šŸˆ Auburn hires Bryan Harsin as head coach.

If Steele ends up joining Beamer at USCe...holy shit.....the barn is fucked. Not that they weren't fucked anyway. But, that is going to really put them behind the eight ball. Does Malcontent bring back Muschamp? How stupid would the barn look then, bringing a guy who burned them TWICE back for a third go round? In which he would bolt again after one season anyway, burning their dumb asses yet again. Maybe Ted Roof could come back? Ellis Johnson? Brian Van Gorder? My money is on Steele leaving. So, shit is about to get entertaining as hell.
 
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Need to be careful if the cow pasture/Barn burns down completely they may get a real coach so lets let it only smolder but not completely burn down.

As far as the players go, they made the decision to go their so I have not sympathy for them. The Nixes of the world knew who they were partnering with but decided to go anyway. None of these WR's/QB's should be surprised. Decisions have consequences.
 
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I don't think auburn is going to pony up and fire Gus this season (because I don't think they can afford it), but they want to IMO. People much smarter than me though think it is more likely than not that he is fired after next week's game. Putting 2 x 2 together, I think it'll come down to if they can get a "yes" from who they want before they do anything, which is Freeze. But Freeze would be smart to wait another year and drive his price up some (and have the opportunity at the Vol job that he apparently still wants). Also, would Freeze want to be the guy that bumped Gus, who he is somewhat close with? As for Steele, apparently he and Gus don't have the best of relationships these days, but that's not really all that unusual in their situations. But as mentioned, he makes really good money. At one point, the USA job was desirable to him, but not so sure now? Regardless, they can do better anyway. But, if he leaves, and Gus is retained, it will be interesting to see who he can get to run the defense. One, he's looked at as a lame duck coach now. Two, very seriously doubt auburn gives a new DC a very lucrative contract (refer to point one). Three, Gus' coaching rolodex only has about 3 cards in it, and one of those is Keven Steele. He doesn't know anyone and doesn't trust anyone he doesn't know. They'd probably end up promoting from within and adding another former player to the staff or some such.
 
I don't think auburn is going to pony up and fire Gus this season (because I don't think they can afford it), but they want to IMO. People much smarter than me though think it is more likely than not that he is fired after next week's game. Putting 2 x 2 together, I think it'll come down to if they can get a "yes" from who they want before they do anything, which is Freeze. But Freeze would be smart to wait another year and drive his price up some (and have the opportunity at the Vol job that he apparently still wants). Also, would Freeze want to be the guy that bumped Gus, who he is somewhat close with? As for Steele, apparently he and Gus don't have the best of relationships these days, but that's not really all that unusual in their situations. But as mentioned, he makes really good money. At one point, the USA job was desirable to him, but not so sure now? Regardless, they can do better anyway. But, if he leaves, and Gus is retained, it will be interesting to see who he can get to run the defense. One, he's looked at as a lame duck coach now. Two, very seriously doubt auburn gives a new DC a very lucrative contract (refer to point one). Three, Gus' coaching rolodex only has about 3 cards in it, and one of those is Keven Steele. He doesn't know anyone and doesn't trust anyone he doesn't know. They'd probably end up promoting from within and adding another former player to the staff or some such.
Who of quality would honestly think working under Gus would be a good thing. There might be some lower tier or high school coaches that are not big names that might end up being good but not a given.
 
Who of quality would honestly think working under Gus would be a good thing. There might be some lower tier or high school coaches that are not big names that might end up being good but not a given.

It's a good job in a bad situation, with a guy who has very minimal coaching connections and doesn't like to hire people he isn't very familiar with. Not an ideal situation, but I have my doubts that Steele leaves.
 
Some really big issues with Marshall...
....2013....AU won 2 games vs #1...but beat them?...really.... .i think they endedup with 3-4 miracle wins that year...
..."Auburn Football Family". I puke everytime i hear "family" in reference to a sports team... What does that mean anyway...? Its stupid! And whywould you wantto fire the patriarch of your family... families are loving and understanding...add 7 years tohis contract if heis family...show compassion...make it about something other than winning
..."AUhas been pretty good most seasons since Malzahn arrived".... aghhhh...make that mediocre since he arrived...the3 miracle wins vs bama has saved his ass
7 seasons with 4+ loses is not pretty good....adding in some really blowout losses...

Better than fire gus,...fire this stupid writer....
Love ya dude...

but your posting format makes my eyes bleed.
 
Jay Tate weighs in and I'm sorry for the difficulty to read, he is who he is.


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Hello again, friends.

It's been a difficult season of tackle football on the Plains, what with the Tigers going winless against ranked teams, getting throttled in the Iron Bowl and now attempting to rally for a winning record ... at Mississippi State.

Yes, things have been better.

This Is Auburn. Its supporters are used to the ups and downs — the Final Four followed by postseason ban, an Iron Bowl victory valued at $49 million immediately followed by consecutive losses to Georgia and Central Florida, a Women's College World Series loss featuring an error from the most sure-handed second baseman you've ever seen.

