šŸˆ Army-Navy Game on Thanksgiving weekend? Navy AD not a fan of idea. - Capital Gazette

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Army football coach Jeff Monken made headlines this week when he suggested moving ā€œAmerica’s Gameā€ to Thanksgiving Day or weekend.

In an interview with The Athletic, Monken said playing the Army-Navy Game the fourth weekend of November instead of the second Saturday of December would make it easier for the two service academies to participate in the postseason.

Contacted Tuesday morning, Navy athletic director Michael Kelly said he was ā€œsurprisedā€ by Monken’s comments and was not a fan of his idea.

ā€œI’m always open-minded to different options, but I’m not supportive of the Thanksgiving suggestion,ā€ Kelly said. ā€œI think that would be really detrimental to our revenue potential in terms of viewership and sponsorship.ā€

As it stands now, the American Conference championship game is held the Saturday before the Army-Navy Game, while the College Football Playoff begins one weekend later.

Navy played in the American Conference championship game in 2016 and had multiple starters, including quarterback Will Worth get injured against Temple. Navy then got upset by Army the following Saturday at M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore.

Army beat Tulane to capture the American Conference championship in 2024 then turned around and lost to Navy one week later at Northwest Stadium in Landover.

ā€œI think Army-Navy is a huge part of the history of college football, and what it is today, even. Give us a four-hour block on Thanksgiving, or on Friday of Thanksgiving, or on Saturday of Thanksgiving, and give us a four-hour block, and just say nobody else plays during this four-hour block,ā€ Monken said. ā€œThat’s still protecting the game.ā€

There has been much speculation about how the possible expansion of the College Football Playoff would impact the Army-Navy Game. If the College Football Playoff expands, there is a good chance first-round games would be played on the second Saturday in December.

ā€œThe problem becomes if they expand the playoffs, or they move the playoffs to start at an earlier date, that would essentially force us to say, OK, do you play in the playoffs, or do you play the Army-Navy game,ā€ Monken said. ā€œWell, what kind of decision is that? We want to do both. So the only way we can do both is to move the Army-Navy game to Thanksgiving weekend.ā€

Kelly pointed out that every Football Bowl Subdivision program currently plays during Thanksgiving week, making it virtually impossible to provide Army-Navy with an exclusive television window. Playing on Thanksgiving Day does not make any sense because that would put Army-Navy up against three NFL games, Kelly said.

ā€œWhile I understand the rationale and recognize the need to be flexible, I’m just not supportive of playing the Army-Navy Game on Thanksgiving weekend. I think it’s premature to jump to that holiday, which I don’t think would work,ā€ Kelly said. ā€œThere is a reason why large-scale, neutral site college football games aren’t held around Thanksgiving. There are other better options that can be considered and discussed moving forward.ā€

Not only does Kelly believe playing on Thanksgiving Day or the weekend after would hurt television ratings, he also believes it could impact attendance. Kelly noted there are numerous events held during the week leading up to the Army-Navy Game.

ā€œI really think it would reduce the size of our crowd, not just for the game but also all the ancillary events because so many folks travel and have family gatherings surrounding a major holiday like that,ā€ he said.

You can bet that an Army-Navy Game played the fourth weekend of November would not sit well with the student bodies of the two service academies.

ā€œMost importantly, it would deprive the Brigade of Midshipmen and Corps of Cadets of a well deserved Thanksgiving holiday with the family and would be very unpopular in that regard,ā€ Kelly said.

Kelly and Army counterpart Tom Theodorakis have addressed the potential impact College Football Playoff expansion would have on America’s Game. Both athletic directors told The Capital Gazette in mid-December, following the 2025 Army-Navy Game, that they must be proactive in protecting it.

ā€œAs we have stated many times before, America’s Game is very unique and special and not just for the two participating academies. It is an opportunity to showcase and salute our country’s military,ā€ Kelly said. ā€œIt certainly deserves an exclusive window, that’s for sure. I’m confident the game can be maintained into the future while giving Army and Navy the opportunity to participate in the College Football Playoff when warranted.ā€

Contacted Monday night, Theodorakis maintained the same stance he took in December when he said Army and Navy needed to conduct due diligence with regard to playoff expansion and be prepared to respond to any changes. Theodorakis had talked about ā€œstaying ahead of the curveā€ and making sure the sport’s power brokers recognize the importance of Army-Navy.

