🏈 VOTE: Most Prestigious College Football Program

[Bamaman37]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/rank?versionId=1&listId=222

 

[rammajamma]

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1. 1.Alabama
2. 2.Notre Dame
3. 3.Penn State
4. 4.Michigan
5. 5.Oklahoma
6. 6.Florida State
7. 7.Georgia
8. 8.Arkansas
9. 9.Texas
10. 10.Nebraska
11. 11.Florida
12. 12.USC
13. 13.Tennessee
14. 14.Texas A&M
15. 15.UCLA
16. 16.Washington
17. 17.Ohio State
18. 18.Clemson
19. 19.Colorado
20. 20.Arizona State
21. 21.BYU
22. 22.Miami
23. 23.LSU
24. 24.Georgia Tech
25. 25.Iowa
26. 26.Michigan State
27. 27.Ole Miss
28. 28.Pittsburgh
29. 29.Syracuse
30. 30.Auburn

 

[planomateo]

they actually had an interesting week long series on it based on some rules they set.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

 

[Guest]

they actually had an interesting week long series on it based on some rules they set.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

Yeah I was about to say didn't they just get done with this?

Nice to see us in the top 10!!

 

[ghice]

they actually had an interesting week long series on it based on some rules they set.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

Unfortunately they were wrong as we weren't in the top 5 :evil:

 

[BigAl]

# .Alabama
# 2.Notre Dame
# 3.Texas
# 4.Oklahoma
# 5.USC
# 6.Ohio State
# 7.Michigan
# 8.Penn State
# 9.Nebraska
# 10.Georgia
# 11.Florida State
# 12.Michigan State
# 13.Miami
# 14.LSU
# 15.Iowa
# 16.Georgia Tech
# 17.UCLA
# 18.Arkansas
# 19.Arizona State
# 20.Ole Miss
# 21.Clemson
# 22.Florida
# 23.Colorado
# 24.Tennessee
# 25.Pittsburgh
# 26.BYU
# 27.Syracuse
# 28.Texas A&M
# 29.Washington
# 30.Cow College

 

[Swamptick]

How did Arkansas end up in this contast? Weird.

I also noticed Syracuse was in it. WHAT??

 

[Guest]

I laugh.

It is as thought they started out with the question "What kind of piece could we do that would anger as much of College Football as possible?"

This is what they came up with.

 

[Guest]

My Top 20 -

1. ) Alabama
2. ) Notre Dame
3. ) USC
4. ) Nebraska
5. ) Oklahoma
6. ) Miami
7. ) Michigan
8. ) Ohio State
9. ) Texas
10. ) Penn State
11. ) Tennessee
12. ) Florida State
13. ) LSU
14. ) Georgia
15. ) Brigham Young
16. ) Pittsburgh
17. ) Washington
18. ) Florida
19. ) Texas A&M
20. ) Auburn

 

[Delmonico]

Prestige Rankings

Here is a interesting poll that uses a scoring system to rank the NCAA teams for all time. Alabama came in at No. 6.

Here is the top five:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

Nos. 6 - 10 Bama at No. 6.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849028

Nos. 11 - 15
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3846725

Nos. 16 - 20
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3846173

The rest of the pack. Auburn at No. 21
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3842161

Scoring System if you care to understand.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3836130

 

[JacobGibson05]

6. Alabama Crimson Tide
Total points: 1,534
Positives: Alabama has won seven national titles, tying with Oklahoma and USC for the second-most by any program. Three of those five titles came in a five-year span in the '60s. The Tide had another big run with three in a seven-year span in the '70s. It's no wonder that Alabama was the second-best program in the '70s, trailing USC in the decade by a single point. Bama has the most bowl appearances (52) and bowl wins (28) of any program.
Negatives: Alabama was not its usual dominant self in the '80s, finishing 15th in that decade. But the thing holding the Tide back in the overall standings is the BCS era (since 1998), in which they rank 28th. They have had three losing seasons this decade, the most in a decade since the 1950s (1954-57). Bama hasn't won a major bowl game since 1992 and hasn't had a first-round draft pick since 2000.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 12th | 1968: 3rd | 1978: 4th | 1988: 2nd | 1998: 3rd
Did you know? Despite all its tradition, Alabama has never had a Heisman winner.



