| FTBL Another defining statistic on Saban's time here RE: recruiting and 1st rounders.

[TerryP]

We've talked at length about how good Saban has been on the recruiting trail and it certainly has been evidenced by the talent we've seen Bama put in the league the last few years.

In an article I read the other day, one thing was pointed out I hadn't considered.

To put it further into perspective, what Nick Saban has done in the last four years with 11 first-round picks equaled the program’s output of the previous six coaches and 22 years combined. He already has the second most first-round selections in Alabama history, trailing just Paul W. “Bear” Bryant at 13 (Joe Namath was a first-round selection in both the NFL and AFL) -- although it should be noted that after years of growth the NFL currently has more first-round picks than ever.

Following next seasons draft, he'll likely have more 1st rounders in five years then Bryant was able to put in the league over a span of nearly a quarter of a century. Sure, times have changed in pro sports with more first round picks now than then. BUT STILL, five years compared to 25?

Remarkable, to the point of being insane.

The Crimson Tide’s first-round club
Year, Overall pick, Player, Team, Position

Coach Nick Saban, 2007-present
2012 3 Trent Richardson, Browns, RB
2012 7 Mark Barron, Buccaneers, DB
2012 17 Dre Kirkpatrick, Bengals, DB
2012 25 Dont'a Hightower, Patriots, LB
2011 3 Marcell Dareus, Bills, DT
2011 6 Julio Jones, Falcons, WR
2011 25 James Carpenter, Seahawks, T
2011 28 Mark Ingram, Saints, RB
2010 8 Rolando McLain, Raiders, LB
2010 20 Kareem Jackson, Texans, DB
2009 6 Andre Smith, Bengals, T


Coach Mike DuBose, 1997-2000
2000 3 Chris Samuels, Redskins, T
2000 19 Shaun Alexander, Seahawks, RB
1999 26 Fernando Bryant, Jaguars, DB
1997 20 Dwayne Rudd, Vikings, LB


Coach Gene Stallings, 1990-96
1994 9 Antonio Langham, Browns, DB
1993 5 John Copeland, Bengals, DE
1993 6 Eric Curry, Buccaneers, DE
1993 29 George Teague, Packers, DB
1990 4 Keith McCants, Buccaneers, LB



Coach Bill Curry
1989 S Bobby Humphrey, Broncos, RB
1989 4 Derrick Thomas, Chiefs, LB
1987 2 Cornelius Bennett, Colts, LB


Coach Ray Perkins
1986 4 Jon Hand, Colts, DE
1985 25 Emanuel King, Bengals, DE
1984 U Joey Jones, Falcons, WR
1983 16 Mike Pitts, Falcons, DE


Coach Paul W. “Bear” Bryant
1981 5 E.J. Junior, Cardinals, LB
1980 21 Don McNeal, Dolphins, DB
1979 6 Barry Krauss, Colts, LB
1979 14 Marty Lyons, Jets, DE
1978 18 Bob Cryder , Patriots, G
1978 23 Ozzie Newsome, Browns, TE
1976 6 Richard Todd, Jets, QB
1974 9 Wilbur Jackson, 49ers, RB
1973 4 John Hannah, Patriots, G
1968 20 Dennis Homan, Cowboys, WR
1967 26 Leslie Kelly , Saints, RB
1965 1 Joe Namath, Jets, QB
1965 12 Joe Namath, Cardinals, QB
1963 6 Lee Roy Jordan, Cowboys, LB


Coach Harold Drew, 1947-54
1953 8 Bobby Marlow, Giants, B
1951 9 Clarence “Butch” Avinger, Steelers , B
1948 1 Harry Gilmer, Redskins, QB
1948 4 Lowell Tew, Redskins, B
1948 5 Vaughn Mancha, Yanks, C


Coach Frank Thomas, 1931-46
1936 2 Riley Smith , Redskins, B

 

[TerryP]

Point to note: Three of the players credited to Saban came from Shula's recruiting classes.

All of the players drafted during DuBose's tenure were recruited by Stallings. DuBose and his staff didn't recruit a single first rounder.

 

[UAgrad93]

Terry, wouldn't Rudd actually fall under Stallings, since he was drafted in the Spring of 97? Stallings had him for the Fall of 96 and in the Outback Bowl. Rudd declared for the draft afterward. McCants would be in the same boat as well.

 

[TerryP]

Terry, wouldn't Rudd actually fall under Stallings, since he was drafted in the Spring of 97? Stallings had him for the Fall of 96 and in the Outback Bowl. Rudd declared for the draft afterward. McCants would be in the same boat as well.

