🏈 Bronco's organization takes season tickets away from holders (resale marketers.) Should UA follow?

[TerryP]

I guess I don't know what to think,

:agree:

For every argument, there's a good counter.

My point was that they atleast offer their graduates the opportunity. Alabama just says, go get in line.

I'm agreeing, again.

The question does make me wonder if they look at the attendance of the undergrads and use some of those experiences for the graduate, or those in post-grad school.

 

[bamachine]

Just subtract from their priority points, if they try to turn a major profit. If they charge like 20-30 bucks over face, for shipping/reseller fees and charges, that is fine. Make it a major subtraction if they order road and/or post-season tix and resell them for profit. I am a season ticket holder but not enough points for most road/post-season tix through the school. Pisses me off when someone with a bunch of points buys those games, just to resell and make profit. I do sell some of my tickets but I always sell them at face, for games I cannot(or not willing to make the trip for) attend.

 

[alagator]

Pisses me off when someone with a bunch of points buys those games, just to resell and make profit.

It gets on my last nerve when I see a series of six to eight seats done that way ESPECIALLY when I see that in the Tide Pride sections.

 

[UAgrad93]

I'm one of the group that can get 4. I can't get to all the games so I sell some to other A Club members or their friends. I'm not in it to make a fortune, just cover the cost. I also donate some tickets to soldiers out of Ft. Benning. Sometimes they take their family and sometimes it's a group of soldiers. I try to have a butt in my seats whether I'm there or not.

Don't worry uagrad93, your time for getting 4 is coming. Maybe you just need a few more post-playing surgeries to qualify.

Actually @OldPlayer, I was able to get the 4 last season. Like you, I try to make sure that if I can't go, someone's but will be there to root for the TIDE. A couple of times, I sold 2 and then I carried my son.

I'm thankful that the University allows us a shot at tickets. Some Lettermen Clubs don't!! I had been getting mine since I graduated and then stopped around the '99 season because of coaching obligations. We were 7 days a week without the results. When I got out of coaching, Saban was hired and my wife called the ticket office to ask about getting my tickets back. They pulled up my name and history and sent my form. After that '09 Natty, I vowed to never let my seats leave my position!!!!

 

[50+yeartidefan]

On the other hand, even during the Shula/Price/fRan/DuBose years there were tens of thousands on the waiting list to get those tickets.

Don't necessarily agree with that....
I remember when the east side was finished...those were available with no TP cost... son got 2 on east side 35 yd line U4GG on first application durig 2005 season....just saying...

 

[50+yeartidefan]

But there may have been a bunch for premium lower level seats...or even west side U3.....
And had a friend that was onwaiting list only one year before he got his....again those were U4 AA....and for 2013 season...he went to ticket office and inquired and that may have speeded it up
So....maybe ..maybe not...

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

In a single word.... YES.

Too many hand-sitting blue-haired season ticket holders that give you the stink-eye when you stand up and yell the whole time.

No reason why BDS shouldn't be the most intimidating place in the entire fucking country to play. We need to weed the least enthusiastic fans out. That includes the quiet-ass blue-hairs.

No disrespect to those guys, because they were valuable for a long time. But their time has come and gone.

 

[OldPlayer]

In a single word.... YES.

Too many hand-sitting blue-haired season ticket holders that give you the stink-eye when you stand up and yell the whole time.

No reason why BDS shouldn't be the most intimidating place in the entire ******* country to play. We need to weed the least enthusiastic fans out. That includes the quiet-ass blue-hairs.

No disrespect to those guys, because they were valuable for a long time. But their time has come and gone.

BDS is intimidating. How sound travels is interesting. How it sounds on the field is very different from the stands. BDS wasn't built/expanded with consideration of crowd noise, but players will tell you they hear and appreciate the noise.

 

[TerryP]

Don't necessarily agree with that....
I remember when the east side was finished...those were available with no TP cost... son got 2 on east side 35 yd line U4GG on first application durig 2005 season....just saying...

The problem here is the east side, upper deck, was finished in '98. The North End Zone wasn't opened until 2006, the South in 2010.

