🏈 3 debunked recruiting myths that prove Signing Day is crucial

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3 debunked recruiting myths that prove Signing Day is crucial

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[94 Grad]

I would disagree to a degree as rankings are only a "part" of recruiting. Filling position needs and personality styles is as big if not bigger than any for pay "ranking" service team rankings.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

I would disagree to a degree as rankings are only a "part" of recruiting. Filling position needs and personality styles is as big if not bigger than any for pay "ranking" service team rankings.

This.

It's what separates CNS from the rest because of his own evaluation model that includes the entire makeup of the kid, and not just his athletic ability.

It's also why if CNS offers early a kid that hasn't gotten many offers up to that point, that more offers begin to come one for the kid. Other coaches know if CNS sees something, then they should offer too. They trust his model more than the recruiting services. They'll never admit to it, though. Lol.

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[bradenob]

This.

It's what separates CNS from the rest because of his own evaluation model that includes the entire makeup of the kid, and not just his athletic ability.

It's also why if CNS offers early a kid that hasn't gotten many offers up to that point, that more offers begin to come one for the kid. Other coaches know if CNS sees something, then they should offer too. They trust his model more than the recruiting services. They'll never admit to it, though. Lol.

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Are you guys nitpicking? I think the point of the article doesn't argue with your theories at all, BUT - I think it DOES show that it often DOES matter that Va Tech, for instance, has not recruited well for years. They haven't been able to stay competitive because of that. I think the article underscores what most of us believe - that recruiting IS huge for success of a program. We know some get more, with less (Mich St) and some do less with more (Texas, and funny, according to the discrepancy in the two 'ranking list'-awbarn!!!) but for the most part, those that get the best players perform the best! That IS why many EXPECT Saban to win - he's recruited the best assembled talent. If he didn't win, it would show that he could recruit, but couldn't coach, or develop, players. Thanks heavens he does all THREE well, and that's why we are spoiled fans and repeated national champions!

Roll Tide!!

 

[bradenob]

And another thing -

Would love to have Gary, and know that it's NOT going to happen. Still, since his mother (who I know has his best interest at heart, but gets on my NERVES!!!) thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread, let's remember how the top FIVE in the classes from 2006 to 2012 have done (as compiled by 247Sports composite rankings):

2006: 1) Andre Smith [AL] - All Am, NFL 2) Percy Harvin [FL] - All Am, NFL 3) Vidal Hazelton [USC] - nothing 4) Sergio Kindle [UT] - All Am, NFL roster for 2 years 5) Myron Rolle - All ACC, 6th round draft pick {11 of the top 50 still on an NFL roster}

2007: 1) Joe McKnight [USC] All-Pac 10 2) Jimmy Clausen [ND] - 2nd team All AM, NFL 3) Eric Berry [ucheat] All Am, All Pro 4) Marvin Austin [UNC] - All ACC, NFL 5) Ryan Mallet [ARK] - 2nd Team All SEC, NFL {10 out of the top 50 still on an NFL roster}

2008) 1) Da' Quan Bowers [Clem] - All Am, NFL 2) Terrelle Pryor [OSU] - All Big 10 Hon Mention X 2, NFL 3) Julio Jones [AL] - All Am, All Pro 4) Darrell Scott [USF] - DNP 5) Will Hill [FL] - Freshman All SEC, NFL {11 out of top 50 still on NFL rosters}

2009 1) Matt Barkley [USC] - All Pac 10, NFL 2) Bryce Brown [ucheat] - not much, NFL 3) Russell Sheppard [LSU] - 3 yr player, NFL 4) Manti Te'o [ND] - All Am, NFL 5) Jacobbi McDaniel [FSU] - 4 year player {14 out of top 50 still on NFL rosters}

2010 1) Ronald Powell [FL] - All Sec, NFL 2) Seantrel Henderson [MIA] - All ACC, NFL 3) Robert Woods [USC] - 3 yr starter, NFL 4) Dominique Easley [UF] - 3 yr player, NFL 5) Jackson Jeffcoat [UT] - All Am, NFL {16 out of top 50 still on NFL roster}

2011 1) Jadeveon Clowney [USCe] - All Am, NFL 2) Cyrus Kouandjio [AL] - All Am, NFL 3) La 'El Collins [LSU] - 2nd tm All Am, NFL 4) Karlos Williams [FSU] - 2nd tm All ACC, NFL 5) Anthony Johnson [LSU] - All SEC, NFL (did not make a team this last season) {16 out of the top 50 still on NFL roster}

2012 - Dorial Green-Beckham [MO] - not much, NFL 2) Mario Edwards [FSU] - All ACC 3) DJ Humphries [UF] Freshman All SEC, NFL 4) Shaq Thompson [UW] - All Am, NFL 5) Noah Spence [OSU] - Ohio Valley Conf Co player of the year, to enter the NFL drft {12 of the top 50 are already on NFL rosters}

So, over the last few years, the 'overall' composite ranking reveals that the so-called 'scouts' ARE getting better.... once again showing that, while there WILL be busts along the way, those five star rankings probably DO mean a lot, as do the final team rankings....

 

[TerryP]

Filling position needs and personality styles is as big if not bigger than any for pay "ranking" service team rankings.

About two years ago, maybe three years now, I did some research on how the different sites/services rank recruiting classes. ESPN is the outlier here because part of their system is judging how well a team filled their needs.

There's good and bad in that just like with any of the services. In this case, it's subjective with the ESPN evaluators making judgments on what a team needs. In some cases I suppose that isn't too difficult. A team loses three linemen, they need three, right? On the other hand, a quick glance at the roster and one would assume Bama doesn't have a great need for WR's ... but they certainly WANT a few more.

There's one really good point Mandel brings up, again. There's little to no difference in a class ranked #1 and a class ranked #5.