šŸˆ Archie Manning: Jalen Hurts performed 'very well' at Manning Passing Academy

Alabama quarterback Jalen Hurts took part in the Manning Passing Academy last week.

Last week wasn't the first time Archie Manning had seen Jalen Hurts throw since the end of last season.

The former NFL star quarterback and father of Peyton and Eli Manning watched Alabama's spring game in April and saw Hurts throw for 301 yards and two touchdowns against the Crimson Tide's first-team defense.

His primary takeaway? He thought Hurts "looked much improved from 2016" as a passer, a feeling he says was reinforced last week as he watched Alabama's sophomore quarterback compete at the Manning Passing Academy in Louisiana.

Hurts was one of 43 standout college quarterbacks in attendance for the Manning Passing Academy. They served as camp counselors while also taking part in a quarterback competition and multiple throwing sessions under the guidance of Peyton and Eli Manning.

"Jalen's a good-looking quarterback, and he threw the ball well," Archie Manning told AL.com. "We really enjoyed having Jalen. He's really a fine young man and a good guy, a really good guy. He worked great with our campers and mixed in so well with our staff. He was one of the favorites. And in all of the throwing sessions, he performed very well."

In particular, Hurts shined throwing the deep ball, especially during a throwing session on Friday.

During that workout, quarterbacks were split into groups and rotated between four stations. At one station, quarterbacks had to throw go-routes. At another, they had to throw deep post routes.

"Jalen threw the deep ball really well in that Friday workout," said Senior Bowl scouting coordinator Patrick Woo. "When you go back to last year, that was something Alabama didn't utilize all that much was the deep ball and obviously he missed a few in the playoff games, but I think that's his biggest strength is throwing the deep ball. He's big. He's obviously smart. And he definitely has a live arm. That's for sure. That ball really zips out of his hand."

The feedback was similar from Senior Bowl executive director and former NFL executive Phil Savage, who was also in attendance for that Friday workout.

"He is physically strong and has a powerful arm," Savage said of the 6-foot-2 Hurts, who is up to about 225 pounds. "I still think his deep ball is his best throw. He can rainbow it out there. I would think it was a very positive experience for him, being around the Mannings and all those other top-shelf QBs."

While Hurts was named the SEC Offensive Player of the Year as a freshman last season, improving in the passing game has been a top priority after he threw for 138 yards or less in five of Alabama's final seven games last year.

His showing at the Manning Passing Academy was further proof of his growth and arm talent.

Some of the top quarterbacks in the country were in attendance for the event, including reigning Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson, Wyoming's Josh Allen, USC's Sam Darnold, Washington's Jake Browning, Georgia's Jacob Eason, Arkansas' Austin Allen and Mississippi State's Nick Fitzgerald. Hurts, though, was "definitely in the top tier of guys" throwing-wise during the four-day event, according to Woo.

"I expect him to have a big year," Woo said.

During that workout, quarterbacks were split into groups and rotated between four stations. At one station, quarterbacks had to throw go-routes. At another, they had to throw deep post routes.

"Jalen threw the deep ball really well in that Friday workout," said Senior Bowl scouting coordinator Patrick Woo. "When you go back to last year, that was something Alabama didn't utilize all that much was the deep ball and obviously he missed a few in the playoff games, but I think that's his biggest strength is throwing the deep ball. He's big. He's obviously smart. And he definitely has a live arm. That's for sure. That ball really zips out of his hand."




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The feedback was similar from Senior Bowl executive director and former NFL executive Phil Savage, who was also in attendance for that Friday workout.

"He is physically strong and has a powerful arm," Savage said of the 6-foot-2 Hurts, who is up to about 225 pounds. "I still think his deep ball is his best throw. He can rainbow it out there. I would think it was a very positive experience for him, being around the Mannings and all those other top-shelf QBs."




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While Hurts was named the SEC Offensive Player of the Year as a freshman last season, improving in the passing game has been a top priority after he threw for 138 yards or less in five of Alabama's final seven games last year.

His showing at the Manning Passing Academy was further proof of his growth and arm talent.

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Some of the top quarterbacks in the country were in attendance for the event, including reigning Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson, Wyoming's Josh Allen, USC's Sam Darnold, Washington's Jake Browning, Georgia's Jacob Eason, Arkansas' Austin Allen and Mississippi State's Nick Fitzgerald. Hurts, though, was "definitely in the top tier of guys" throwing-wise during the four-day event, according to Woo.

"I expect him to have a big year," Woo said.
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My opinion on the Manning's camp has changed over the years. It sure seemed like a good idea when it started, but lost a lot of its value (in my eyes, at least) through the AJ and Johnny stories.

