🏈 Brain excercise for this weekend: Schools with multiple coaches with multiple titles? Name them...

[TerryP]

As successful as Coach Stallings was here at Bama, it's a list he's not found on. But, Alabama can boast four head coaches who have won multiple titles in their tenure in Tuscaloosa—Wade, Thomas, Bryant, and Saban.

So, here's your "mission" for the next few days. How many schools can you name that have had multiple coaches win more than one national title?

I'll start with the easiest; Notre Dame has three—Knute Rockne, Ara Parseghian, and Frank Leahy. Another easy one is USC—Pete Carroll, John McKay, and Howard Jones.

Now, I'll eliminate one so you don't start looking at them—Dennis Erickson is the only coach at Miami to win more than one.

There are a couple of more out there that should come to mind, quickly. Who do you have?

 

[PhillyGirl]

Going to guess that Princeton and Harvard are on that list haha but I do not know their coaches off the top of my head.

Michigan has Kipke and of course, Yost (don't judge, used to like Wolverines football).

EDIT: Yale is up there too, I am sure they have multiples with multiples, but the only HC I can name is Walter Camp.

 

[planomateo]

Here are the other easy ones.

Darrell Royal @ Texas
Bob Devaney & Tom Osborne @ Nebraska

Are we talking real titles or claimed titles

 

[riz]

Oklahoma

 

[rick4bama]

Penn St. is one

 

[rick4bama]

Also Georgia with Butts.

 

[PhillyGirl]

Penn St. is one

Penn State's only titles came with Paterno. They don't have another coach with multiple titles. Or any titles.

 

[rick4bama]

Well them both of the ones I posted are wrong.

 

[TerryP]

I suppose I should have spelled out the requirements/question more specifically—multiple coaches with multiple titles, with at least very little dispute.

TEXAS: Royal? No doubt, multiple titles. Now, Mack Brown and Texas were voted national champs in 2008 by the GBE College Football Ratings and the Rogers Poll. Do you give him two along with 2005? (Can you tell me what the Rogers poll is?)

@planomateo — As I see this: TEXAS

@riz — Oklahoma √

Switzer and Wilkinson...that was one of those that came to mind quickly.

@rick4bama —If we count 1911 and 1912 Penn State qualifies.

Georgia? Georgia. You'd have to include Dooley and he only had one. Butts had one. (Houlgate, Sagarin, Litkenhous) Multiple titles is the disqualifier.

 

[TerryP]

@PhillyGirl — Michigan with Kipke in 1932? Debatable.

 

[PhillyGirl]

@PhillyGirl — Michigan with Kipke in 1932? Debatable.

You would give 1932 to just USC? (No Rose Bowl for Michigan due to Big 9 rules)

 

[TerryP]

You would give 1932 to just USC? (No Rose Bowl for Michigan due to Big 9 rules)

The reason I said it was debatable is Michigan played six teams with losing records (overall.) USC only played one.

 

[PhillyGirl]

I suppose I should have spelled out the requirements/question more specifically—multiple coaches with multiple titles, with at least very little dispute.

TEXAS: Royal? No doubt, multiple titles. Now, Mack Brown and Texas were voted national champs in 2008 by the GBE College Football Ratings and the Rogers Poll. Do you give him two along with 2005? (Can you tell me what the Rogers poll is?)

@planomateo — As I see this: TEXAS

@riz — Oklahoma √

Switzer and Wilkinson...that was one of those that came to mind quickly.

@rick4bama —If we count 1911 and 1912 Penn State qualifies.

Georgia? Georgia. You'd have to include Dooley and he only had one. Butts had one. (Houlgate, Sagarin, Litkenhous) Multiple titles is the disqualifier.

Penn State doesn't officially count 1911 and 1912. 1911 is "officially" listed as a Princeton win, 1912 as a Harvard win. Though, of course, this is further muddled by "retroactive championships".

So what exactly are the guidelines here, Terry? I feel like we should set a year to start from, since a lot of those older titles are (clearly) debatable and confusing!

 

[TerryP]

Penn State doesn't officially count 1911 and 1912. 1911 is "officially" listed as a Princeton win, 1912 as a Harvard win. Though, of course, this is further muddled by "retroactive championships".

So what exactly are the guidelines here, Terry? I feel like we should set a year to start from, since a lot of those older titles are (clearly) debatable and confusing!

Prior to 1936 there's no way to say "this counts, this doesn't." IF we were going to make rules this in-depth I'd have to say "what the school recognizes." However, my gut says "majority should rule."

Those years are interesting ones, no doubt. The NCF awarded two in both 1911 and 1912. One of the ones Penn State claims is a NCF title where they also awarded Princeton.

The NCF really gets confusing as you look through their selections. In 1981 every major poll picked Clemson but the NCF chose to award it to five teams that year. They gave Nebraska a share that year with three losses and one was to Clemson—an undefeated Clemson.

The point of this thread is more along the lines of looking at the rarefied air the program we support is in.

You want to get lost looking at this for a bit? How many decades can you find where Alabama hasn't been awarded a national title? When you find that number see how many programs have similar records.

 

[PhillyGirl]

Ah, but therein lies the next problem .. How many of ALABAMA's national championships "count"? ead Horse: opcorn2: