🏈 December's firings

[Nate]

Mark Richt has 90 wins in 9 seasons. That's an average of 10 wins/year. He's a very good coach. He's not great and he's not mediocre. You wanna know who a mediocre coach is? Tommy Bowden at Clemson. The only knocks on Richt are UF owns him and he doesn't have a NC. He's 50-22 in SEC play for crying out loud with his worst finish being 4-4. He's gone to 3 BCS games in 9 years.

I really would hate to see what you guys say about Saban if Bama goes 9-3 this season. Granted, I don't think that happens.

a.)Tommy Bowden doesn't coach at Clemson
b.) UGA has been talent rich, they should be winning 12 games a year consistently, but thanks to COACHING they aren't, they in fact are losing out on talent they COULD have because of it too. take Blake Sims for example.
c.) Saban has been to 2 BCS games in 3 years, and won a NC, if he does go 9-3 I wouldn't worry about it, because he has SHOWN he has the ability to be GREAT, and its very obvious he is the hardest working coach in the NCAA.

 

[TideAlum05]

a.)Tommy Bowden doesn't coach at Clemson
b.) UGA has been talent rich, they should be winning 12 games a year consistently, but thanks to COACHING they aren't, they in fact are losing out on talent they COULD have because of it too. take Blake Sims for example.
c.) Saban has been to 2 BCS games in 3 years, and won a NC, if he does go 9-3 I wouldn't worry about it, because he has SHOWN he has the ability to be GREAT, and its very obvious he is the hardest working coach in the NCAA.

a) Obviously. But go look at his record and achievements while there. That's mediocre. Richt has won the conference twice.
b) 12 games a year consistently? Those expectation are fing insane especially at a program like UGA. Only the best coaches in the nation do that anyways and Richt isn't Saban or Meyer.

There are only a few great coaches out there. We got lucky and snagged one due to perfect timing.

 

[Nate]

a) Obviously. But go look at his record and achievements while there. That's mediocre. Richt has won the conference twice.
b) 12 games a year consistently? Those expectation are fing insane especially at a program like UGA. Only the best coaches in the nation do that anyways and Richt isn't Saban or Meyer.

There are only a few great coaches out there. We got lucky and snagged one due to perfect timing.

With some of the talent he has had there, there is no reason he shouldn't be averaging 11-12 games a season. UGA chokes at the big games, and quite a few times has lost games they should have won.. a good coach wouldn't let that happen... .maybe my expectations are a bit high, but I live in GA I talk to UGA fans.... I'm not alone with my feelings about his coaching abillity.

 

[TideAlum05]

I hope UGA fires Mark Richt and hires another Jim Donnan. Then I can LMAO when UGA going to the Outback Bowl is considered a good season for them. Even better would be if they hire another Ray Goff. Then I can LMAO when UGA going to any bowl game is a good season for them. Ask Nebraska how firing Frank Solich worked out. And Richt is better than Solich imo. And Nebraska actually has a great program, UGA does not.

 

[alagator]

With some of the talent he has had there, there is no reason he shouldn't be averaging 11-12 games a season. UGA chokes at the big games, and quite a few times has lost games they should have won.. a good coach wouldn't let that happen... .maybe my expectations are a bit high, but I live in GA I talk to UGA fans.... I'm not alone with my feelings about his coaching abillity.

AVERAGING LESS than 11-12 wins a season is without reason? Really?

Let's see, there are at most 14 games in a season. So, that means that over a six-year period Richt MUST post win totals of 14-13-13-12-10-10 (averages to 12 wins per year). And that is at the top end of the MINIMUM range you see NO REASON he should not post. And 13-12-11-10-10-10 would be the minimum season win totals (averages to 11 wins per year).

And 14 games are not a given either. Remember, he would have to beat out a Florida program in the midst of an all-time great streak of their own to even reach the SECCG.

Now, I think Richt has become stale at UGa. But, even the Florida Gator side of me, has to admit he has done a very good job at a program that has underperformed for the entirety of its history. In fact, next to Auburn, I cannot think of an SEC team and fan base so full of itself than Georgia with so little actual accomplishments to back up that opinion.

 

[Nate]

AVERAGING LESS than 11-12 wins a season is without reason? Really?

Let's see, there are at most 14 games in a season. So, that means that over a six-year period Richt MUST post win totals of 14-13-13-12-10-10 (averages to 12 wins per year). And that is at the top end of the MINIMUM range you see NO REASON he should not post. And 13-12-11-10-10-10 would be the minimum season win totals (averages to 11 wins per year).

And 14 games are not a given either. Remember, he would have to beat out a Florida program in the midst of an all-time great streak of their own to even reach the SECCG.

