🏈 Apparently History Can Be Re-Written

[ghice]

Oklahoma Gets There "Wins" Back

 

[Guest]

I haven't even been able to read about this. I just can't do it. I have no idea how our situation with Langham was different than theirs, but it just puts more salt on our wounds. Not that OU's forfeits made any difference to us or changed our circumstances, but it did "feel" a little better to have it happen to someone else.

Now they get theirs back, and it just bugs me. Maybe one day none of it will bother me in the least. I'm not there yet. :?

 

[Guest]

I haven't even been able to read about this. I just can't do it. I have no idea how our situation with Langham was different than theirs, but it just puts more salt on our wounds. Not that OU's forfeits made any difference to us or changed our circumstances, but it did "feel" a little better to have it happen to someone else.

Now they get theirs back, and it just bugs me. Maybe one day none of it will bother me in the least. I'm not there yet. :?

Delta, you need to let this go. Put it in the back of your mind.

 

[Guest]

The definition of history from an anthropology standpoint:

History is not a record of past events. It is a fluid interpretation of that past that fits current needs.

When I first read that definition, I had a difficult time with it. With time, I understand it more and more.

 

[Guest]

Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. OU did exactly what they were supposed to do when they found out about what was going on. As much as I love Alabama, we did not. Stallings reported to Ingram (AD at the time) and Ingram told Stallings he'd handle it, and he did nothing. Alabama's penalties may have been more severe than called for, but we did deserve something.

 

[ghice]

The definition of history from an anthropology standpoint:

History is not a record of past events. It is a fluid interpretation of that past that fits current needs.

When I first read that definition, I had a difficult time with it. With time, I understand it more and more.

Just curious, couldn't that definition of history apply to the current perception of history, than of history itself?

 

[Rolling Tide]

Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. OU did exactly what they were supposed to do when they found out about what was going on. As much as I love Alabama, we did not. Stallings reported to Ingram (AD at the time) and Ingram told Stallings he'd handle it, and he did nothing. Alabama's penalties may have been more severe than called for, but we did deserve something.

It didnt help either when stallings kicked the ncaa investigator out of his office...

 

[Guest]

The definition of history from an anthropology standpoint:

History is not a record of past events. It is a fluid interpretation of that past that fits current needs.

When I first read that definition, I had a difficult time with it. With time, I understand it more and more.

Just curious, couldn't that definition of history apply to the current perception of history, than of history itself?

The entire basis of that definition is that History is fluid, not shaped by past events but needs of the present among the culture or ethnicity who is evaluating it. It seems a cynical view, but accurate in many instances.

 

[ghice]

The definition of history from an anthropology standpoint:

History is not a record of past events. It is a fluid interpretation of that past that fits current needs.

When I first read that definition, I had a difficult time with it. With time, I understand it more and more.

Just curious, couldn't that definition of history apply to the current perception of history, than of history itself?

The entire basis of that definition is that History is fluid, not shaped by past events but needs of the present among the culture or ethnicity who is evaluating it. It seems a cynical view, but accurate in many instances.

I see what your saying. History is the recorded happenings of the past. So if the perception of an event are either positive or negative we would perceive these events in the same perception unless we have multiple accounts of said event that reflect more than one kind of view.

Is this what you are saying?

 

[Guest]

The definition of history from an anthropology standpoint:

History is not a record of past events. It is a fluid interpretation of that past that fits current needs.

When I first read that definition, I had a difficult time with it. With time, I understand it more and more.

Just curious, couldn't that definition of history apply to the current perception of history, than of history itself?

The entire basis of that definition is that History is fluid, not shaped by past events but needs of the present among the culture or ethnicity who is evaluating it. It seems a cynical view, but accurate in many instances.

I see what your saying. History is the recorded happenings of the past. So if the perception of an event are either positive or negative we would perceive these events in the same perception unless we have multiple accounts of said event that reflect more than one kind of view.

Is this what you are saying?

To some degree, however it goes farther than that. Consider the Huron Indians. According to their history, they were oppressed and virtually destroyed by white colonists. Independent histories tell a different story...they acted as intermediaries between colonists and other tribes, and benefited greatly from it. The reason that the tribe is so insignificant today is that they were almost wiped out by attacks from other tribes.

The history of the Hurons is shaped by them to fit their particular needs. In some instances, the only actual history of an event is that which is kept by the group involved. In that instance, the entirety of the recorded narrative is fluid and history is purely interpretive.

History is laced with instances of this...

The history that kids in the UK are taught regarding the American Revolution is not the same thing taught in the USA.

The protestant reformation is taught differently in Catholic cultures than in Protestant.

...and so forth. The correct interpretation of historic events depends entirely on which group you belong to.