It could be looked at both ways. DuBose was the HC at the time of Rudd's draft, but Rudd was definitely a part of Stallings system.

And yes, we could put Keith under Curry.

 

[Bo]

Some things I noticed on those lists that surprised me.

I had no idea that Joey Jones was a 1st round pick. He's one of my favorite players of all time, but I would have thought he was a little on the short side to be a 1st rounder.

Kenny Stabler wasn't a 1st rounder?

Wallace Wade didn't have a 1st rounder?

 

[RollTideRandy]

The Draft started in 1936 and Wallace Wade coached at Alabama from 1923-1930.

I'm surprised "Ears" didn't have a first rounder. :lol:

 

[TerryP]

Some things I noticed on those lists that surprised me.

I had no idea that Joey Jones was a 1st round pick. He's one of my favorite players of all time, but I would have thought he was a little on the short side to be a 1st rounder.

Kenny Stabler wasn't a 1st rounder?

Wallace Wade didn't have a 1st rounder?

Stabler almost fell to the third round. In fact, he was the second QB Oakland drafted that year. Their first round pick never took a snap at QB in the NFL.

 

[Bo]

Stabler almost fell to the third round. In fact, he was the second QB Oakland drafted that year. Their first round pick never took a snap at QB in the NFL.

This just shows how much I keep up with the NFL and the draft.

 

[TerryP]

This just shows how much I keep up with the NFL and the draft.

Your post made me look it up.

 

[UAgrad93]

Stabler was a pretty good baseball player coming out of the prep ranks wasn't he? Don't know if he played on the Capstone or not, but that could've hurt him draft wise.

 

[doemasters]

is that just for the NFL? I know Tommy told me that he went to the USFL because of them paying more than the NFL the first few years

 

[planomateo]

it for sure has 1 USFL player, Joey Jones.

 

[Bo]

Your post made me look it up.

And see, here I was thinking you were just smart like that.

Stabler was a pretty good baseball player coming out of the prep ranks wasn't he? Don't know if he played on the Capstone or not, but that could've hurt him draft wise.

I don't know if he played baseball at Bama or not, but it seems like I remember reading where he had offers to play pro baseball coming out of high school.

 

[TerryP]

And see, here I was thinking you were just smart like that.
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I won't forget this... :abnormal: so, in the future...

 

[TerryP]

There is little doubt as to how University of Alabama head football coach Nick Saban has become known as one of college football’s coaching elite -- he consistently recruits and develops top high school talent into top NFL talent.

This was no better evidenced than at the 2012 NFL Draft held last weekend. The Crimson Tide led the way by having five players selected in the first 35 picks. Three more would follow in the rounds after to bring the total to eight.
But this is not the first time that a Nick Saban led team has dominated the draft. While Saban was the head coach at Louisiana State University, he had 45 players (that he coached or signed) selected, with nine first-round draft picks and four of those being chosen in the top ten.
While at Alabama, Saban has had 24 players' names called during the draft (that he coached or signed), with eleven first-round draft picks and six of those coming in the top ten.
The “Process” that Saban has preached throughout his career has become part of Alabama and Southeastern Conference football lore in recent years, mostly because that “Process” has produced many of the top NFL draftees in the last decade.
Since Saban became the head coach at Toledo in 1990, he has had 98 players selected, with 25 in the first round, and 11 in the top ten that he has coached or signed.

The numbers do not lie. The “Process” is proven.
What’s scary to opposing fans is that he appears to be getting better with time. While at Alabama, almost half of the players drafted (11 out of 24), have been selected in the first round.
He has found a way to turn the long, difficult, bumpy road that is the path to NFL into a smooth, wide-open Interstate headed straight towards draft day.
When talking to a large group of high school campers, Saban once shared a quote from American author Jim Rohn that epitomizes the “Process” which reads, “We must all suffer from one of two pains: The pain of discipline or the pain of disappointment. The difference is discipline weighs ounces while disappointment weighs tons.”
The good news for Alabama fans is that Saban and the football program show no signs of slowing down with seemingly annual top-ranked recruiting classes assuring the influx of talent as high as it has ever been at the Capstone.

 

[Duder]

So what's the impressive part? Pfft

Best quote I've heard from an old football player:

"How are you not infuriated that you're not in the HOF?"

(looks down at the super bowl ring he's wearing that day) "These keep me warm at night."- Kenny Stabler

Seeing his name made me think of that