📡 Baylor: 2/6 Update: New coach arrested in prostitution sting

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The allegations span 2011 to 2014 and include a significant number of incidents

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[bama alum]

Wow! You think Gus and perhaps others knew this before the rumor of Briles to the barn surfaced?

 

[planomateo]

Kiffin's job got a bit more complicated...

I'm surprised one of the dad's hasn't taken on the role of judge/jury/executioner.

 

[OldPlayer]

It's a terrible situation. Now, does the NCAA step in or is this a legal matter? Just like Paterno and Penn State, should this be handled as a criminal matter? Does the NCAA have a rule about rape and cover up?

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

It's a terrible situation. Now, does the NCAA step in or is this a legal matter? Just like Paterno and Penn State, should this be handled as a criminal matter? Does the NCAA have a rule about rape and cover up?

Aren't there morals clauses though?

And then there's the whole blatantly systemic lack of institutional control.

If any school deserved a modern-day death penalty, it's Baylor. This makes my fucking stomach turn.

 

[JoshB]

Aren't there morals clauses though?

And then there's the whole blatantly systemic lack of institutional control.

If any school deserved a modern-day death penalty, it's Baylor. This makes my ******* stomach turn.

If they dont get the death penalty, no one will again. Ever.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

If they dont get the death penalty, no one will again. Ever.

Time for the gestapo to show if they have any teeth anymore.

 

[Max]

 

[BAMANEWSBOT]

Lyn Wheeler Kinyon alleges improper firing by Baylor.

A former financial aid officer at Baylor filed a federal Title IX lawsuit against the university on Wednesday, claiming she was fired in retaliation for reinstating a football player's scholarship she states was improperly revoked because of allegations of a sexual assault that had not yet been investigated.

The suit was filed by Lyn Wheeler Kinyon, former assistant vice president for student financial aid. It states that after the appeal committee she chaired voted on July 6 to reinstate the scholarship, her new supervisor met with her two months later to complain about her performance and ended up firing her in November.

The football player in question isn't named in the lawsuit, but the situation Kinyon describes matches the account of former Baylor defensive tackle Jeremy Faulk. Several sources have told Outside the Lines in prior interviews that Baylor administrators revoked Faulk's scholarship after hearing about the sexual assault allegations, even though the school's Title IX office had not yet notified Faulk that he was under investigation, an assertion Faulk also made in earlier interviews with ESPN.

Ex-aid officer files Title IX lawsuit against Baylor

 

[XXL TideFan]

At least the football players didn't have a textbook scam running.

 

[BamaFan334]

That would mean more than one player committed multiple acts of rape if my math is correct. I mean, fuck, when do you as a human being start to think enough is enough if one issue doesn't trigger it. We've all heard stories of one instance of a problem getting seept under the rug, but 51?!? I'd discontinue that sports program, fire anyone remotely involved, and then watch the school and town itself go under. Of course nothing should be bigger than humanity and civility, though a lot of times people think so.

 

[sean]

That would mean more than one player committed multiple acts of rape if my math is correct. I mean, ****, when do you as a human being start to think enough is enough if one issue doesn't trigger it. We've all heard stories of one instance of a problem getting seept under the rug, but 51?!? I'd discontinue that sports program, fire anyone remotely involved, and then watch the school and town itself go under. Of course nothing should be bigger than humanity and civility, though a lot of times people think so.

could not agree more with this!

too many times people put something like an entire sports program or money above humanity. that needs to stop. and i can tell you that if i was a parent of one of the victims, i would no everything short of invading that campus and D.C. to make sure it did. i would get everyone involved i could think of, then i would take a trip to D.C. and step in front of congress and urge them to take control of this place and demand something be done, or my next call would be to every news outlet and station in the country. i would talk to anyone who would be willing to listen, and yell at anyone not willing to listen. i would be relentless in my pursuits. i would sell my car, my house, all my possessions, AND my soul to get it done.

something this deplorable should never go unnoticed now should the guilty go unpunished just because they're good at sports. i would make it my mission in life to destroy the reputation and character of anyone involved in the commission of or cover-up of these acts. and i would not rest until that program got the death penalty. and by that, i mean that it is shut down permanently and never be allowed to play the game again at that school.

and before anyone asks, YES, i would want the same thing to happen at Alabama if it was our school/players that this was about.

