🏈 A Very Early College Football Top 25 for 2013

[planomateo]

Everyone in the SEC has two.

The season starts the same time, November has five Saturday's.

thanks, was curious why.

 

[Houndstoothpuller]

Didn't read the article, but I'm quite sure that Alabama will not be ranked number one.
This year, they touted the defensive rebuilding as the reason we weren't #1.
Next year, even with AJ returning (as possible a qb with 2 rings), they'll tout the offensive line losses as the reason we're not #1 again. Or any other reason they can come up with.
Do you guys not remember the early '12 talk all centered around USC, Oregon, FSU, West Virginia, anybody but Alabama.
We might be 2, but no higher, and honestly, it doesn't matter until the BSC comes out who is ranked where.
I'd guess if we lose to ND or win by less than 2 TD's in the NC game, ND will be ranked higher than us preseason '13.
Nationally, we're loathed, and it feels sooo good!!

 

[PhillyGirl]

Didn't read the article, but I'm quite sure that Alabama will not be ranked number one.
This year, they touted the defensive rebuilding as the reason we weren't #1.
Next year, even with AJ returning (as possible a qb with 2 rings), they'll tout the offensive line losses as the reason we're not #1 again. Or any other reason they can come up with.
Do you guys not remember the early '12 talk all centered around USC, Oregon, FSU, West Virginia, anybody but Alabama.
We might be 2, but no higher, and honestly, it doesn't matter until the BSC comes out who is ranked where.
I'd guess if we lose to ND or win by less than 2 TD's in the NC game, ND will be ranked higher than us preseason '13.
Nationally, we're loathed, and it feels sooo good!!

Since I have cover of the August 2012 SI on my wall (had AJ on it!), the top 10 as ranked by SI was:
1. Alabama
2. USC
3. LSU
4. Oregon
5. Oklahoma
6. Wisconsin
7. South Carolina
8. Michigan State
9. Georgia
10. West Virginia

 

[bcracker]

TerryP, the figures I posted came from scout.com. According to what I'm seeing, TAM is currently number one and Bama is nine. Am I getting outdated data?

 

[PhillyGirl]

TerryP, the figures I posted came from scout.com. According to what I'm seeing, TAM is currently number one and Bama is nine. Am I getting outdated data?

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2013

Last updated: today.

 

[PhillyGirl]

Fun facts: For 2013 class, Alabama is ranked 4th in QBs, 1st in RBs, 3rd in WR/TEs, 10th in OLs, and 9th in DLs, but not in top 15 for LBs or DBs.

 

[TerryP]

TerryP, the figures I posted came from scout.com. According to what I'm seeing, TAM is currently number one and Bama is nine. Am I getting outdated data?

I don't know.

Normally, they are about a month to a month and a half behind updating players. I believe I saw Rivals and 247 update their rankings in the last couple of weeks so chances are they are a little behind.

One thing about Scout that I've noticed over the years is you can always find players whose rankings are just, well, odd. They do tend to give regions higher rankings versus actual player evaluations. It's not necessarily a knock on Scout. All evaluators see players differently. That said, I did hear a report on them within the last year that right at 50 of their top 100 out of the state of Texas were busts—a lot never seeing the playing field.

It's important to note all four services rank players quite differently. ESPN puts a high premium on how much a certain player fits the team he's committed to when judging how to rank a certain class. Rivals doesn't use as many players in their rankings as Scout does, so the placement of one team over another doesn't mean the same thing.

I've felt—purely personal opinion—that it's a case of splitting hairs if you find one person bragging about a team ranked #1 versus a team being ranked #5. However, there is a difference in a team ranked in the high teens versus the top 10. It's almost like it mirrors the polls in a sense. It's easy to point to the top, and it's easy to say that is a second tier class.

Who knows how to judge the class at A&M right now. On paper, and by player rankings, they have a good class coming in. We'll see how they do in player development. It's the one question left to be answered with Sumlin. (And I'm not saying I'm doubting him.)

 

[TerryP]

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2013

Last updated: today.

It's updated daily with commits. It's not with rankings of each player. They only do that a few times per year.

All the recruiting services are technically updated daily.

But, you'll always see "new top 150 to be released..." teasers coming every few months.

 

[TerryP]

Just as an example on different rankings.

Falkins is ranked the 66th best WR in the nation by Scout. 247 has him as their 34th best receiver.

What's one guy see that another guy isn't?

Is one based purely on film and the other on personal observations?

It's so subjective...which is the point I'm trying to make. :biggrin_blue:

 

[PhillyGirl]

Ah, my apologies! Some of that stuff goes a little over my head, partially due to the very subjective nature of it all. Bleh.

I have yet to see any rankings that truly match up.

 

[0LDSCH00L]

Body Blow
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/archive/classrankings?classyear=2013

I have always said recruiting doesn't really matter until Signing Day...

On Signing Day Alabama will have a Top 5 class as they have for the last 4 or 5 years.

TAM is getting the new coach, successful season, Heisman bump recruiting year much like Auburn did in 2010.

 

[psychojoe]

aTm must have a bunch of back counters available to have this many commits.

 

[TerryP]

aTm must have a bunch of back counters available to have this many commits.

They had a small class last year; 19. Out of those they were able to back count four.

 

[Houndstoothpuller]

PhillyGirl, I usually only hear the ESPN guys talking about the AP rankings, not SI, so that's where the difference comes in for me, I guess.
I don't have AP preseaon on my wall, but I was only commenting on how Alabama incenses so many preseason prognosticators and the loathing they have for us only means one thing...we're beating up on people year in and year out!
Yay! :icon_elephant:
Thanks for the input as to SI, didn't realize that.
Like I said though, the BCS is the one that counts these days, and it doesn't come out til 6th (?) week, so....
there again, there will be behind the scenes discussions on how Alabama 'might not measure up' in 2013.
You know, it's really better for us to not be ranked #1 until it really matters.
The big head gets teams in big trouble...hoping that happens to ND in a few weeks.

 

[PhillyGirl]

PhillyGirl, I usually only hear the ESPN guys talking about the AP rankings, not SI, so that's where the difference comes in for me, I guess.
I don't have AP preseaon on my wall, but I was only commenting on how Alabama incenses so many preseason prognosticators and the loathing they have for us only means one thing...we're beating up on people year in and year out!
Yay! :icon_elephant:
Thanks for the input as to SI, didn't realize that.
Like I said though, the BCS is the one that counts these days, and it doesn't come out til 6th (?) week, so....
there again, there will be behind the scenes discussions on how Alabama 'might not measure up' in 2013.
You know, it's really better for us to not be ranked #1 until it really matters.
The big head gets teams in big trouble...hoping that happens to ND in a few weeks.

Oh, I know, I just thought that particular top 10 was interesting considering how the season played out for a lot of those teams hahah. I only had it on my wall because it was a cover with AJ on it, not because of the rankings or anything!