🏈 anyone notice zero LSU in 1st/2nd rounds

[planomateo]

LSU's first pick #76....and 82 people have been selected ahead of Colt McCoy.

LSU has owned the first few rounds of recent years, wonder if it means anything...

 

[rammerjammer]

This is a quick (blanket) statement, but IMO

Les is a heck of a recruiter, but horrible at developing talent. If you look at the players he has brought in, he certainly is not lacking as far as talent. I honestly think he is piss poor on developing it.

 

[planomateo]

no question about him bringing in talent. just something I noticed this year, along with USC and a few others missing from the 1st round.

 

[planomateo]

hows this for another view of LSU...http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/04/17/1152063/lsu-churns-out-nfl-players-but.html

so how much of this falls on Miles vs Saban....or just the work ethics of the players themselves?

LSU is known as one of the last decade’s most successful college programs, winning national championships in 2003 and 2007 and helping elevate hungry and talented players into college superstars. But according to some outside the LSU bubble, NFL teams have learned the hard way that, at least lately, a draft pick who played for the Tigers isn’t a sure thing.

“Word has been out there that the guys aren’t working real hard,” said Chris Landry, a former NFL scout who now works as a consultant for nearly a dozen teams. “It’s been talked among scouting circles for a while. It’s more: Buyer beware.

“It gives (LSU) a bad image. It gives it an attitude of just: ‘What the hell is going on over there?’ ”

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The signs were there. That’s what LSU insiders and observers said. Dorsey paid less attention to conditioning after his junior season. Bowe’s hands weren’t improving. Russell’s work habits were questionable from the start.

“JaMarcus was a bust waiting to happen,” said Landry, who lives in Louisiana. “A lot of people have misevaluated some of these LSU players.”

Landry said the problems started when those players emerged as NFL prospects, and their work habits slipped. He said LSU’s coaches failed to push those players, and as a result, they adopted poor approaches as acceptable.

“The program has slipped from a discipline and work-ethic standpoint,” Landry said. “They’re not nearly as demanding on them.”

LSU coach Les Miles did not respond to an interview request made to the school’s sports information department. It was Miles who took over after Nick Saban moved on in 2004, and on the surface, little seemed to change. The Tigers kept recruiting top athletes, kept winning big games and kept producing NFL prospects.

But as other dominant college teams became factories for NFL superstars — Miami, Southern California and Texas produced a combined 97 draft picks and 19 Pro Bowlers since 2003 — LSU was churning out players who looked the part, passed the combine tests and had futures that looked bright.

But something was different. Of LSU’s 21 players drafted in the first four rounds since ’03, only 12 have started the majority of their games. There are good players to have come out of LSU in the last decade. But none has yet become great.

“It’s disappointing,” one LSU insider said. “Somebody should have made a handful of Pro Bowls right now, and it hasn’t happened.”

The years passed. Again and again, NFL teams kept evaluating LSU players and seeing the one who might break the trend. They put in the time. Did the scouting. Made their grades. Marcus Spears was a can’t-miss. So was LaRon Landry. Dorsey, too. Bowe, Russell, Dorsey and Spears are among those who’ve been criticized for their conditioning habits. Others have been chided for work-ethic concerns. Their talent has spent years getting cold in the shadow of those worries.

“Everybody thought they were good players,” said NFL.com analyst Gil Brandt, a former Cowboys personnel director. “It doesn’t make sense. It just doesn’t make sense.”

 

[ExiledTidefan]

That's just more evidence, from respected NFL scouts and experts, that Les Miles just sucks. I had a long conversation with an LSU boy across the street recently and I flat out told him that they have more talent on that team, STILL, than we had last year and we won it all. He was neither in agreement or disagreement. I was mainly saying it to prove my point that Miles is an idiot. He did disagree with that, but I don't see how.

Stories like this just back it up even more.

 

[LBS]

Short of a significant philosophical approach like the one CNS claims he went through while at MichState (one that made him what he is today), Les' days are numbered.

All things being equal he can really recruit, but when word of an unfavorable opinion of this player's NFL potential trickles down to those elite players who know that they have a shot, Mile's ability to "close the deal" will weaken.

We all know that he can't coach himself to success with inferior players, and superior players must be created by the right coaching.

If Bama wins in Baton Rouge this year, Miles and LSU are in a spot. My LSU buddy is hoping that the Hat is gone and that Bo Pelinni will be brought back.

 

[XXL TideFan]

Miles is recruiting well because of what CNS built at LSU. What sort of recruiter was Miles at Ok State? You will see recruiting slipping under Miles a well, the reason being that the mystic is gone down on the bayou.

 

[AlabamaAubKiller]

Not only that but they just lost thier Center. latest report i saw says he's done. the hat ran him off.

LSU football: T-Bob Hebert arrested for DWI, sources confirm.....

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2010/05/lsu_football_t-bob_hebert_arre.html

and who the hell names thier kid "T-Bob". lol only in LOUSYanna. :rofl: