📝 Division I Council extends recruiting dead period through May 31:

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[BamaFan334]

Still have zero clue why teams and staff can travel, kids can go back on campus, yet recruits can't go on visits. Makes zero sense.

This last class atleast had Junior visits and camps, but this current class hasn't had that. They don't know campus like the classes before them.

 

[mando]

More inconsistent nonsense. Gotta make someone believe you are doing something because well you are providing leadership. Adults couldn't possibly be expected to make decisions on their own smh.

 

[TerryP]

Still have zero clue why teams and staff can travel, kids can go back on campus, yet recruits can't go on visits. Makes zero sense.

More inconsistent nonsense

It's not consistent. There are few states where the Covid rules in place mirror each other. Compare Florida and Georgia.

The last time I looked USC and UCLA won't have students back on campus until the fall. New Mexico games were moved to Arizona (as one location.) The NCAA still hasn't made their decision about whether fans will be allowed to watch the tournament in person next month. Should we expect recruiting to be "full blown" when everything else is still running at half-speed?

Normally (using football, FBS and FCS, as examples) programs are in the quiet period. Considering we have campuses on both levels still restricted the NCAA's views are "this is not a level playing field for a player to be able to visit one school and not another."

It's put a crimp in several SEC schools this past class. While schools are still landing top classes their "influencers" on campus have essentially been killed for almost a year.

And personally, I don't mind that in a lot of cases.

 

[mando]

It's not consistent. There are few states where the Covid rules in place mirror each other. Compare Florida and Georgia.

The last time I looked USC and UCLA won't have students back on campus until the fall. New Mexico games were moved to Arizona (as one location.) The NCAA still hasn't made their decision about whether fans will be allowed to watch the tournament in person next month. Should we expect recruiting to be "full blown" when everything else is still running at half-speed?

Normally (using football, FBS and FCS, as examples) programs are in the quiet period. Considering we have campuses on both levels still restricted the NCAA's views are "this is not a level playing field for a player to be able to visit one school and not another."

It's put a crimp in several SEC schools this past class. While schools are still landing top classes their "influencers" on campus have essentially been killed for almost a year.

And personally, I don't mind that in a lot of cases.

In general there are inconsistencies. Opening up on campus visits in a controlled way would not be crazy in my opinion. With inconsistencies I am really thinking about a broader view. Businesses opening in California but no church services things like that. In the sports world the coaches have to have masks on during the game but turn around and pull them off during a break or off the court. They will then fly or drive with their teams and I suspect not have their mask on but could be wrong. There are likely safe ways to open up recruiting.

 

[Max]

In general there are inconsistencies. Opening up on campus visits in a controlled way would not be crazy in my opinion. With inconsistencies I am really thinking about a broader view. Businesses opening in California but no church services things like that. In the sports world the coaches have to have masks on during the game but turn around and pull them off during a break or off the court. They will then fly or drive with their teams and I suspect not have their mask on but could be wrong. There are likely safe ways to open up recruiting.

Sure there are safe ways. But one state isn't the same as another, one school isn't the same as another, and on down the line. The Lady Blue Devils have canceled their season. Are they on the same recruiting trail as the Lady Tarheels?

 

[BamaFan334]

It's not consistent. There are few states where the Covid rules in place mirror each other. Compare Florida and Georgia.

The last time I looked USC and UCLA won't have students back on campus until the fall. New Mexico games were moved to Arizona (as one location.) The NCAA still hasn't made their decision about whether fans will be allowed to watch the tournament in person next month. Should we expect recruiting to be "full blown" when everything else is still running at half-speed?

Normally (using football, FBS and FCS, as examples) programs are in the quiet period. Considering we have campuses on both levels still restricted the NCAA's views are "this is not a level playing field for a player to be able to visit one school and not another."

It's put a crimp in several SEC schools this past class. While schools are still landing top classes their "influencers" on campus have essentially been killed for almost a year.

And personally, I don't mind that in a lot of cases.

But they still let USC and UCLA play football. This is where the NCAA pisses me off in their decision making. I am on the player's side in this argument, because the NCAA did what it had to do to create revenue for themselves this past football season, with everything, but now they want to close shop on recruiting? Just doesn't jive. if there was money in it for them they'd open it up, but since kids will be recruited regardless then they can keep it closed and look "responsible", but then open the floodgates back up come football season.

I'm not so much worried about their basketball rules and decisions when discussing this, because I'm keeping it within one sport. They allowed the conferences to come up with seating capacity, so they didn't even weigh in on that from what I recall. on top of it, they found a way to move the Rose Bowl and everything that went with that to make their money.

 

[BamaFan334]

Sure there are safe ways. But one state isn't the same as another, one school isn't the same as another, and on down the line. The Lady Blue Devils have canceled their season. Are they on the same recruiting trail as the Lady Tarheels?

That appears to be an institutional problem. That's not a North Carolina issue, it's a Duke issue. That institution will need to put their heads together and try to figure out if they are ok with their school taking a step back due to their decisions. In all seriousness, what other big time programs have quit? Just because one school like Duke quits, doesn't mean another school like North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas should be penalized or forced to take that step backwards. There are thousands of future careers on the line here. Tens of thousands if you want to talk players, staff, and athletic department futures.

 

[TerryP]

I'm not so much worried about their basketball rules and decisions when discussing this, because I'm keeping it within one sport. They allowed the conferences to come up with seating capacity, so they didn't even weigh in on that from what I recall. on top of it, they found a way to move the Rose Bowl and everything that went with that to make their money.

Just to be fair it wasn't conferences or schools who came up with seating capacity; those were individual state decisions where schools had to follow the guidelines their local government established. (A&M was at 30%, Tennessee at 25%, and so on.)

* A side note: That Rose Bowl move/story hasn't gone as smoothly as you may think. We talked a little about this, before the move was officially announced, wondering how the "name" could be moved.

Tournament of Roses sues Pasadena over Rose Bowl naming rights

Federal lawsuit asks the courts to define exactly who owns the naming rights to the iconic Rose Bowl Game.

www.pasadenastarnews.com

 

[BamaFan334]

Just to be fair it wasn't conferences or schools who came up with seating capacity; those were individual state decisions where schools had to follow the guidelines their local government established. (A&M was at 30%, Tennessee at 25%, and so on.)

* A side note: That Rose Bowl move/story hasn't gone as smoothly as you may think. We talked a little about this, before the move was officially announced, wondering how the "name" could be moved.

Tournament of Roses sues Pasadena over Rose Bowl naming rights

Federal lawsuit asks the courts to define exactly who owns the naming rights to the iconic Rose Bowl Game.

www.pasadenastarnews.com

Yeah, I had noticed that lawsuit. I could be 100% wrong, but I do not recall the Rose Bowl logo or "Grandaddy Of Them All" on any of the merchandise. I guess they did use the logo on the field. Just curious how the city thinks they own the game over the non-profit that holds the trademarks to the logo, name, and other things associated?

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Guess its a bit confusing to DA like me...
@TerryP ...you say its a state issue on football game attendance...but Lsu allowed 25% and saints...zero.... other nfl teams had some attendees...so its not nfl
...andkids not being able making visits...is just enhancing the power recruiting schools... just committing on programs reputation.... i think that's what we agree is good for bama/osu/ok/Clemson...and terrible for new coaches in place..Tennessee/AU..

@12gage if Lady blue devils walk away...for "player safety". Why isnt it unsafe for men blue devils to play....
I guess same argument as walmart open/ churches closed...


and the mask mandate...and seating in bball separated...and then huddle up...and no mask/sometimes mask/no mask...
Or stadiums with people seperated around lower bowl of stadium...and uppers empty ( not all but some).... for appearance?

just stupid more than confusing...

 

[TerryP]

@TerryP ...you say its a state issue on football game attendance...but Lsu allowed 25% and saints...zero.... other nfl teams had some attendees...so its not nfl

The Saints opened the season with zero fans. That changed as the season progressed. Out of the 32 teams only 13 played the entire season with no fans allowed. You can see the states influence in a lot of these situations.

Out of the 13 teams, three are in California. UCLA and USC didn't allow families to attend this season as I recall. Three are from NY. (Does that shock you?) I remember Cuomo saying "no fans" at the end of the summer for college teams in that state.

 

[mando]

Thus the inconsistencies with each state/organization having different rules, this is ideology driven or more accurately political. If you are a leader in a state or organizations and you have a particular leaning then the policies you put in place will follow. What should happen is that it is based on the best medical knowledge we can assess with politics removed but that is never going to happen. In the covid case the medical info was not well understood because it was so new and in our political climate we were not prepared for that. To much distrust was already in place. This resulted in every time new information was learned and positions changed distrust grew.