but it could be more about style than anything associated with a slump.
 
Sorry guys - this does not cheer me up. I want more yards per catch, not having to depend on YAC for the yardage. I want more total yards passing. I hope he can do it, or that Tua steps in. Except for FSU, maybe the SEC championship, and the playoff games, Jalen doesn't have to improve at ALL. Against top notch talent (eg Clemson) if Hurts can't spread a defense out and execute deep throws, it will kill our defense like it did against Clemson. Jalen did great last year and I have no complaints, but the facts are the facts.
 
Sorry guys - this does not cheer me up. I want more yards per catch, not having to depend on YAC for the yardage. I want more total yards passing. I hope he can do it, or that Tua steps in. Except for FSU, maybe the SEC championship, and the playoff games, Jalen doesn't have to improve at ALL. Against top notch talent (eg Clemson) if Hurts can't spread a defense out and execute deep throws, it will kill our defense like it did against Clemson. Jalen did great last year and I have no complaints, but the facts are the facts.


STFU
 
Sorry guys - this does not cheer me up. I want more yards per catch, not having to depend on YAC for the yardage. I want more total yards passing. I hope he can do it, or that Tua steps in. Except for FSU, maybe the SEC championship, and the playoff games, Jalen doesn't have to improve at ALL. Against top notch talent (eg Clemson) if Hurts can't spread a defense out and execute deep throws, it will kill our defense like it did against Clemson. Jalen did great last year and I have no complaints, but the facts are the facts.

You just complained about more yards per catch, total yards passing, that he cant spread a defense, and cant execute deep balls and then say you have no complaints... your entire post was a complaint.
 
You just complained about more yards per catch, total yards passing, that he cant spread a defense, and cant execute deep balls and then say you have no complaints... your entire post was a complaint.

Well Bird, you just gonna criticize, or would you have something constructive to add or debate?? Between you and SLO, geez.

Actually no, it wasn't a complaint it was a CONCERN over the article's conclusions. I think Jalen did great last year (no complaints - he was a pure freshman and set records and led us to the championship). But he DIDN'T spread LSU, or Florida, or Washington, or Clemson. He didn't execute deep balls, in general. So those are OBSERVATIONS, not complaints. The article is talking about this COMING year, and we need Hurts to improve. We could get beat bad by FSU, and if we take care of business, we'll play for, and probably win, the SEC again, and be in the playoff again. But what from there? We are so spoiled that we don't care about that - we EXPECT that. What we all WANT is another natty, and if Hurts doesn't improve it could cost us a championship. I don't think that was his job last year - there was no way to expect that. Kiffin, nor Sarkisian, did Hurts any favors in the last 3 games. And there should have been hope perhaps, but certainly not expectation, that he could do it all for us as a freshman. But not only can we not afford a slump from him, we need him to improve greatly as a passer.

The article talks about expectations for improvement, and says that in most areas there should be improvement, based on other QBs and the analytics. But if Hurts only increases from 7.3 to 7.7 YPA throwing, with Ridley and others as targets, and against the defenses we will face (FSU and LSU will be the only really good ones before the SEC championship) it's going to mean that he HASN'T improved his downfield passing. That's why I really want to see him improve his YPA - YAC is great, but if he improves total yards passing, and YPA, it will mean he is passing down field better, and that's what it takes for this offense to be good enough to win a championship. It can't ALL be on the defense, and we saw that against Clemson. If Hurts grows into a better passer, he will TRULY be a dual threat QB, and our chances of winning it all go up tremendously. If the article's analytics are accurate, the improvement the article expects probably won't be enough to win it all.
 
I have a friend that is a HS coach and he has a kid that has been offered by BAMA. He was with him on campus last weekend for their Junior Day. He talked at length with Coach Key, the kid being recruited is an Olineman. Key told him that Hurts got little to no coaching from Kiffin after the Miss State game. He said Kiffin cashed it in, knowing he was a lame duck and was gone regardless. He said that Sark wasn't much better either. He said that their "laid back California" style rubbed the staff and Saban the wrong way.
As for Daboll, Key said that he gives the impression of a leader and a guy demanding the offense be "on the same page" at all times.

We can sit here all day and throw stats as to what Jalen did. The problem is, Jalen didn't have much success beyond 15-20 yards. Most of his yards and completions came via the "jet or pop" pass and bubble screens. I'm not knocking Jalen one bit, the kid did what was asked of him. A tilt toward a more pro style attack will demand better accuracy and likely less of the "jet" passes and bubbles.
 
He talked at length with Coach Key, the kid being recruited is an Olineman. Key told him that Hurts got little to no coaching from Kiffin after the Miss State game. He said Kiffin cashed it in, knowing he was a lame duck and was gone regardless
There's one point about Kiff that it seems a lot of people miss... He's a play-caller, not a fundamentals, quarterback coach.
 
I know if Jalen could have bottled the Miss St game he would have been anyone's equal through the air. He threw for 350 yards and frankly, that game is all Jalen has to execute to be everything we need him to be against our toughest opponents. How in the world would Jalen not be better his sophomore year? We expect all our freshmen to make a leap, but we wonder if the freshman of the year has got it in him? Really weird stuff.
 
I love the complaint he couldn't spread this defense or that defense

How did he score on those long TD runs? By spreading the defense and then making them pay with his speed and athleticism

He scored the only TD against that LSU defense. He engineered and scored what should have been the winning TD with less than 4 minutes in the National Championship game. He was a damn freshman. Does he need to improve his accuracy? yep Does he need to work on his reads/throw/don't throw instincts? yep

Folks who are thinking Tua walks in and takes the starting job from a kid who went 14-1 as a freshman are not only silly they are disrespectful of one of the best freshman seasons I've witnessed in 40+ years of watching Bama football.
 
I love the complaint he couldn't spread this defense or that defense

How did he score on those long TD runs? By spreading the defense and then making them pay with his speed and athleticism

He scored the only TD against that LSU defense. He engineered and scored what should have been the winning TD with less than 4 minutes in the National Championship game. He was a damn freshman. Does he need to improve his accuracy? yep Does he need to work on his reads/throw/don't throw instincts? yep

Folks who are thinking Tua walks in and takes the starting job from a kid who went 14-1 as a freshman are not only silly they are disrespectful of one of the best freshman seasons I've witnessed in 40+ years of watching Bama football.

Thank you.
 

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