To be an Auburn supporter is to subconsciously crave pain because, well, that's where things lead.

Which is an interesting juxtaposition considering the way many (or perhaps most) Auburn people feel about the football program right now. They're weary. They want to be hopeful, they want to see the Tigers scoring touchdowns and slobber-knocking some poor fellow who thought an away game inside Jordan-Hare Stadium would be a good opportunity.

Still, they haven't seen much of that. Not nearly enough, anyway.

If you've kept up with this saga for the past two years — see below for links to this series' previous nine installments — you know that coach Gus Malzahn has his fair share of detractors. These influential people have been concentrated into a small bloc that co-exists among a larger group of similarly influential people who, until just recently, were mostly neutral when it came to the issue of critically assessing Malzahn's future.

Before we get too far down this road, understand that most of the People Who Are Done With Gus (the DWGs) generally like Malzahn as a person. Auburn's head coach is a good man, a principled person who has put effort into becoming a better leader and a more relatable human being. You'd be hard-pressed to find many people who take umbrage with the person Malzahn is.

The coach that Malzahn is? Much umbrage exists.

The DWGs have been down on Malzahn The Coach for at least two years now and pushed very hard for a change as the 2018 season reached its conclusion. Malzahn was spared then because his buyout clause was massive (>$32 million) and university president Steven Leath, who approved the deal in December 2017 that bore Malzahn's massive buyout clause, essentially blocked any chance at a change. He did this mostly out of self-preservation since he was (figuratively) on the hook for that buyout money Malzahn had Malzahn been ousted.

Pat Dye and his Auburn teams of the 1980s didn't wrassle with them angels to settle for mediocrity.

The DWGs remained at least somewhat salty as the 2019 season reached its conclusion, but Auburn ended the regular season with a thrilling win against Alabama and a 9-3 record overall. The neutral parties were fine with the football program's performance at that stage.

That brings us to 2020. Auburn was hammered by Georgia, lost on the road to a terrible South Carolina team. Things looked bad. Then the Tigers demoralized LSU. Things looked fine. They beat Tennessee. Things looked pretty good.

The Iron Bowl was a dumpster fire and ended with Alabama 29 points to the good. The DWGs were as impassioned as ever. They were fully convinced that Malzahn no longer was fit to lead Auburn. They wanted to curry some favor, but neutrals weren't really listening.

The game against Texas A&M last weekend was far more competitive, but a fourth-quarter surge allowed the Aggies to take command late and win by 11 points. That represented Auburn's fourth loss of the season.

Now the DWGs were incensed.

I'm still not sure if the A&M loss itself had a huge effect on neutrals, but something else did. After the game, Malzahn was asked about how his team's goals had been impacted by this latest loss.

Prior to the game, he said the goal was 7-3.

Now he'd been forced to adjust his aim down another rung.

"It’ll be the next best, the 6-4," Malzahn said. "That’s what it’ll be, 6-4, and if you had a normal non-conference schedule, it’d be a solid year."

A solid year? A 6-4 season, a disappointment by even the most wide-eyed Pollyanna, was being normalized by the head coach. Pat Dye and his Auburn teams of the 1980s didn't wrassle with them angels to settle for mediocrity. Dye won four SEC championships. He pushed the expectations ahead, gave Auburn fans a belief that they deserved to be perennial challengers.

One day later, Malzahn worked to control the message by saying that his goal always has been to compete for championships. Still, the damage had been done.

A group of neutrals had a moment of clarity at some point Sunday or perhaps Monday morning. The DWBs' protestations suddenly made sense to them. They weren't necessarily radicalized by this realization, but they suddenly found themselves amenable to the idea that change is needed.

One word did most of that. Solid. A solid season.

Is he serious?

Forecasting how these situations play out is exceedingly difficult. I was convinced in 2018 that Malzahn's goose was cooked. I later likened Malzahn's escape to something from Harry Houdini, a comparison that drew a chuckle from Malzahn when we discussed the situation months later. I'm still shocked that Leath was able to quell the uprising.

Leath isn't here anymore.

I look around for someone willing to quell the uprising this time and I don't see him or her. The only people even potentially in position are current president Jay Gogue, who generally prefers to avoid drama, and athletic director Allen Greene, who also prefers to avoid drama. Considering the growing number of Malzahn doubters and the lack of any apparent force capable (or willing) to create a scene to calm things down, this week has the look of Malzahn's last stand.

It goes even a bit deeper. Toss aside all the political overtones and the blocs and the protestations, this program simply looks like it's headed toward a standstill.

• The team's performance is off

• The organization lacks unity of purpose

• Recruiting has taken a sharp turn downward

When those three trends occur concurrently — something we saw in 1998, 2008, 2012 and again right now — you know the situation is dire. It's a solvable problem, but does Malzahn have the ability to engineer a fix? Can he inspire better from his players and his staff and himself?