ā€œBoth service academies want to compete for conference championships, play the Army-Navy Game on the biggest stage possible and have an avenue to play in the College Football Playoff when warranted,ā€ Theodorakis said Monday night. ā€œI’m confident we can make all those things happen even if the landscape changes.ā€

Southeastern Conference commissioner Greg Sankey and Big Ten Conference counterpart Tony Petitti are at an impasse about College Football Playoff expansion. Sankey favors a 16-team field featuring five conference champions and 11 at-large teams. Petitti has floated a 24-team field loaded with automatic berths.

In meetings held around the national championship game in Miami this past January, Petitti and Sankey could not come to an agreement and the College Football Playoff will remain in its current 12-team format for the 2026 season.

That means there is no impact whatsoever on the 127th Army-Navy Game, which is scheduled for Dec. 12 at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey.

ā€œIf the College Football Playoff does expand then we have to be flexible and consider all the potential options,ā€ Theodorakis said. ā€œNothing has changed on my end on this topic. There’s really no point in talking about hypotheticals at this time.ā€
 
I remember reading where Army v Navy had a little under a 20% decrease in viewers last season. It wasn't quite 8 million, but within a couple of a hundred thousand of that mark.

The Big 12 had nine million and the SEC and B1G almost doubled that of the game viewers.

So, let's move a game that stands alone to compete with games they already lose to in viewing numbers? I think it's probably safe to say, based on what we just saw with the USA and the Olympic teams, patriotism isn't going to move the proverbial dial.
 
I understand his feelings about a loss of viewership and revenue. Most people want to be with their families on Thanksgiving Day or evening. A blended family has several places they have to go to keep everyone happy. I know personally, my daughter in law has to make appearances at her moms, dads and then they come to our place for an evening meal.

As far as the game goes itself, I always watch the parade of cadets when they march into the stadium and maybe a little bit of the game. To me, it is not must watch TV for a game.
 
Ok. 1200 if on Saturday
Prime time on weekdays
I see a legitimate point when the playoffs are mentioned. Having their game after we see the conference championships would put them at a disadvantage if for no other reason than rest and prep time.

On the other end of this argument is where I'm falling. That one Saturday when the game IS Army v Navy...I've enjoyed watching that game as a "closure" to the regular season. As they speak of revenue they're suggesting moving to a TV window where they won't have as many viewers. That doesn't make sense to me.
 
I see a legitimate point when the playoffs are mentioned. Having their game after we see the conference championships would put them at a disadvantage if for no other reason than rest and prep time.

On the other end of this argument is where I'm falling. That one Saturday when the game IS Army v Navy...I've enjoyed watching that game as a "closure" to the regular season. As they speak of revenue they're suggesting moving to a TV window where they won't have as many viewers. That doesn't make sense to me.
....but....people that want to watch.......Will watch.......regardless.....
Unless...their team or a game of importance....is on..
Or....if its "the only show in town" ....may get more viewers...

It would be something to see live....for sure
 
I see a legitimate point when the playoffs are mentioned. Having their game after we see the conference championships would put them at a disadvantage if for no other reason than rest and prep time.

On the other end of this argument is where I'm falling. That one Saturday when the game IS Army v Navy...I've enjoyed watching that game as a "closure" to the regular season. As they speak of revenue they're suggesting moving to a TV window where they won't have as many viewers. That doesn't make sense to me.
I'm on the other end of the argument as you say. Give them their day. I mean if they routinely made the playoffs it may be different but I'd think the guaranteed revenue from that game beats maybe one cfp entrance in a blue moon if ever. If they turn the playoffs into a basketball style situation then sure, change it but for now enjoy the spotlight for a day.
 
I'm on the other end of the argument as you say. Give them their day. I mean if they routinely made the playoffs it may be different but I'd think the guaranteed revenue from that game beats maybe one cfp entrance in a blue moon if ever. If they turn the playoffs into a basketball style situation then sure, change it but for now enjoy the spotlight for a day.
Name another game that gets a thread all to itself on most social media sports sites on any weekend...much less, this one weekend. A bowling site has a thread about the game.
 
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