 

[EasyTider]

Joe Mixon is disgusted by Baylor football

 

[TerryP]

It's a terrible situation. Now, does the NCAA step in or is this a legal matter? Just like Paterno and Penn State, should this be handled as a criminal matter? Does the NCAA have a rule about rape and cover up?

Up until the report of yesterday I felt the same way about Baylor as I did Penn State--it's not the jurisdicition of the NCAA enforcement staff. However, that stance has changed a bit with the latest release.

My opinion here isn't shaped by the rape allegations. I still feel that's not a part of the NCAA's realm. But, if we look at the reports of their defensive end Tevin Elliott and how he was caught and cited for plagerism? Tell me how a regular student, charged with plagerism twice, would still be allowed in any school? Hell, the first charge is good enough for expulsion at the majority of the schools. But twice?

I see no more clear evidence of an athlete receiving treatment that's different from a regular student. That's a NCAA violation. That's an improper benefit.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Say what you will about the ongoing Title IX cases that are coming out of this and multiple rape allegations, Baylor may have just had the best recruiting class in the nation under the dire circumstances that exist. The NCAA overreacted in the Penn St. scandal and even felt the need to reassess and reduce a lot of the punitive damage done to the university and sports program. I don't see them rushing into this one with the same indignation. Whatever comes of this legally, I don't expect much at all from the NCAA. Personally, if that was the vibe, I don't think Matt Rhule would have made the leap to Waco and I don't get the sense that the incoming freshmen expect the NCAA to be as heavy handed as State College.

 

[sean]

more information about this whole......i don't even know what to call it anymore.

Docs: Art Briles, Baylor officials actively involved in covering up player incidents

 

[18Champs]

 

[TerryP]

Reading through different opinions today I'm struck my the umbrage I'm seeing from different writers. I'm not saying it's misplaced. I get the feeling they're all asking, "how could this happen at a school like Baylor?"

I can't help but recall what was going on with the basketball program 15 years ago. A player getting murdered, the murderer having his tuition paid by the head coach. The head coach lying, pretending he was the murderers father so he could see if they were on to him paying the tuition, the allegations he threw around about said murderer being a drug dealer, Bliss trying to talk the mother into lying about those 18K plus in illegal benefits, so on, and so on, and so on ...

To me, this seems very systematic.

 

[Tidestalker]

Keyword: Alleges.

I'm sure some of these allegations are legit. But again, allegations...years have gone by... money involved... etc.

I'd also like to point out that every football (or male athletic) program in the country has real issues that never make it public. Alabama included. When you're dealing with 100+ college age males, college girls, alcohal, drugs, etc.... Sh*t happens. Coaches are dealing with stuff year round and we hear about a fraction of what actually happens.

 

[TerryP]

OTL: NCAA inquiry into Baylor scandal ongoing

NCAA enforcement staff has interviewed former Baylor administrators, Title IX investigators and some of the women who alleged football players sexually assaulted them, as it continues to investigate whether its rules were violated during the school's sexual assault scandal, sources familiar with the investigation told Outside the Lines on Friday.

Sources said NCAA investigators haven't yet focused on specific allegations of wrongdoing, instead casting a wide net to determine if any NCAA rules might have been violated. The NCAA is also asking whether Baylor players might have been provided improper recruiting inducements and other illegal benefits while playing for the Bears.

An NCAA spokesman declined to comment when reached by ESPN on Friday. A Baylor spokesman also declined comment; the NCAA discourages its member schools from commenting on ongoing investigations.

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