Ok they list us at 7 NC and only 28 bowl wins...

 

[rammajamma]

How did Arkansas end up in this contast? Weird.

I also noticed Syracuse was in it. WHAT??

This is from wikipedia

Broyles era (1958—1976)

Frank Broyles was hired as head football coach in 1957 and served in that position for 19 years.

Broyles' team was awarded the 1964 National Championship by the Football Writers Association of America and the Helms Athletic Foundation.[4][5] The FWAA and HAF awarded their National Championships to Arkansas, who was the only team to go undefeated through the bowl games that year, as Alabama lost in the Orange Bowl to Texas, a team Arkansas had defeated. At the time, the AP and UPI awarded their national titles before the bowl games, and gave their trophies to the University of Alabama.[6]
Razorbacks logo used from 1964-2000

The next season, 1965, the Razorbacks were 10-0 in the regular season, and were once again the Southwest Conference Champions. That sent the Razorbacks back to the Cotton Bowl on New Year's Day, this time to play against LSU. Because of the controversy in determining the national champions in 1964, the AP polls would wait until after the bowl games to announce its champion. With top-ranked Michigan State losing in the Rose Bowl, the Razorbacks had a chance to become national champions, but were defeated 14–7.[1]

In 1969, the Razorbacks had another chance to claim the national title, when #2 Arkansas played the #1 Texas Longhorns, coached by Darrell Royal, at Razorback Stadium in Fayetteville, Arkansas. The game, known as "The Big Shootout" or the Game of the Century, is perhaps the most notable football game in Razorbacks history. Arkansas led 14-0 at halftime, but Texas stormed back and took a 15-14 lead on a two-point conversion play, after a questionable passing play was called late in the game by then coach Frank Broyles, which was intercepted by Texas. President Richard Nixon was in attendance, and proclaimed Texas the national champions, even though they had a bowl game to play, and Penn State was also undefeated. Sadly, Arkansas would lose to Ole Miss in the Sugar Bowl, 22–27, and Texas would beat Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl for the national title.[7]

Broyles would win his last Southwest Conference championship (7 in all) in 1975. Arkansas defeated the #2 ranked Texas A&M Aggies, 31-6, at War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock. That victory forced A&M to share the conference championship with Arkansas, and sent the Hogs to the Cotton Bowl on January 1st, 1976. Arkansas would fall behind Georgia early on in that game, but came roaring back to beat the Bulldogs easily, 31-10. Arkansas finished ranked #7 in the AP and #6 in the UPI that season.

[edit] Holtz era (1977—1983)

After Broyles left coaching and became athletic director at Arkansas, he hired Lou Holtz to take his former position. Holtz served as head football coach from 1977 through the 1983 season.

In his first year at Arkansas, Holtz led the Razorbacks to a 10-1 record and was invited to play in the Orange Bowl against number two Oklahoma. With top ranked Texas losing in the Cotton Bowl, the Sooners had a chance to become national champions but the Razorbacks ended the Sooners' hope with a 31–6 victory.[1]

In 1979, the Razorbacks were 10-2 and had a chance at a national championship but Alabama defeated the Razorbacks 24–9 in the Sugar Bowl.[1]

And then why Syracuse

Early History

Syracuse played its first intercollegiate football game in 1889, and achieved its first success in the 1890s and 1900s. With the construction of "state-of-the-art" Archbold Stadium in 1907, Syracuse rose to national prominence under Hall of Fame coach Frank "Buck" O'Neill. The 1915 squad garnered a Rose Bowl invitation that the school declined, having already played on the West Coast that season.

The 1920s saw continued success with teams featuring star end Vic Hanson, the only individual who is a member of both the Basketball Hall of Fame and the College Football Hall of Fame, and who later coached the team. Through this period, Colgate University was the school's biggest rival.

