How many have we won with a Hawaiian?
One after Monday but it will be won with one on the bench.
How many have we won with a Hawaiian?
He's a Texan, boy. Git it right!WTF? Jalen's black?
I thought he was just the Alabama qb
This is tiring. Do all blacks have to pull for Alabama just because the QB is black while UGA has a white QB?
Sorry. I have a friend who was really upset earlier because she is constantly told that as a black person she is expected to support certain things no matter what because it would be "good for blacks". The media often pushes that same narrative. I guess the whole hting was kind of raw with me when I first read the article.
Well aware of those folks on both sides. I have family who would have complained about Bama having a black QB, but in much worse terms. I say would have but when we had them I heard them complain about it loudly. Honestly, thinking about it now, I would actually like Jalen to win it this year so I can look at them and ask them if they want to give it back since a black man won it.
I can't believe this is something to note.
That's pretty much been confirmed with the mindsets that coaches/GMs (for the NFL, etc.) had about black QBs. They couldnt play QB or center because they supposedly weren't smart enough. Condridge Holloway busted that myth at QB and Sylvester Croom busted the center myth at Alabama. Holloway has told the story about Bear Bryant being honest with him and saying that he would love to have him as his QB but didn't feel that the state was "ready" for a black QB. I think thats been one of the things that some people could argue against Bryant is that he was maybe too slow to pushing these issues but it really does come off as him wanting to protect the players themselves.
I think one of my favorite quotes from him was after he finally was able to integrate the team, a reporter asked him how many black players he had and he said "none." The reporter asked how many white players he had and he answered the same. "I just have players."
I remember stories about him intentionally scheduling the home/home with USC and their black players running all over our white boys being instrumental in integration.
It may have helped convince the fans but Bama already had it's first black player on the team, he just could not suit up for the USC game because he was a freshman and back then freshman could practice but not suit up on game day. Bryant had been trying to get Bama to allow him to sign black players for many years, by that point. He even tried, unsuccessfully, to get Texas A&M to integrate, before he even got to Bama.Clarence Davis (born in Birmingham, AL) graduated from the University of Southern California and was a 1969 All-American. Davis played at East Los Angeles College and Washington Preparatory High School in Los Angeles prior to that.
In 1970, he was part of USC's "all-black" backfield (the first one of its kind in Division I (NCAA) history), that included fullback Sam Cunningham and quarterback Jimmy Jones. Davis was one of the five USC African American starters (along with Sam Cunningham, Jimmy Jones, Charlie Weaver and Tody Smith), that played against an all-white University of Alabama football team, winning 42-21 in Birmingham on September 12, 1970. This game was historically significant, because it played a key role in convincing the University of Alabama and its fan base to accelerate the integration of its football team.
While walking through a used book store recently I noticed a book titled The Big Book of Black Quarterbacks. I should have picked it up, I guess, but it wasn't on my "want list" that afternoon. It only covered black QB's in the NFL--not really my sport as you know.
That brings me to this. It would be interesting to see how many black quarterbacks were playing collegiate football in the '60's and '70's. I suspect the bias they couldn't play that position existed.
How much does that have to do with the color of his skin? Today we're still dealing with coaches that want QB's to play defensive back.I remember a little of the Condredge Holloway recruitment to Alabama and it went that coach Bryant wanted him to play DB.
How much does that have to do with the color of his skin? Today we're still dealing with coaches that want QB's to play defensive back.
I grew up in Huntsville so the Condredge family story(s) are ones I'm familiar with: both father and son. (Did you know his dad was the first black employee at NASA working at Marshall SFC?)Did you watch Condredge play QB at Tennessee?
There's a few versions of that story tossed about. I've also heard Bryant wasn't a fan of him playing baseball and football.Besides, coach Bryant told Condredge that Alabama wasn't ready for a black QB.
I grew up in Huntsville so the Condredge family story(s) are ones I'm familiar with: both father and son. (Did you know his dad was the first black employee at NASA working at Marshall SFC?)
Did I watch him? In the fall of '72, his first season playing for the Vols, I was getting my ass spanked daily: in Kindergarten. So, no. Not really. But yes, I have in old films.
There's a few versions of that story tossed about. I've also heard Bryant wasn't a fan of him playing baseball and football.
It's about like the Cunningham stories. There's a lot of them out there. You're missing my thought here though. Even today we're seeing coaches look at QB's and see them as DB's. That's nothing new to football.