Seeing Archie's words of praise mean little. I pause when I see Savage talking about the deep ball being his best throw. I'm thinking Woo said roughly the same about all the participants.

Cynical, I guess?
 
What they are saying is what we were seeing in the spring game. Jalen in one of his interviews talked a lot about his footwork and how he's much more balanced than last season. Standing taller in the pocket and getting his feet pointed in the direction necessary are fundamentals that you can master through muscle memory. Now at 225 lbs and developing, I look for our QB to be a big problem to scheme for this season.
 
Man, that's a stacked quarterback at 6'2 - 225 with his weight room numbers. I'm glad he's getting better in the passing game as it means he is learning, willing to learn, and can show that on the field, but I still like the idea of him running the ball as well. He can break those simple defensive back arm tackles and run past linebackers. Add in a deep ball and we could see another amazing season from Hurts.
 
I don't know which position they'll feature this season. It's an eerie amount of combined talent sitting there.

I suspect, without Daboll declaring yet, that opponents will see Jalen looking more downfield with a much better check down game. But when we start to cultivate a more ball control offense, it's going to get a lot easier, pressure wise, for Jalen to pick and choose when he decides to run. That would be a sight to behold.
 
I still believe the Hurts we saw late in the year is not what he has to offer. I think he was totally spent. Exhausted. Just from what I've read about his work ethic and knowing he's no longer a freshman, I don't think that will happen this season. I think Hurts has a big year this season and Alabama wins the national championship.

Will I be disappointed if they don't? Sure. I'll still be a Bama fan as always and look forward to the following season. Enjoy the ride, fellas. It can't last forever, but it sure is nice right now.
 
I still believe the Hurts we saw late in the year is not what he has to offer. I think he was totally spent. Exhausted. Just from what I've read about his work ethic and knowing he's no longer a freshman, I don't think that will happen this season. I think Hurts has a big year this season and Alabama wins the national championship.

Will I be disappointed if they don't? Sure. I'll still be a Bama fan as always and look forward to the following season. Enjoy the ride, fellas. It can't last forever, but it sure is nice right now.

Great points.

Now that you mention it, he did look exhausted. More so mentally than physically. He still had juice in the tank. He could still run the ball pretty much at will. But his field vision amd decision making in the passing game seemed to diminish in the back half as the opposing defenses started learning his tendencies. Classic symptoms of mental fatigue.

Then again, he WAS still a couple months shy of his 18th birthday when he started in week 2, if I recall correctly. That's a tall task for a 17-18 year old kid.

Could he have performed better down the stretch? Sure. But he was no slouch, either. He IS the reigning league MVP, after all.
 
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I suspect, without Daboll declaring yet, that opponents will see Jalen looking more downfield with a much better check down game. But when we start to cultivate a more ball control offense, it's going to get a lot easier, pressure wise, for Jalen to pick and choose when he decides to run. That would be a sight to behold.
My .02Ā¢, plus others .02Ā¢ gives me this impression the ability to give you change back if required. It's along the lines of what you're thinking; at least I think it is.

I look for a better combination of what we know as a spread offense and what we know as a pro-style offense. One change I can see is more snaps under center than with Kiffin. Based on what we saw in the spring, Daboll isn't afraid to take shots downfield. While Lane moved the linebackers with east and west motion, I see Daboll pushing the group backwards if Jalen can hit some deep balls. Some of the more conservative people I know have used the word unstoppable, and that word "if," a lot lately.

I like the idea of the running game being used to stretch the defense and then just letting the running backs do what they do best; be running backs. There's the school of thought that stretching the defense left and right allows for blocking schemes that are more simple. Like you've alluded to, it also allows that drag type route from the H-backs and Tight Ends. Jalen does seem to throw better short passes when he's on the move so I can see all of this easily flowing together.

What really intrigues me is the wonder of knowing one week we might see a game plan based entirely on the receiving corps, then the next on the running backs. That, along with still having designed quarterback running plays out of the 'gun...makes me chuckle a bit.



 
My .02Ā¢, plus others .02Ā¢ gives me this impression the ability to give you change back if required. It's along the lines of what you're thinking; at least I think it is.

I look for a better combination of what we know as a spread offense and what we know as a pro-style offense. One change I can see is more snaps under center than with Kiffin. Based on what we saw in the spring, Daboll isn't afraid to take shots downfield. While Lane moved the linebackers with east and west motion, I see Daboll pushing the group backwards if Jalen can hit some deep balls. Some of the more conservative people I know have used the word unstoppable, and that word "if," a lot lately.

