🏈 "C-19 is part of our society. It wasn’t caused by football or caused by sports. There’s no expert view right now - Harbaugh speaks.

[TerryP]

 

[bama alum]

Holy ! Are Coach Khaki and I on the same page?


Edit: Damn, this guy's a moron. Is agreeing with Harbaugh a good thing? Hmm...

 

[mando]

Holy ! Are Coach Khaki and I on the same page?


Edit: Damn, this guy's a moron. Is agreeing with Harbaugh a good thing? Hmm...

It just shows how crazy the year 2020 is.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Was really hoping he'd call Chinese bats, "nervous birds".

 

[TideatMileHigh]

He is correct. You can choose to stay inside with your thumb up your ass and hope the medical industry makes a vaccine, or you can accept the fact that whether you like it or not, living life involves risk and the inevitably of your impending death.

 

[Tidestalker]

He is correct. You can choose to stay inside with your thumb up your ass and hope the medical industry makes a vaccine, or you can accept the fact that whether you like it or not, living life involves risk and the inevitably of your impending death.

Heard an interesting perspective yesterday from someone much smarter than me...

It may have served society better had the govt, and medical field, never emphasized the idea of finding a vaccine. Had there just been an emphasis on how to best deal with the virus and societal limitations & conditions without dangling the carrot of a "saving grace" vaccine, that no one really knows if/when it will actually happen, we may have all been better off. You know - Adapt & overcome... Opposed to "wait for better news". I know that's not super realistic, just something to think about...

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Heard an interesting perspective yesterday from someone much smarter than me...

It may have served society better had the govt, and medical field, never emphasized the idea of finding a vaccine. Had there just been an emphasis on how to best deal with the virus and societal limitations & conditions without dangling the carrot of a "saving grace" vaccine, that no one really knows if/when it will actually happen, we may have all been better off. You know - Adapt & overcome... Opposed to "wait for better news". I know that's not super realistic, just something to think about...

That's certainly a way of looking at it. If you were to go back to the outset, the concept of a shutdown was to keep hospitals from being overrun and short supplies and equipment from being depleted. It was never about eradication or the elimination of new cases or, to put it bluntly, to eliminate the possibility of future deaths. It was about managing volume. That transitioned to a groupthink that the shutdown should persist until their is NO risk of infection or death - meaning a vaccine. "Reopening means you don't care about the vulnerable."

We have to decide to: 1) manage our risk; 2) be happily ignorant of it: or 3) cower in a corner from it. Many times, I'm in the second group, but I shan't be in the third. I have two employees in my office who are afraid of their commutes - one had a crash, the other I'm not so sure. If there is any chance of frozen precipitation and we give employees an option of staying home, I know my email is going to ding in about 90 seconds. The pandemic, on one level, has lowered their stress. I could tell them that in 1972 there were 55 thousand auto deaths when there were about 210 million people in our nation, or a fatality rate of about 26 in 100,000 - and then add that there were 37 thousand deaths in 2018 out of 317 million, a fatality rate of about 11 in 100,000 - but that's not going to quell their angst. Lap belts, three-point belts, crumple zones, air bags, seat belt laws, more stringent drunk driving laws and - perhaps most importantly - driver assist, all have driven down deaths. As jalopies like I drive are replaced by those that brake for you and keep you in your lane, auto deaths will continue to decline. Some will continue to drive old cars out of an economic reality, some will because they like knowing that if you goose it a bit you'll need to oversteer to maintain your line.

Risk management allows you to identify, measure, monitor and control. You don't eliminate.

 

[TerryP]

@It Takes Eleven could those employees use MARTA, or some other form of public transpo?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

@It Takes Eleven could those employees use MARTA, or some other form of public transpo?

Not for their entire commute. Choices.

 

[TerryP]

@It Takes Eleven I've heard of similar cases around work. A few won't take public transportation in what I have interpreted to be cases of "that's below me."

EVEN though that transportation carries mostly medical staff, and downtown office workers.
EVEN though that transportation is a one stop ride...200 yards from the door (which is as close as the parking lot.)
EVEN though that transportation is available from Mt. P, James Island, Summerville, and North Charleston.
EVEN though the company would pay for the trip.

Choices.

 

[planomateo]

Some European cities are seeing fewer public transit people and more bikers.

Masking up is slowly becoming mandatory. Ironic that these pro-choicers have an issue with not wearing masks

@It Takes Eleven afraid of the commute? Sane commute they were making prior to the madness?

 

[TerryP]

Masking up is slowly becoming mandatory.

I mentioned more about this on the non-sports board, honey thread.

Among the errands yesterday there were two trips, Publix and Lowes, where I had a choice of going to a city where masks were mandated or going to another where they weren't. I chose the later even though the distance was greater.

I don't believe the mayor of the mandated city thought it through in terms of businesses losing money.

 

[TerryP]

I don't believe the mayor of the mandated city thought it through in terms of businesses losing money.

Building on that a bit for another second...we did drive through Goose Creek and Charleston yesterday. West Ashley as well.

The one thing I noticed when we left Goose Creek was the absence of biohazard bins, right? Think about that for a second (if you can follow my thought process.) They're so important, these masks and gloves, and yet they aren't considered a biohazard after use?

