🏈 🏈 FALL CAMP 2019 🏈 Tide preps for season opener

[TerryP]

As odd as this comes across ... it looks like Jobe is the guy who has a corner position locked down when they are in dime and nickel. Being August and they're still shuffling I can't find a reason not to like Diggs or Surtain at STAR. We know they'll be looking at both.

I say that to say this.

I'm betting opposing offenses attack Jobe this season. Whether it's Surtain or Diggs on the other corner, I think they'll consider Jobe to be the weaker link.

 

[UAgrad93]

Inside to outside backer again...but of a position change. Jerrell was a SAM versus WILL as I recall. Courtney at JACK, Nico at WILL, and Dont'a at MIKE?

I wasn't sure what comparison @BamaBoyJosh was making about McMillon and Patrick, position or being a veteran in age rather than experience.

 

[TerryP]

@UAgrad93, I took it to mean one of the system, positional players in their respective roles. Undersung, but solid.

Based on what I've seen I believe a lot picture Josh in the light of Jerrell in 2010: inside, then outside, and then we didn't see him much. I see more of the 2011 Jerrell...able to play both and I don't see Josh just disappearing.

Damn...Jerrell had one hell of a game in the BCSNC. You can point to him as one of the main reasons their option attack stalled went backwards.

 

[Max]

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

I believe injuries are cyclic to a degree. UA was pretty fortunate for part of CNS tenure and injuries while they occurred didn't seem to come in bunches with multiples in certain groups. The last couple of years the opposite has been true with multiple guys going down either for games or for the year. I am more than ready to see the pendulum swing back the other way and see some first to last continuity especially in the LB and DB corps. Just an observation on something I am looking for.

 

[Bama News]

Alabama practice report: First-team DB not participating

Alabama practiced Tuesday afternoon, working outside on a sunny 91-degree day in Tuscaloosa.

www.al.com

Alabama practiced Tuesday afternoon, working outside on a sunny 91-degree day in Tuscaloosa.

Here are some notes from the media viewing period:

— First-team cornerback Josh Jobe was in a black non-contact jersey and was off to the side working on a stationary bike during the open portion of practice.

— Miller Forristall (foot) wasn’t with the rest of the tight end group. Defensive lineman LaBryan Ray (ankle) and backup cornerback Nigel Knott (undisclosed medical issue) weren’t practicing.

— With Forristall out, Major Tennison was again first in line for tight end drills. Cameron Latu was second. Walk-on Giles Amos was third. It looked like Tennison was off to the side when the other tight ends were running routes with the quarterbacks.

— Slade Bolden was second in line behind Henry Ruggs in one outside wide receiver line. Tyrell Shavers was second behind DeVonta Smith in the other outside receiver line. John Metchie and Xavier Williams were the third-team outside receivers. In the slot, it was Jerry Jeudy followed by Jaylen Waddle and Chadarius Townsend.

 

[mando]

Alabama practice report: First-team DB not participating

Alabama practiced Tuesday afternoon, working outside on a sunny 91-degree day in Tuscaloosa.

www.al.com

Alabama practiced Tuesday afternoon, working outside on a sunny 91-degree day in Tuscaloosa.

Here are some notes from the media viewing period:

— First-team cornerback Josh Jobe was in a black non-contact jersey and was off to the side working on a stationary bike during the open portion of practice.

— Miller Forristall (foot) wasn’t with the rest of the tight end group. Defensive lineman LaBryan Ray (ankle) and backup cornerback Nigel Knott (undisclosed medical issue) weren’t practicing.

— With Forristall out, Major Tennison was again first in line for tight end drills. Cameron Latu was second. Walk-on Giles Amos was third. It looked like Tennison was off to the side when the other tight ends were running routes with the quarterbacks.

— Slade Bolden was second in line behind Henry Ruggs in one outside wide receiver line. Tyrell Shavers was second behind DeVonta Smith in the other outside receiver line. John Metchie and Xavier Williams were the third-team outside receivers. In the slot, it was Jerry Jeudy followed by Jaylen Waddle and Chadarius Townsend.

Reading these reports and all can think of is good lord at the talent on this team.... If we get help on D-Line from the younger guys this team will be scary good. Yeah I know I am stating the obvious...

 

[Bama News]

Fall Camp Instant Analysis: Tuesday

Among the items we touched on during the latest edition of IA, for all the talk about Tua's weight loss, what about Taulia's offseason?

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[TerryP]

 

[TerryP]

If we get help on D-Line from the younger guys

With Ray on the mend (supposed to be back next week) Eboigbe has been getting the reps with the 1's. He's about there, from what I understand, which gives the defense five guys for those three positions. With Mathis able to back up Dale at nose and Davis at end, eyes should be focused on how well Wynn can come along.

Let's remember...last season there were three that were in on 75% of the snaps, one with roughly 25%; Ray. In 2017 Payne was in on over 80% of the snaps and the next three carried 55-60% of the load. Notice in both cases we're talking a four man rotation for three positions. In '16 we're looking at Allen and Tomlinson getting 80 and 75% of the snaps respectively. We saw Payne getting about 60% of the reps and Hand about 30%. Again, a four man rotation for three spots.

Right now we're watching five. If they can get that fifth to get 12-15 snaps per game we'll have more rotation along the line than we've seen in the last several years.

I realize they're only four practices in...but I can't help the fact that the reports tend to all be pretty positive.

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[JoshB]

A hungry Bama is a scary Bama. 2019 is gonna be scary...

 

[mando]

With Ray on the mend (supposed to be back next week) Eboigbe has been getting the reps with the 1's. He's about there, from what I understand, which gives the defense five guys for those three positions. With Mathis able to back up Dale at nose and Davis at end, eyes should be focused on how well Wynn can come along.

Let's remember...last season there were three that were in on 75% of the snaps, one with roughly 25%; Ray. In 2017 Payne was in on over 80% of the snaps and the next three carried 55-60% of the load. Notice in both cases we're talking a four man rotation for three positions. In '16 we're looking at Allen and Tomlinson getting 80 and 75% of the snaps respectively. We saw Payne getting about 60% of the reps and Hand about 30%. Again, a four man rotation for three spots.

Right now we're watching five. If they can get that fifth to get 12-15 snaps per game we'll have more rotation along the line than we've seen in the last several years.

I realize they're only four practices in...but I can't help the fact that the reports tend to all be pretty positive.

I know things have changed with open offenses but I still use the earlier Saban defenses as a benchmark. Have you run these numbers for those defenses (2011)? I want teams to basically give up trying to run period. Then you have them predictable. Then give me a very good pass rush and we have a dominating defense. Surely that is not to much to ask for lol....

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

With Ray on the mend (supposed to be back next week) Eboigbe has been getting the reps with the 1's. He's about there, from what I understand, which gives the defense five guys for those three positions. With Mathis able to back up Dale at nose and Davis at end, eyes should be focused on how well Wynn can come along.

Let's remember...last season there were three that were in on 75% of the snaps, one with roughly 25%; Ray. In 2017 Payne was in on over 80% of the snaps and the next three carried 55-60% of the load. Notice in both cases we're talking a four man rotation for three positions. In '16 we're looking at Allen and Tomlinson getting 80 and 75% of the snaps respectively. We saw Payne getting about 60% of the reps and Hand about 30%. Again, a four man rotation for three spots.

Right now we're watching five. If they can get that fifth to get 12-15 snaps per game we'll have more rotation along the line than we've seen in the last several years.

I realize they're only four practices in...but I can't help the fact that the reports tend to all be pretty positive.

DL in rotation or potentially in the mix
Davis
Ray
Dale
Mathis
Eboigbe

Wynn
Alfano
Barmore

 

[BamaFan334]

DL in rotation or potentially in the mix
Davis
Ray
Dale
Mathis
Eboigbe

Wynn
Alfano
Barmore

I think Alfano will be the surprise of the defense by the end of the year. Yes, he jolted up the rankings in the final month, so he's not a sleeper pick, but he is ready to make a difference.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Our defensive line talent is second to none. And most years, that's usually the case. It has been a very real difference in the last 2 Georgia games. The dawgs haven't been able to duplicate the speed and size of our guys. It certainly feels like at this point we didn't develop the depth we should have been working on last season. After a while it doesn't matter if all the starters are All-American they will eventually wear out. And we saw that late in the season.

Golding saying that he was going to get defensive players ready for more situational football, that's music to my ears.

 

[JoshB]

I know things have changed with open offenses but I still use the earlier Saban defenses as a benchmark. Have you run these numbers for those defenses (2011)? I want teams to basically give up trying to run period. Then you have them predictable. Then give me a very good pass rush and we have a dominating defense. Surely that is not to much to ask for lol....

What's crazy is if you put the 2011 defense (starters) right next to the 2019 starters it is VERy similar.




We've heard talk about some of the outside backers and defensive ends getting more "streamlined" in recent years but this group looks pretty much exactly the same as those early Saban defenses. I think the difference is just simply bigger guys are more athletic/faster now. I mean look at those DBs, three over 200 and the other two are a Hardee's Chicken Biscuit away from 200. And no one was coming even close to the size of Raekwon Davis when you talk about weight and height, let alone combining Lewis' Hulk ass in there.

 

[Tidestalker]

DL in rotation or potentially in the mix
Davis
Ray
Dale
Mathis
Eboigbe

Wynn
Alfano
Barmore

Looks good.

Important to learn from last year... We went into that title game relying on 3 dudes and I believe Buggs was not even healthy. Final result was no sacks, little pressure, and an exposed secondary because of it. It probably played a part in the second half rally vs Oklahoma as well.

I know Terry has pointed out that there has basically always been a limited rotation, but I'm hoping that's due to lack of trusted depth opposed to scheme. In 2019 it's just asking a whole lot for a couple of guys to carry that load all season and still have the juice in the Final 4... Especially when everyone's attack against Alabama is to spread and keep personnel on the field.

Was it 2015 when we had that ridiculous rotation?! I think Petway wasn't starting, but was a menace.

-Allen
-Reed
-Robinson
-Pettway
-Payne
----------------------
-Frazier
-Tomlinson
-Hand

That was the shit. Would be fantastic to see another rotation like that... RTR

 

[Tidestalker]

What's crazy is if you put the 2011 defense (starters) right next to the 2019 starters it is VERy similar.

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We've heard talk about some of the outside backers and defensive ends getting more "streamlined" in recent years but this group looks pretty much exactly the same as those early Saban defenses. I think the difference is just simply bigger guys are more athletic/faster now. I mean look at those DBs, three over 200 and the other two are a Hardee's Chicken Biscuit away from 200. And no one was coming even close to the size of Raekwon Davis when you talk about weight and height, let alone combining Lewis' Hulk ass in there.

Those defenses were massive back in the day.

I just get to thinking about last season and now this season... The way we score, shouldn't DL's who can impact the passing game be prioritized? Not saying run defense doesn't matter but pass rushing and being able to defend screens seems to have more importance.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Those defenses were massive back in the day.

I just get to thinking about last season and now this season... The way we score, shouldn't DL's who can impact the passing game be prioritized? Not saying run defense doesn't matter but pass rushing and being able to defend screens seems to have more importance.

This is pretty much the reason all of us are holding our breath waiting for what's going to be different. But for my 2 cents, there is still one basic in college football. You have to stop the run.

Even if we run 10 personnel out there this season, and we will, teams are going to have to prepare for our running game. I think even in the spread era, it's still the law of the jungle.