In 2015 the dates of original applications was changed (as in those offered) about a week. It was like 1/7/07 that moved to 1/13, or something along those lines. As of that time the waiting list was being whittled down about a week at a time.

I personally know someone who applied in '05 and they weren't able to purchase season tickets until '11. I also know a guy who applied in '06 and was told it would be at least five years. He donated five grand, as I recall, and was offered tickets two days later.

 

[TerryP]

According to a Jan '15 article by Forbes, the waiting list at BAMA is 32,000+ with only 1.5% coming off each year.

@BamaFan334 Do you remember the thread right before A-day about the "GameDay Experience" where you could walk out of the tunnel, watch from the sidelines, have shaded seating, etc? The article he's pointing to here mentions how Battle brought that marketing concept to Bama.

In the same article (a note I missed years ago) it mentions a "Young Alumni Pass" which goes back to your comments about Florida State.

Similarly, to focus upon ensuring that young alumni can access their games, one offering Alabama made this year utilizing Experience was the Young Alumni Pass. Through the Young Alumni Pass, Young Alumni Tide Pride members who graduated in the last five years were provided tickets for groups of two or less for most games. During the first quarter, pass holders were texted upgraded seat locations to unused season ticket holder seats. "The Young Alumni Pass is a genius use of our technology. When new technology comes out, what you see a lot of times is schools and teams who need to accomplish a lot of things are the first to try it. Then here you have Alabama football, which is about as good as it gets, using it in very unique ways. The concept of a Young Alumni Pass is exceptionally smart, because without it, you are basically losing the connection with the next generation of donors and season ticket holders for a decade. It's hard to recover from that," Experience's CEO, Rackley, said.
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It reads like there's a program for those you mentioned.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

In a single word.... YES.

Too many hand-sitting blue-haired season ticket holders that give you the stink-eye when you stand up and yell the whole time.
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Well.....i hope you dont st in front of MS50+......cause she and you willnot gt along for much of the game...
Yep...people have a right to stand and yell..but we cant ....in all the years...only had a problem once...and those 2 gentlemen left at half time...lol

 

[50+yeartidefan]

No disrespect to those guys, because they were valuable for a long time. But their time has come and gone.

No....our time has not.....we love our Bama football.my first game was BB ( before Bear)....wore my Bama shirt under my fatigues in Vietnam every day...and will have my ashes spread on BRyant Denny...some anyway...
No...sir...our time hasnt come and gone...still right here....Roll Tide

 

[TerryP]

No disrespect to those guys, because they were valuable for a long time. But their time has come and gone.

Back in 2012 or so there was a financial survey conducted to find out where the majority of the wealth was in the United States. At that time well over 70% was found with the Bama Boomers.

In a decade, or two, you'd be right. We'll see a pretty substantial shift in who holds the money. As of right now, it's their time (even if it is on its last leg.)

 

[BamaFan334]

@BamaFan334 Do you remember the thread right before A-day about the "GameDay Experience" where you could walk out of the tunnel, watch from the sidelines, have shaded seating, etc? The article he's pointing to here mentions how Battle brought that marketing concept to Bama.

In the same article (a note I missed years ago) it mentions a "Young Alumni Pass" which goes back to your comments about Florida State.

Similarly, to focus upon ensuring that young alumni can access their games, one offering Alabama made this year utilizing Experience was the Young Alumni Pass. Through the Young Alumni Pass, Young Alumni Tide Pride members who graduated in the last five years were provided tickets for groups of two or less for most games. During the first quarter, pass holders were texted upgraded seat locations to unused season ticket holder seats. "The Young Alumni Pass is a genius use of our technology. When new technology comes out, what you see a lot of times is schools and teams who need to accomplish a lot of things are the first to try it. Then here you have Alabama football, which is about as good as it gets, using it in very unique ways. The concept of a Young Alumni Pass is exceptionally smart, because without it, you are basically losing the connection with the next generation of donors and season ticket holders for a decade. It's hard to recover from that," Experience's CEO, Rackley, said.
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It reads like there's a program for those you mentioned.