Face value look, right? It doesn't compute.

 

[mando]

I am one of those in between on the mask thing. I do think there is some value. It does not eliminate but blocks some of the virus so more of a risk management thing just like seat belts. I also think it should be a choice. Not everyone wears their seat belt. I like to see some science behind my positions. Here is one that I reference that makes sense to me and does not sugar coat it as a silver bullet.

Scientists test which face covering style best protects against the coronavirus

Researchers say one type of face covering does the best job for protecting people from the coronavirus.

abcnews.go.com

 

[BamaFan334]

@It Takes Eleven I've heard of similar cases around work. A few won't take public transportation in what I have interpreted to be cases of "that's below me."

EVEN though that transportation carries mostly medical staff, and downtown office workers.
EVEN though that transportation is a one stop ride...200 yards from the door (which is as close as the parking lot.)
EVEN though that transportation is available from Mt. P, James Island, Summerville, and North Charleston.
EVEN though the company would pay for the trip.

Choices.

A lot goes down at Marta stations. Usually in bad areas of town, very dark with little lighting, and it scares folks. I've ridden Marta many a times, but not something I want to do with kids or something I would want them to do even as high schoolers like we did. I grew up on the East side of town, so clearly not as clean and luxurious as the North side of town stations.

 

[BamaFan334]

I mentioned more about this on the non-sports board, honey thread.

Among the errands yesterday there were two trips, Publix and Lowes, where I had a choice of going to a city where masks were mandated or going to another where they weren't. I chose the later even though the distance was greater.

I don't believe the mayor of the mandated city thought it through in terms of businesses losing money.

Same here. We are refusing to shop in Athens (30 minutes away) because of the mask mandate.

 

[TerryP]

Same here. We are refusing to shop in Athens (30 minutes away) because of the mask mandate.

It's not a big deal to me. I'll readily just go somewhere else. I don't like wearing them.

A few minutes ago I rode up to Family Dollar to grab some matches, right? I did not see their sign, I didn't see a single employee when I walked in. I picked up the matches, went the counter, and was told to leave. I was the one guy in the store, one employee.

Here's the thing. I asked her "where are the masks?" Geez, what, five bucks at the most? She wouldn't even speak to me.

I told her "I'd just go the the 7-11, spend a dime more, but I'll make it a point to spend a lot more than that this morning. They'll be making money."

I'm probably being an ass in that situation. But then again, I spoke to her with all respect.

 

[BamaFan334]

It's not a big deal to me. I'll readily just go somewhere else. I don't like wearing them.

A few minutes ago I rode up to Family Dollar to grab some matches, right? I did not see their sign, I didn't see a single employee when I walked in. I picked up the matches, went the counter, and was told to leave. I was the one guy in the store, one employee.

Here's the thing. I asked her "where are the masks?" Geez, what, five bucks at the most? She wouldn't even speak to me.

I told her "I'd just go the the 7-11, spend a dime more, but I'll make it a point to spend a lot more than that this morning. They'll be making money."

I'm probably being an ass in that situation. But then again, I spoke to her with all respect.

No, you're not being an ass. This is relatively new, so how are you supposed to know each and every store's rules on the matter? Does the word humanity and respect thy neighbor not mean anything anymore? It's as simple as just being nice, especially to your patrons.

I'm simply waiting for a fist fight for the first person that wants to approach me in public about not wearing a mask. Now I don't go many places, but the first time someone is rude to me with what has become the standard way to interact these days instead of simply communicating properly, we will be trading some knuckles.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

I am one of those in between on the mask thing. I do think there is some value. It does not eliminate but blocks some of the virus so more of a risk management thing just like seat belts. I also think it should be a choice. Not everyone wears their seat belt. I like to see some science behind my positions. Here is one that I reference that makes sense to me and does not sugar coat it as a silver bullet.

Scientists test which face covering style best protects against the coronavirus

Researchers say one type of face covering does the best job for protecting people from the coronavirus.

abcnews.go.com

What a horrible analogy. Wearing a seat belt is a law. It's not a choice. Don't wear it, and you get a ticket.

Wearing masks saves lives. Don't wear masks and there will be no football.

And this isn't aimed at you, but LOL at the internet tough guys out there on their no mask wearing stance.

 

[BamaFan334]

What a horrible analogy. Wearing a seat belt is a law. It's not a choice. Don't wear it, and you get a ticket.

Wearing masks saves lives. Don't wear masks and there will be no football.

And this isn't aimed at you, but LOL at the internet tough guys out there on their no mask wearing stance.

Internet tough guys? How are you an internet tough guy if you actually aren't wearing masks in public? Is it actually proven to save lives by wearing a mask or can we easily get it from touching the same door handles, condiments, surfaces, anything else, and then touching our face. Give it a break dude. For every doctor opinion for masks, there is a doctors opinion stating masks aren't necessary. You want to refer to me as an internet tough guy because I won't wear a mask, but you refuse to see the other side of the story where I'm apparently not causing any harm to the fool that is wearing a mask that is so worried about me not wearing mine. If their masks are so beneficial and keeping them safe, why are they worried about my choice?