Now, I think Richt has become stale at UGa. But, even the Florida Gator side of me, has to admit he has done a very good job at a program that has underperformed for the entirety of its history. In fact, next to Auburn, I cannot think of an SEC team and fan base so full of itself than Georgia with so little actual accomplishments to back up that opinion.

idk why I was think 13 regular season games.. But seriously, the program doesn't under perform just because they are UGA... its stems from coaching, and athletic directors,...

and dont' get me wrong here Richt may not be a mediocre coach at another school, but at UGA he is. You saying he is stale at UGA is DEAD on. but back to the point of this thread... Yes I think there is a good chance he gets fired this year or next... depending on who comes on the market to replace him

 

[alagator]

Nate...

I just do not see Richt as mediocre. Not truly elite or outstanding, but much better than average.

He does have two SEC titles in a ten year period. Pretty good too when you consider three other SEC teams have won five NATIONAL TITLES during that span. So it is not like he is commanding a Big-Dawg Program in a league of midgets (see Boise or The Real USC). Granted, he has thrown in some clunkers, but what coach has not (Spurrier lost to Miss State, Bryant lost to a Georgia Tech team that would not win another game that season, Saban has lost to UAB while at LSU and to Louisiana-Monroe with us).

Personally, I think many times the talent at Georgia is overrated and at times poorly coached. Both probably fall at Richt's feet (he recruited the talent and did not coach others up). But, again, using a ten-year track record he has done a pretty good job overall.

Hard to blame a guy when for half of his tenure at Georgia the team no other program in the entire country can beat out for a national title just happens to reside in his conference (and two of those years in the same division of his conference). And Tennessee has been a fairly strong program for most (but not all) of those years too.

I really think this is a case of overrun expectations of the UGa fans. Remove Herschel Walker (and you certainly cannot do so) from their history and they are nothing more than a North Carolina or Iowa or maybe even Purdue on the national football stage. Even with Walker and that three-year era, and do you really have an Alabama or Oklahoma or Penn State? I say no.

The real issue is UGa fans saw their door-mat little brother, Florida, hit a home run with Spurrier and make the climb up the national ladder they envisioned for themselves. And with Spurrier gone, they thought they finally had their chance - but faltered even against Zook. With Meyer and his program zooming past them again, they feel desperate. Question is can they find their own Spurrier to make them dominant?

 

[LBS]

a) Obviously. But go look at his record and achievements while there. That's mediocre. Richt has won the conference twice.
b) 12 games a year consistently? Those expectation are fing insane especially at a program like UGA. Only the best coaches in the nation do that anyways and Richt isn't Saban or Meyer.

There are only a few great coaches out there. We got lucky and snagged one due to perfect timing.

The state of Georgia is more loaded that Florida, when one considers the number of D1 High School players the state produces relative to the number of D1 school the state is home to. If he put a fence up around the state, he'd be kicking UF's tail. UF has to compete with FSU, Miami, USF, UCF, FIU, and FAU.

 

[alagator]

The state of Georgia is more loaded that Florida, when one considers the number of D1 High School players the state produces relative to the number of D1 school the state is home to. If he put a fence up around the state, he'd be kicking UF's tail. UF has to compete with FSU, Miami, USF, UCF, FIU, and FAU.

You were on a roll until that last part.

UF does compete with FSU and Miami, but in the lure for recruits The University of Florida truly wants in the state (and can get in school) USF and UCF do not come into play and FIU and FAU are nowhere even remotely in competition.

Tennessee, Georgia, and Michigan are bigger players for state of Florida recruits UF desires than the final four you listed.

 

[TideAlum05]

UGA is a 2nd tier program and Mark Richt is a 2nd tier coach. Perfect fit. UGA fans probably don't want to admit that to themselves though.

 

[Big_Fan]

The state of Georgia is more loaded that Florida, when one considers the number of D1 High School players the state produces relative to the number of D1 school the state is home to. If he put a fence up around the state, he'd be kicking UF's tail. UF has to compete with FSU, Miami, USF, UCF, FIU, and FAU.

Simply not true. Miami, FSU, and UF are the big dogs. USF is a come lately program that has recruited "just ok" and coached up. Florida has roughly twice the number of D1 players as Georgia, and Georgia is recruited heavily by Auburn and the Carolina schools. Saying Florida has to recruit against FIU and FAU has no merit. FIU and FAU are as much of a threat to Florida recruiting as Georgia Southern, Valdosta State, and West Georgia College are to UGA. Florida gets pretty much whoever they want in state.

Putting up a fence sounds nice, but Richt recruits very well. He just does not have the in-state depth to cherry pick to the degree Florida does.

All of the "Richt is mediocre" or even "just good" is silly. IMO Richt is equal to Bob Stoops or perhaps better. He has a slightly worse win percentage, but he is at a program that is traditionally much weaker, has a better bowl record, and plays in a tougher conference division.