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[TerryP]

What do you think of Georgia's SOS this season?

Like I've said, you can hold that up to a lot of other P5 programs and we're looking at the same difficulty. One example, Penn State, has been mentioned.

I've seen ratings which have Michigan playing the toughest schedule for '18. Two games stand out, Notre Dame and Ohio State. The Buckeyes...yeah, that's a tough one. Notre Dame? They are hosting Wisconsin and that's likely a tougher game than the Domers. Rounding out this tough schedule...Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland, Nebraska, SMU. Now, compare that to Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou (good QB, don't discount them,) Tennessee, and whom?

UGA vs LSU is every bit of as tough of a game as Michigan and Penn State/Ohio State. UofSC isn't going to be an easy win for UGA--replace them with PSU or OSU.

All things compared I don't see the B1G having a tougher row to hoe than your SECE teams. The bottom of that conference is worse than that of the BIG 12.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Like I've said, you can hold that up to a lot of other P5 programs and we're looking at the same difficulty. One example, Penn State, has been mentioned.

I've seen ratings which have Michigan playing the toughest schedule for '18. Two games stand out, Notre Dame and Ohio State. The Buckeyes...yeah, that's a tough one. Notre Dame? They are hosting Wisconsin and that's likely a tougher game than the Domers. Rounding out this tough schedule...Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland, Nebraska, SMU. Now, compare that to Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou (good QB, don't discount them,) Tennessee, and whom?

UGA vs LSU is every bit of as tough of a game as Michigan and Penn State/Ohio State. UofSC isn't going to be an easy win for UGA--replace them with PSU or OSU.

All things compared I don't see the B1G having a tougher row to hoe than your SECE teams. The bottom of that conference is worse than that of the BIG 12.

Alabama is in the toughest division in power 5 football. Georgia, statistically speaking, is in the weakest division in power 5 football. And you want me instead to compare Georgia's 2018 SOS to Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Michigan? The B1G East division that has been, statistically speaking, either right behind the SEC West in SOS or slightly ahead?

Gee Terry, doesn't the huge difference in SOS in the SEC itself irritate you just a little? You can't make a credible argument for the SEC East SOS vs the West. Why are you heading north when we in the West are playing a much tougher schedule than any team in the East? I mean the only reason Vandy won an SEC game is because they played a winless Tennessee team in a close one. That's one SEC win between them. It's Alabama that should be offended that we again will be slugging it out in the West while Georgia gets a cakewalk to Atlanta.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Because the SEC West has been a dominant division for the last decade. The best in power 5 college football. The West does not the East make. What did you think of Georgia's romp through the east last season? Tennessee was 0 for 8 in the SEC and McElwain got fired at Florida along with Butch. Missouri had to go on a 6 game win streak just to break even. And Vandy was Vandying all over the place. And when Georgia went to a decent West teams home field they got curb stomped as the #1 team in the nation.

What do you think of Georgia's SOS this season?
Austin Peay
South Carolina
Middle Tennessee
Missouri
Tennessee
Vandy
LSU
Florida
Kentucky
The Barn
UMass
GaTech

You might as well pencil them into Atlanta now. We often talk about the SEC SOS like it's one entity. There is a huge difference between the West and the East in terms of SOS. How would you like to see Georgia have to play an extra SEC game from a West opponent every season? They would if they were scheduled to play a 9th conference game. The 9th game isn't just in Bama's best interest nationally, it's in Bama's best interest as Georgia continues to build in the East.

The SEC East is again the worst Power 5 college football division ...

Well uga does go to USCe and LSU...
But i dont see it any easier than Bamas.... they get GT at home and we get Louisville on neutral....
...... and rest of non conference sucks just like Bamas....
its really not who you play in conference....its the pitiful non conference....for money and not competition...
And the weak east is KY, Vandy, and Tn... but west is ms, msu, and ut for bama... equal in coming years...

 

[alagator]

Alabama is in the toughest division in power 5 football. Georgia, statistically speaking, is in the weakest division in power 5 football. And you want me instead to compare Georgia's 2018 SOS to Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Michigan? The B1G East division that has been, statistically speaking, either right behind the SEC West in SOS or slightly ahead?