The late 1930s and 1940s saw a decline in fortunes that began to reverse when Ben Schwartzwalder took over as coach in 1949. Syracuse made its first bowl appearance in the 1953 Orange Bowl, followed by appearances in the 1957 Cotton Bowl and the 1959 Orange Bowl. The 1957 Cotton Bowl team featured Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown. During this era, Penn State emerged as Syracuse's principal rival, replacing Colgate University which had not kept up to compete at a national level.

In 1959, Syracuse earned its first National Championship following an undefeated season and Cotton Bowl victory over Texas. The team featured sophomore running back Ernie Davis, who went on to become the first African-American to win the Heisman Trophy in 1961. Davis was slated to play for the Cleveland Browns in the same backfield as Jim Brown, but died of leukemia before being able to play professionally.

Syracuse remained competitive through the 1960s with a series of All American running backs, including Floyd Little and Larry Csonka. The program began a gradual decline, though, in the 1970s. The construction of the Carrier Dome in 1980 began to turn the program around, as did the success of future NFL stars Joe Morris and Art Monk.

[edit] MacPherson/Pasqualoni Era

The program returned suddenly to national prominence in 1987 under coach Dick MacPherson with an undefeated 11-0 regular season record. The team featured Maxwell Award winning quarterback Don McPherson and fullback Daryl Johnston. The team missed an opportunity to play for the NCAA Division I-A national football championship, because both the University of Oklahoma and the University of Miami also finished undefeated that year and finished higher in the polls. Instead, the team faced Southeastern Conference champion Auburn University in the Sugar Bowl. The game ended in a tie when Auburn kicked a late field goal rather than trying for a game winning touchdown.

Over the next 14 seasons (1988-2001), the program enjoyed tremendous success under coach MacPherson and his successor Paul Pasqualoni, appearing in 11 bowl games (including 3 major bowls) and winning 9. The team also captured or shared 4 Big East football championships during this period. Prominent players of the period included Bill Scharr, Donovan McNabb, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney, Keith Bulluck, Rob Moore, Donovin Darius, Qadry Ismail, Kevin Johnson, Rob Konrad, Tebucky Jones and Marvin Graves. Rivalries shifted in the early 1990s as Penn State ended its series with Syracuse and joined the Big Ten. Syracuse, meanwhile, joined the newly formed Big East football conference with traditional rivals University of Pittsburgh, and West Virginia University and national programs Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech.

Several notable players played for Syracuse in this era include Donovan McNabb, Marvin Harrison, and Dwight Freeney

I remember Syracuse as having some good teams and I remember the "Tie Dye" bowl game where Pat Dye chose to tie instead of going for the win. I really don't know what has went so terribly wrong there over the past few years.

 

[EuroTide]

its espn after all :roll:

 

[planomateo]

6. Alabama Crimson Tide
Total points: 1,534
Positives: Alabama has won seven national titles, tying with Oklahoma and USC for the second-most by any program. Three of those five titles came in a five-year span in the '60s. The Tide had another big run with three in a seven-year span in the '70s. It's no wonder that Alabama was the second-best program in the '70s, trailing USC in the decade by a single point. Bama has the most bowl appearances (52) and bowl wins (28) of any program.
Negatives: Alabama was not its usual dominant self in the '80s, finishing 15th in that decade. But the thing holding the Tide back in the overall standings is the BCS era (since 1998), in which they rank 28th. They have had three losing seasons this decade, the most in a decade since the 1950s (1954-57). Bama hasn't won a major bowl game since 1992 and hasn't had a first-round draft pick since 2000.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 12th | 1968: 3rd | 1978: 4th | 1988: 2nd | 1998: 3rd
Did you know? Despite all its tradition, Alabama has never had a Heisman winner.



Ok they list us at 7 NC and only 28 bowl wins...

might help if you read how they calculated things, they only counted 1936 and the '41 NC didn't count due to the rules of this http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3836130

I was hoping for top 5, but the last 18 years haven't helped us in "this" ranking, thats for certain.

 

[Swamptick]

They did not award us our first NC against Washington in the Rose Bowl yet they give Syracuse early history love.

Typical ESPN.

Oh well. I don't think Alabama is first. My top 5 would be like this:

1. Michigan
2. USC
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
5. Nebraska