🏈 Are our DB's taught to NOT turn their heads in defending passes?

[BigCrimson]

I just finished watching the Georgia game again and outside of Humphrey turning his head in the second half for the int. None of our DB's when defending passes make any sort of attempt to turn their heads. Is this something that is coached? I've also noticed this same thing in other games. The DB never looks for the ball and the WR has a free path to get the ball. And many times we're flagged for pass interference for not playing the ball.

 

[Bamabrock]

Inexperience

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[BigCrimson]

Cyrus Jones is one of the main offenders. "Youth" shouldn't be his issue.

 

[JoshB]

I just finished watching the Georgia game again and outside of Humphrey turning his head in the second half for the int. None of our DB's when defending passes make any sort of attempt to turn their heads. Is this something that is coached? I've also noticed this same thing in other games. The DB never looks for the ball and the WR has a free path to get the ball. And many times we're flagged for pass interference for not playing the ball.

Cyrus Jones has no problem getting his head around, but no one ever tries him anymore... And like was said, experience... Marlon didnt get his head around until he heard Eddie Jackson screaming at him to look back.

 

[JoshB]

Cyrus Jones is one of the main offenders. "Youth" shouldn't be his issue.

100% completely untrue.

 

[Justneedme81]

Nick Saban schools you on how to play pass coverage | Smart Football read up on this.
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Saban even touched on this few weeks ago...

 

[UAgrad93]

I am so over this issue!! We give up, what,106 yards on 11 of 31 passes with 2 picks!!!! Are you kidding me??

 

[BigCrimson]

100% completely untrue.

Our DB's not turning to look for the ball has been an issue for the past three years and they all have had issues with it. Go back and watch a lot of our games from the past several years. Cyrus is right there with the rest of our DB's. So the "100 % completely untrue" is simply an emotional reaction. I just watched him do it in the Georgia game that setup their FG.

 

[BigCrimson]

I am so over this issue!! We give up, what,106 yards on 11 of 31 passes with 2 picks!!!! Are you kidding me??

It's just an observation dude. Calm the hell down. Good lord. We played a great game, no one is complaining just asking a question. Don't be so sensitive.

 

[OldPlayer]

It's an issue of knowing when to turn. If you turn too soon, the receiver can beat you with a move or speed as your looking for the ball. Turn too late...well, you know. We were taught to watch the receive's eyes. When they get bigger, the ball is coming.

 

[UAgrad93]

It's just an observation dude. Calm the hell down. Good lord. We played a great game, no one is complaining just asking a question. Don't be so sensitive.

Look dude, this topic has been a "bitchfest" for people that fail to understand the DB position. @OldPlayer mentioned above, turn too soon and you lose contact with the WR and your top speed, turn too late and the flag gets thrown. The back shoulder fade is damn impossible to defend simply by turning your head. I played some DB in HS and then coached the position for 13 years at the HS level. You coach it up the best you can and train them to read the eyes, then react.

 

[BigCrimson]

Look dude, this topic has been a "bitchfest" for people that fail to understand the DB position. @OldPlayer mentioned above, turn too soon and you lose contact with the WR and your top speed, turn too late and the flag gets thrown. The back shoulder fade is damn impossible to defend simply by turning your head. I played some DB in HS and then coached the position for 13 years at the HS level. You coach it up the best you can and train them to read the eyes, then react.

Since you've had such experience with the position you also should know that there have been NFL defensive coaches that haven't been very fond of how Saban teaches them to defend. Now granted, I don't know exactly what aspect of it they don't like but I know the Jets in particular had to "re teach" Milliner when they drafted him. There have been other instances as well. I don't think there is one single way to teach how to defend the receiver or the ball. If that were the case then other teams would have the same problems we do at the secondary. But not all of them do and they don't have the problem with less talent.

 

[rueben]

Kick it high and short.

Run the Ball.

Take a knee of you catch it in the end-zone.

Did I miss anything?

 

[OldPlayer]

This topic offends me. We should ban passing in football.

 

[Tidestalker]

If you can't find the ball, it's hard to keep the offensive guy from catching it. Sometimes you get lucky and throw a hand up but more times than not if there's any contact, it's a PI call.

It's been an obvious issue the last few years. I have a hard time believing Saban tells the guys not to find the ball, but it also looks like it's not overly emphasized or we would see more guys doing it.

So many times our guys are in good position to turn and make a play but rarely does it happen. Would like to see more Marlon Humphrey type interceptions... Could be the difference in the season.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

We have a new DB coach that was a coach from Chicago Bears, I think the D coordinator. All of our guys have been in position for the most part. This is has been a tremendous improvement from last year. This position is one of the most experience prone position on the field. They also made some good blocked passes two across the field. They were looking at it. Let them develope.

 

[psychojoe]

I just finished watching the Georgia game again and outside of Humphrey turning his head in the second half for the int. None of our DB's when defending passes make any sort of attempt to turn their heads. Is this something that is coached? I've also noticed this same thing in other games. The DB never looks for the ball and the WR has a free path to get the ball. And many times we're flagged for pass interference for not playing the ball.

 

[BigCrimson]

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I relatively new to this board and haven't seen this topic posted.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I relatively new to this board and haven't seen this topic posted.

It's not a big deal, it's a valid question, AND a belated welcome to the board! There are topics that have have a way of resurfacing (our D against the spread, uniform changes, Saban to Texas, etc.) and sometimes prior combatants jump in as if it's the same thread. I enjoy getting the different coaching perspectives, pass coverage in particular because I didn't play DB. Backpedaling versus turning the hips to run, when to locate the ball, etc., interest me. You heard Gary during the game say it was perfect coverage, using the term "in phase" and having his hips into the receiver and turning.

RTR,

Tim

 

[rueben]

I relatively new to this board and haven't seen this topic posted.

My apologies, I did have you mistaken for someone else.

(But you should have really started with the high/ short debate) LOL