Very nice. I am going to contact Tide Pride today and see what they have to say about it. I'll report back. Thanks a ton for digging on this!

 

[50+yeartidefan]

As of right now, it's their time (even if it is on its last leg.)

Still on 2....thank you very much...shaky but still.....lol

 

[musso]

I don't know how it isn't in the interest of a school to circulate season-tickets to as many different holders/families as possible. That's how you invest in the expansion of the fan base on a tangible, participatory level. Think of the generational influence that the privilege of attending multiple games in a season would have. This is consistent with Saban's MO about fans taking ownership of the team's success. Plus, at this level of success, Bama no longer needs to rely on the patronage of "old monied" patrons.

 

[alagator]

I don't know how it isn't in the interest of a school to circulate season-tickets to as many different holders/families as possible. That's how you invest in the expansion of the fan base on a tangible, participatory level. Think of the generational influence that the privilege of attending multiple games in a season would have. This is consistent with Saban's MO about fans taking ownership of the team's success. Plus, at this level of success, Bama no longer needs to rely on the patronage of "old monied" patrons.

1) If they are circulating tickets, how do you propose they get people to move from one club to another? If there's a chance they will lose their spot, what's the point of upgrading the TP membership level.

2) This level of success is singularly attributed to the "old monied" patrons. Who do you think they went to when they were putting together the package for Saban?

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

No....our time has not.....we love our Bama football.my first game was BB ( before Bear)....wore my Bama shirt under my fatigues in Vietnam every day...and will have my ashes spread on BRyant Denny...some anyway...
No...sir...our time hasnt come and gone...still right here....Roll Tide

Not you particularly, and God bless you for your service.

I'm just saying that the vast majority are offended when you stand and yell because they can't see the game from their seated position.

Not a season ticket holder myself, but I've gotten my hands on quite a few tickets over the years. No matter what section I was sitting in, there was a group of elderly fans in my section. They all have the same reaction.

 

[musso]

1) If they are circulating tickets, how do you propose they get people to move from one club to another? If there's a chance they will lose their spot, what's the point of upgrading the TP membership level.

I'll have to defer to others on these particulars. I don't know enough about such details.

2) This level of success is singularly attributed to the "old monied" patrons. Who do you think they went to when they were putting together the package for Saban?

Well, what were the aims of these patrons? To get Bama back on top, or to prevent opportunities to other passionate fans who also wish to attend games?

Look, I'm arguing as one who has benefited from the status quo. I have family members who over many, many years have let us occupy their seats when they cannot attend. Their seats are near the President's Box, covered with back support to the seats, etc. I don't know what the section is called, maybe TidePride (Section N I think)?? It's been a couple of seasons though since I last attended, so maybe there have been changes since then. BUT, if I'm honest, everyone in that section has usually been older, pretentious, entitled, and frankly terrible game-day fans. My philosophy is YOU'RE ATTENDING FOR THE TEAM'S SAKE, NOT TO BE ENTERTAINED! Either help affect the outcome of the game and salute the players out there on the field, or stay home!

So a balance is needed between rewarding the loyalty of generous donors, optimizing game-day atmosphere, AND expanding the fan base. Every program needs to take measures to preserve its status, and you do that by planting seeds for the expansion of fan support. For example, we live in a social media age, right? Think of how many photos are shared on game-days by fans at stadiums. Free advertisement! Think of the marketing benefits of widening game attendance and season-ticket status to a larger pool of fans able and willing to incur the onerous costs. So any school does itself a disservice if they are only accommodating the same circle of entitled fans every season. As one who would not personally benefit from such a change, I'm arguing as objectively as I can. The program's interest would be served if they implemented something incremental, nothing drastic of course.

 

[musso]

According to a Jan '15 article by Forbes, the waiting list at BAMA is 32,000+ with only 1.5% coming off each year.

Think of the marketing benefits of widening game attendance and season-ticket status to a larger pool of fans able and willing to incur the onerous costs. So any school does itself a disservice if they are only accommodating the same circle of entitled fans every season.