It's literally broken down in this thread. Look at what Michigan faces and what UGA faces. Where's the difference? UGA is facing strong, traditional powers this season just like Michigan and it can be argued that the have-nots in the B1G are worse than those found in the SEC.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

It's literally broken down in this thread. Look at what Michigan faces and what UGA faces. Where's the difference? UGA is facing strong, traditional powers this season just like Michigan and it can be argued that the have-nots in the B1G are worse than those found in the SEC.

Michigan plays 9 Conference games...+ @ ND.....
Ohio state, mich state, penn state, nebraska, wisconsin....
Tougher slate then anybody in sec...
And the northwestern, Maryland, Indiana tougher then msu, vandy, ky,

 

[TUSKtimes]

It's literally broken down in this thread. Look at what Michigan faces and what UGA faces. Where's the difference? UGA is facing strong, traditional powers this season just like Michigan and it can be argued that the have-nots in the B1G are worse than those found in the SEC.

If you read the stats I quoted about the SEC East being the worst division among the power 5 you can't say that the SEC East even remotely stacks up with the 2nd best SOS in the nation, B1G East. Do you really think that an Iowa or a Wisconsin would make it to their championship undefeated if they had to go through the bulk of the East competition first? No more than Florida or Missouri would have ever been in Atlanta had they had to go through the bulk of the SEC West competition.

I noticed that you haven't said how you feel about the SEC West division being the toughest in power 5 and the SEC East being the easiest in power 5. Does the advantage Georgia have to Atlanta over an Alabama in SOS concern you? We got killed on our resume last season. Both of our East foes last season went a combined 1-15 in the SEC. Talk about destroying a resume.

So what does a 9 game conference schedule accomplish? It puts more LSUs and Alabamas and Auburns and Texas A&Ms on the East schedule. Why would anyone be happy with the different roads that we have to travel in the SEC?

 

[TerryP]

I noticed that you haven't said how you feel about the SEC West division being the toughest in power 5 and the SEC East being the easiest in power 5. Does the advantage Georgia have to Atlanta over an Alabama in SOS concern you? We got killed on our resume last season. Both of our East foes last season went a combined 1-15 in the SEC. Talk about destroying a resume.

Bama got killed on their resume last season but it was that resume that put them in the playoffs? Come on, now. You saw fans and a few mediots saying that about one game the week leading up to Auburn. You saw people talking about how weak that schedule was and it was very evident they were looking at final scores versus the actual teams Bama played.

In my opinion, a lot of that ranking of the East is due to the strength of the West. Out of the 32 or so losses we saw the East take last season right at half of them were to teams in the West. It's a zero-sum game in rankings like this...akin to those trying to criticize a conference and saying "notice the conference is .500 against each other." Well, yeah!

And no. I'm not concerned about the path UGA has this season. Is it easier than others? Perhaps. We'll see how it shakes out. Personally, I'm still not sold on Kirby seeing nothing that tells me he's any better than Richt.

And the northwestern, Maryland, Indiana tougher then msu, vandy, ky,

You're supporting that how? I'd take either of the two MS schools, UT and Vandy with winning records over those guys and we're not including the other teams like Rutgers, or Minnesota, or Illinois, et. al.

 

[TUSKtimes]

The quote buttons aren't working this morning Terry.

I was told that Bama got in the playoff because of the "eye test." Whatever that entails with 13 individuals in a room saying who the BEST team is, that is what supposedly happened. I would also agree that a one-loss Ohio State would have pushed a one-loss Alabama out of the party. Are they comparing resumes here?

You continue to sound like a man that see's no need to play 9 games even though you continue to say that you do. Are you just trying to be politically correct among the masses? Tell me why you and coach Saban want to play 9?

Very disingenuous touting SEC SOS from the top to the bottom in this conference as a strength when you should know that by playing only 8 we are tipping the competitive scale in our favor. Less conference attrition also means more teams who jam in another game against the lesser teams, another win and a step closer to a bowl game. Nothing self-serving about that. It's a wonder other conferences that play 9 want to play us these days.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

The quote buttons aren't working this morning Terry.

I was told that Bama got in the playoff because of the "eye test." Whatever that entails with 13 individuals in a room saying who the BEST team is, that is what supposedly happened. I would also agree that a one-loss Ohio State would have pushed a one-loss Alabama out of the party. Are they comparing resumes here?

You continue to sound like a man that see's no need to play 9 games even though you continue to say that you do. Are you just trying to be politically correct among the masses? Tell me why you and coach Saban want to play 9?