I like the idea of the running game being used to stretch the defense and then just letting the running backs do what they do best; be running backs. There's the school of thought that stretching the defense left and right allows for blocking schemes that are more simple. Like you've alluded to, it also allows that drag type route from the H-backs and Tight Ends. Jalen does seem to throw better short passes when he's on the move so I can see all of this easily flowing together.

What really intrigues me is the wonder of knowing one week we might see a game plan based entirely on the receiving corps, then the next on the running backs. That, along with still having designed quarterback running plays out of the 'gun...makes me chuckle a bit.

That's at least 2 pennies worth of facts for me. I believe Daboll is gonna be trying hard to figure out the perfect balance between power, speed, and space. Jalen under center makes a lot of sense, but there is no reason he couldn't work out of the pistol as well as the read option anytime they call for it. I can't think of another college team that has tried to bring that much offensive talent and diversity into a gameplan.
 
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Reier: There was a strong mix of SEC quarterbacks down there. Compared to maybe a year ago, how would you rate the guys returning behind center in the league?

Morris: I think it's an impressive group. The vet of the group is [Austin Allen] from Arkansas, who is coming off a big year. He can really throw it, tough, accurate, strong, not real big, but he can really throw it. [Nick Fitzgerald] at Mississippi State just fits in perfect with what they're doing, very big, athletic guy, strong. Shea Patterson at Ole Miss is as talented as anybody out there, a young guy going into his sophomore year. Same thing with [Jacob Eason] at Georgia. I felt like all those guys had moments where you thought, yeah, this guy can play. It's a young group besides Allen, but I think looking around the league, all these guys fit with what their teams are going to be trying to do.

 
My .02Ā¢, plus others .02Ā¢ gives me this impression the ability to give you change back if required. It's along the lines of what you're thinking; at least I think it is.

I look for a better combination of what we know as a spread offense and what we know as a pro-style offense. One change I can see is more snaps under center than with Kiffin. Based on what we saw in the spring, Daboll isn't afraid to take shots downfield. While Lane moved the linebackers with east and west motion, I see Daboll pushing the group backwards if Jalen can hit some deep balls. Some of the more conservative people I know have used the word unstoppable, and that word "if," a lot lately.

I like the idea of the running game being used to stretch the defense and then just letting the running backs do what they do best; be running backs. There's the school of thought that stretching the defense left and right allows for blocking schemes that are more simple. Like you've alluded to, it also allows that drag type route from the H-backs and Tight Ends. Jalen does seem to throw better short passes when he's on the move so I can see all of this easily flowing together.

What really intrigues me is the wonder of knowing one week we might see a game plan based entirely on the receiving corps, then the next on the running backs. That, along with still having designed quarterback running plays out of the 'gun...makes me chuckle a bit.



I wonder what type of a year O.J. would've had under a scheme like this, along with a consistently improving Jalen.

RTR,

Tim
 
Jalen under center makes a lot of sense, but there is no reason he couldn't work out of the pistol as well as the read option anytime they call for it.
My wish(es) haven't changed since last summer in that regard. I like well timed out, designed quarterback running plays--if used sparingly. Heck, I wouldn't have an issue if the Tide had a game or two where Jalen's legs were the story. I don't like the idea of it being an every week thing though--too much talent around him to use him that often.

We know they are going to use him that way. As I've always been, I'm skeptical when it comes to depth and the quarterback position even with Tua on the bench.

I can't think of another college team that has tried to bring that much offensive talent and diversity into a gameplan.

Urban's '08 Florida team, maybe? Moore, Rainey, Moody, Tebow, Hernandez, Harvin, Cooper...hell, they had Cam Newton but he was backing up Brantley that season (who had a decent season as a back-up, statistically.)

Bama's got better depth at RB than that UF team, but UF was returning more experience at WR than Bama if I recall this correctly.
 
My wish(es) haven't changed since last summer in that regard. I like well timed out, designed quarterback running plays--if used sparingly. Heck, I wouldn't have an issue if the Tide had a game or two where Jalen's legs were the story. I don't like the idea of it being an every week thing though--too much talent around him to use him that often.

We know they are going to use him that way. As I've always been, I'm skeptical when it comes to depth and the quarterback position even with Tua on the bench.



Urban's '08 Florida team, maybe? Moore, Rainey, Moody, Tebow, Hernandez, Harvin, Cooper...hell, they had Cam Newton but he was backing up Brantley that season (who had a decent season as a back-up, statistically.)

Bama's got better depth at RB than that UF team, but UF was returning more experience at WR than Bama if I recall this correctly.


Percy Harvin was electric, the Deuce Palmer on that team, the human mismatch. When Tebow came in his freshman season he was the short yardage and power game. The Gators could shift gears but a lot of that diversity came from a 2 QB system. It's going to be cool watching Bama morph between the pro-style and the RPO.
 
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