🏈 Bama DB Nigel Knott entering transfer portal

[rocknthefreeworld]

Hasn't really played much and was out this year to a medical redshirt. Probably best for all involved as we need room and he wants to play.

 

[Tidestalker]

Hasn't really played much and was out this year to a medical redshirt. Probably best for all involved as we need room and he wants to play.

Talented dude... Things may have been different if not for the injury issues. Wouldn't shock me at all to see him do well wherever he lands

 

[#80]

It's unfortunate he had so much promise with all that athletic ability.

 

[rick4bama]

Best of luck!

 

[TerryP]

Hasn't really played much and was out this year to a medical redshirt

I don't believe you can return to active at a school where you've received a waiver.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

 

[JoshB]

I was under the impression his medical issues were going to cause him not to play anymore?

 

[Tidestalker]

I don't believe you can return to active at a school where you've received a waiver.

Josh McMillon....?

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

I don't believe you can return to active at a school where you've received a waiver.

Could be. Not sure. Could even be that Bama would not clear him but someone else might.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

I believe the deal is if you're moved to a medical scholly and then moved back to a normal scholly then you had better have had one open scholly (84 and not 85) on your limits otherwise the NCAA is going to get you. They don't want schools playing with numbers to get any advantage. I don't believe Bama has ever moved a player that was moved to a medical scholly back to a normal scholly. I am not even sure this guy was ever moved to a medical anyway. He just wasn't cleared to play which is much different.

 

[94 Grad]

I don't believe you can return to active at a school where you've received a waiver.

I believe the deal is if you're moved to a medical scholly and then moved back to a normal scholly then you had better have had one open scholly (84 and not 85) on your limits otherwise the NCAA is going to get you. They don't want schools playing with numbers to get any advantage. I don't believe Bama has ever moved a player that was moved to a medical scholly back to a normal scholly. I am not even sure this guy was ever moved to a medical anyway. He just wasn't cleared to play which is much different.

To be moved to a medical scholarship, the medical staff has to declare he isn't able to be cleared to ever play again. IE he isn't eligible to "return" to the program. He would get to keep his scholarship, but wouldn't count toward the 85 limits nor would he be able to participate with the team. The player can forgo the medical scholarship and transfer if he wants to try and clear at a different program.

This is completely different than a 6th year Wavier that grants a 6th year of eligibility to a player that lost 2 years to injury... this is the waiver McMillon received. Instead of the normal 5 years to play 4, he was granted 6 years to play 4.

As for a medical red shirt or more correctly, a medical hardship waiver... those do not exists anymore in football at least. It used to be that if you got injured in one of the 1st 4 games (1st 30% of season) of the year that ended your participation for that year, you could apply for a medical waiver and those games would be be removed from that year of playing... IE you lose a year on the time clock (5yrs. still becomes 4yrs), but you don't lose a year on the eligible clock (4 doesn't become 3). Current rules allow you to play 4 games in a year and not count it towards your 4 year eligibility clock so a medical hardship waiver is pointless.

I don't know what was the issue with Knott... so I can't dive into his situation to deep, but from what Saban has said in past pressers

"He's in school here, we want to support him and help him get an education. He was a very good teammate for a lot of our players. He worked hard, did a good job in this program, but the medical staff felt like it was not in his best interest to continue to play football."

It sounds like he was moved to a Medical Scholarship and because of that I don't believe he is able to return to the program. Maybe there are exceptions, but I've not ever heard of one in my limited experience.

 

[TerryP]

Josh McMillon....?

Knott went on medical scholly ... I'm not sure why I typed waiver.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

To be moved to a medical scholarship, the medical staff has to declare he isn't able to be cleared to ever play again. IE he isn't eligible to "return" to the program. He would get to keep his scholarship, but wouldn't count toward the 85 limits nor would he be able to participate with the team. The player can forgo the medical scholarship and transfer if he wants to try and clear at a different program.

This is completely different than a 6th year Wavier that grants a 6th year of eligibility to a player that lost 2 years to injury... this is the waiver McMillon received. Instead of the normal 5 years to play 4, he was granted 6 years to play 4.

As for a medical red shirt or more correctly, a medical hardship waiver... those do not exists anymore in football at least. It used to be that if you got injured in one of the 1st 4 games (1st 30% of season) of the year that ended your participation for that year, you could apply for a medical waiver and those games would be be removed from that year of playing... IE you lose a year on the time clock (5yrs. still becomes 4yrs), but you don't lose a year on the eligible clock (4 doesn't become 3). Current rules allow you to play 4 games in a year and not count it towards your 4 year eligibility clock so a medical hardship waiver is pointless.

I don't know what was the issue with Knott... so I can't dive into his situation to deep, but from what Saban has said in past pressers It sounds like he was moved to a Medical Scholarship and because of that I don't believe he is able to return to the program. Maybe there are exceptions, but I've not ever heard of one in my limited experience.

If Bama had say 84 on scholly the entire time that Knott was on the mend (moved to medical scholly) then he could return and all would be ok. The NCAA doesn't want you trying to game the numbers.

 

[EasyTider]

Surprised that our medical staff can decide it’s too dangerous for him to play and another staff willing to clear him. I guess people get better and there is always the ‘2nd opinion’.

 

[bama alum]

Surprised that our medical staff can decide it’s too dangerous for him to play and another staff willing to clear him. I guess people get better and there is always the ‘2nd opinion’.

That happened a couple of years ago with a player whose name I've now completely forgotten. Complete head scratcher.

 

[Tidestalker]

Surprised that our medical staff can decide it’s too dangerous for him to play and another staff willing to clear him. I guess people get better and there is always the ‘2nd opinion’.

Can't blame the kid for finding a way... As long as he knows the risks.

@TerryP I see the difference now, I was confused myself.

 

[UAgrad93]

That happened a couple of years ago with a player whose name I've now completely forgotten. Complete head scratcher.

Zeke Knight did it around the 1st or 2nd year Saban was here. He transferred out and played at a smaller school.

 

[bama alum]

Zeke Knight did it around the 1st or 2nd year Saban was here. He transferred out and played at a smaller school.

Yes, that's whom I meant. Thanks!

 

[TerryP]

If Bama had say 84 on scholly the entire time that Knott was on the mend (moved to medical scholly) then he could return and all would be ok. The NCAA doesn't want you trying to game the numbers.

When he was put on medical scholarship he was no longer a part of the program. I don't think it's possible for a player to return to a school/program that's declared him medically unfit to play. By allowing schools to place a player on medicals scholarship and then allow the same school to put him back on athletic scholarship a year later would be gaming the system.

However, even if it was possible, it wouldn't' be as simple as rejoining the team. If he were to rejoin the Tide, he'd have to count against the initials (with very little room to speak of right now.)

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

As TerryP said, looking at the rules, he could probably technically return to Bama from a medical scholarship. But he would backcount as a scholly the entire time to ensure we weren't fudging numbers to stay in the limits. Bama would not have room for him to do that without causing issues so he would have to go elsewhere in order to play. I also can't tell if he got a doctor to clear him or if Bama's doctors cleared him (probably the former). Always possible he got a doc to say he was good but Bama disagrees. He should graduate this spring so he could play immediately somewhere.