Very disingenuous touting SEC SOS from the top to the bottom in this conference as a strength when you should know that by playing only 8 we are tipping the competitive scale in our favor. Less conference attrition also means more teams who jam in another game against the lesser teams, another win and a step closer to a bowl game. Nothing self-serving about that. It's a wonder other conferences that play 9 want to play us these days.

Agreed.
Bama got in because of eye test....and Iowa 30 point win over osu... with out that bad loss....I believe osu gets in ...Bama didnt look like "Bama " the last few games...maybe...maybe not.... I believe a 2 loss osu...without the blow out loss to iowa...and a conference championship...gets in over Bama...

The sec needs 9 game sec schedule....plus 1 major power 5....and 2 non power 5s... period..anything less is weak...and will hurt an sec team eventually...even nick recognizes in an article in i read....$$$$$$ is the reason things are the way they are.. and it is as you mentioned @TUSKstuff

 

[musso]

Not to diminish the views expressed in this thread, because I agree with most of what's been posted. But LOL just step back for a moment from all this talk of "Man our schedule isn't hard enough! Bring on tougher competition!"

#BamaPrivilege #DynastyProblems

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Not to diminish the views expressed in this thread, because I agree with most of what's been posted. But LOL just step back for a moment from all this talk of "Man our schedule isn't hard enough! Bring on tougher competition!"

#BamaPrivilege #DynastyProblems

Well it could be interpreted as that. But more then that its for a more home competitive schedule for those attending games.
I paid 950$ for my 2 season tics plus 560$ Tide pride....and 6 of 14 tickets are for non power 5 schools games. Seems pricey

 

[TerryP]

Well it could be interpreted as that. But more then that its for a more home competitive schedule for those attending games.
I paid 950$ for my 2 season tics plus 560$ Tide pride....and 6 of 14 tickets are for non power 5 schools games. Seems pricey

That's what @musso is chortling about and I'm with him. Bama isn't beating these smaller schools any worse than they're beating the SEC schools.

 

[planomateo]

Horse shit. Alabama was the #1 team in football all year...this wasn't an eye test team. We were the best team all year long, regardless of what happened in Lee County.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Horse shit. Alabama was the #1 team in football all year...this wasn't an eye test team. We were the best team all year long, regardless of what happened in Lee County.

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The "eye test" is a playoff committee term. I think mostly it means that these football team's fate is in the hands of humans. It could very well include the fact that Alabama was ranked #1 all regular season long.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

That's what @musso is chortling about and I'm with him. Bama isn't beating these smaller schools any worse than they're beating the SEC schools.

Well you r right to a small point. Some times the atmosphere in the stadium isnt much different. Why? Some of sec opponents are very good and the expectations of the outcome of games based on history...
But again....its more about quality of opponents for price of tickets. For me anyway

 

[BamaFan334]

Mizzou (good QB, don't discount them,).

Call me crazy, but I'm counting on Missouri to challenge Georgia for the East this year, as well as South Carolina. The Missouri game looked like a garbage game the last number of years, but after watching them last year I am actually looking forward to see how we hold up in a pass heavy game.

 

[ChemE]

I can't believe we open with Duke next year. Terrible decision.

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[musso]

Not to diminish the views expressed in this thread, because I agree with most of what's been posted. But LOL just step back for a moment from all this talk of "Man our schedule isn't hard enough! Bring on tougher competition!"

#BamaPrivilege #DynastyProblems

Well it could be interpreted as that. But more then that its for a more home competitive schedule for those attending games.
I paid 950$ for my 2 season tics plus 560$ Tide pride....and 6 of 14 tickets are for non power 5 schools games. Seems pricey

I got priced out of attending years ago. And that's including getting tickets at face value from family TidePride members. I'm coming from out of state, but still, the hotels rape you.

 

[musso]

I can't believe we open with Duke next year. Terrible decision.

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Yea, I've never understood that one. Although you have to admit Saban has gotten an impressive array of Power 5 brands since he began this tradition. I think we've only played one program twice - Va Tech - and everyone has been a decent program, even if the final score didn't reflect it.

In my opinion, facing Saban in a kick-off classic is the most unfair thing in the world to do. This is where Saban's obsessive work ethic gives him more of an advantage than at any other time during the season. There are only so many hours during the regular season, and by the time of the post-season, every coaching staff is pulling all-nighters. The biggest difference between Saban and the rest is found in the off-season.

 

[planomateo]