There is risk involved with spending $30+ million to replace this staff and fill the ensuing vacancy, but there also is risk associated with keeping this staff. Alabama is Alabama. Arkansas is playing better football. Same for Ole Miss. Texas A&M is in the playoff hunt. Mike Leach is going to create at least some measure of havoc in Starkville.

It really comes down to the D.U.F.F. principle; every clique has a designated ugly, fat friend.

If you don't know who the DUFF is, it's you
 
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AUBURN, Alabama – The statement didn’t really grab my attention during head coach Gus Malzahn’s postgame Zoom conference after last Saturday’s 31-20 loss to Texas A&M at Jordan-Hare Stadium. Clearly, it should have.

Malzahn had said after a 42-13 loss at Alabama that his team’s goal would be to win out and go 7-3. After the loss to Texas A&M, he made an obvious statement about changing goals: "It’ll be the next best, the 6-4.ā€ That was an obvious thing to say because, at that point, 6-4 was the best record available. Maybe that’s why the rest of that statement didn’t register with me as it should have.

"That’s what it’ll be, 6-4,ā€ Malzahn said, ā€œand if you had a normal non-conference schedule, it’d be a solid year."

That was a mistake. Malzahn tried to walk it back Sunday and talk about championships, but words once spoken can’t be erased. If you are the head football coach at Auburn University, your words matter. Always.

Auburn people weren’t going to go along with the idea that a season in which the Tigers were outscored 100-39 by Alabama, Georgia and Texas A&M being anything other than disappointing. They weren’t going to appreciate the word ā€œsolidā€ being used in any way about a 5-4 record that includes no wins over teams with winning records and a loss to South Carolina, whose only other victim is Vanderbilt.

Malzahn’s words have reverberated through the Auburn fan base. People are sick of four and five-loss seasons. They just are.

And those who will have much to say about Malzahn’s future heard those words, too. Those who want him gone weren’t going to change their minds, regardless of what he said. But Malzahn’s words hardened their resolve and maybe won them more supporters from people who matter. And his words, unquestionably, added another level of agitation, frustration and rage among the masses.

That’s another reason, as I write this, that Malzahn’s job status is the subject of intense speculation. No one should interpret this as any hint that I know what is going to happen. I don’t know. I believe president Jay Gogue is sticking to his long-held policy of not making a decision until the season is over. But I know Malzahn is now faced with needing to make a great escape for the second time in three years.

To be sure, Malzahn has done good things, even great things against the most challenging of schedules. He has three wins over teams ranked No. 1 in the nation. He won an SEC championship in 2013 and played for the national championship. He is the only Auburn coach in modern times to have winning records in each of his first eight seasons. He made history by beating two teams ranked No. 1 in a three-year period.

The NCAA hasn’t come calling on Malzahn’s program. His players have represented themselves and the program well. Malzahn deserves credit for those things, But memories are short, especially when the coach makes $7 million a year. Meanwhile, in a time of turmoil among the masses, Malzahn must try to get his players, certainly not unaware of the debate, ready to play on Saturday at Mississippi State.
 
Funny how Terry Bowden, who had just gotten a nice raise AND contract extension, (complete with a pretty big buyout) was fired for a 1-5 start in 1998. He was told that even if he somehow won out that season, he was finished. Granted, that was a different time, different AD, different president, etc. But, it just underscores that there was a time when 5 loss seasons were NOT acceptable there. And Bowden had just come off of a 10 win season in 1997 in which they had won the SEC West and were within a point of winning the SEC.
 
Funny how Terry Bowden, who had just gotten a nice raise AND contract extension, (complete with a pretty big buyout) was fired for a 1-5 start in 1998. He was told that even if he somehow won out that season, he was finished. Granted, that was a different time, different AD, different president, etc. But, it just underscores that there was a time when 5 loss seasons were NOT acceptable there. And Bowden had just come off of a 10 win season in 1997 in which they had won the SEC West and were within a point of winning the SEC.

And, to his credit from a character standpoint and as a contributor to his decline, he stopped player payments as he became aware of them.
 
Wasn't it Pat Dye that said the Barn could play for 500 years and not have the tradition that Bama has? Getting old so maybe I dreamed that up but even if I did it is true.

Hate to see the momentum building to make a change. They will push hard for Freeze and may come after Sark. They would do anything to put a dent in the machine.
 
Wasn't it Pat Dye that said the Barn could play for 500 years and not have the tradition that Bama has? Getting old so maybe I dreamed that up but even if I did it is true.

Hate to see the momentum building to make a change. They will push hard for Freeze and may come after Sark. They would do anything to put a dent in the machine.

things at Tennessee and AU could get interesting...if they both were to lose this weekend.....but unlikely if both win...
Maybe sara will kick winning FG for vandy vs TN......that would be awesome
 
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