| FTBL Utah preview when?

[jdpas29]

not to rush you guys, but i really enjoy reading your previews throughout the year. i know so little about these Utes that i can't wait to read your preview of them.

at this point i'm too lazy to look it up myself.

 

[TerryP]

not to rush you guys, but i really enjoy reading your previews throughout the year. i know so little about these Utes that i can't wait to read your preview of them.

at this point i'm too lazy to look it up myself.

We're getting together our content for December right now...it'll include a few looks at the Utes, a look at our departing class and how they've done versus how the recruiting experts said they'd do, things this team is missing right now...plus a few other goodies here and there.

I'd say, we'll break into the Utes sometime in the next few days and REALLY get into the breakdown at the beginning of next week.

 

[jdpas29]

thanks, Terry. my morning coffee awaits...

 

[cjaytch]

We're getting together our content for December right now...it'll include a few looks at the Utes, a look at our departing class and how they've done versus how the recruiting experts said they'd do, things this team is missing right now...plus a few other goodies here and there.

I'd say, we'll break into the Utes sometime in the next few days and REALLY get into the breakdown at the beginning of next week.

Hey Terry,
Thanks for all the great info. I was thinking about our senior/junior class vs UF senior/junior class. Do you know how many 4 and 5 star recruits Bama has in the senior/junior class? Im pretty sure UF has a bunch of them. I know JPW wasnt highly recruited and Rashad was a walkon. Andre was a 5 star i know. Seems like the Bama upperclassmen certainly overachieved in relation to the recruiting rank.

Thanks

 

[TerryP]

We're getting together our content for December right now...it'll include a few looks at the Utes, a look at our departing class and how they've done versus how the recruiting experts said they'd do, things this team is missing right now...plus a few other goodies here and there.

I'd say, we'll break into the Utes sometime in the next few days and REALLY get into the breakdown at the beginning of next week.

Hey Terry,
Thanks for all the great info. I was thinking about our senior/junior class vs UF senior/junior class. Do you know how many 4 and 5 star recruits Bama has in the senior/junior class? Im pretty sure UF has a bunch of them. I know JPW wasnt highly recruited and Rashad was a walkon. Andre was a 5 star i know. Seems like the Bama upperclassmen certainly overachieved in relation to the recruiting rank.

Thanks

I don't know the exact number of stars with each class...I can look at the roster and pretty much tell you how the kid was rated when he was coming out of HS.

Just as one example, with a Jr. but a kid no one thought highly of that has really come out?

Drew Davis. He was a Rivals 2* coming out of high school...I don't recall if he had any offers from SEC schools much less schools like UNA, etc. Here's a kid that was in the 2004 class, took a grey-shirt, then a red-shirt, and this past season as a Jr. has done a hell of a job considering the problems we've had at RT.

 

[cjaytch]

I don't know the exact number of stars with each class...I can look at the roster and pretty much tell you how the kid was rated when he was coming out of HS.

Just as one example, with a Jr. but a kid no one thought highly of that has really come out?

Drew Davis. He was a Rivals 2* coming out of high school...I don't recall if he had any offers from SEC schools much less schools like UNA, etc. Here's a kid that was in the 2004 class, took a grey-shirt, then a red-shirt, and this past season as a Jr. has done a hell of a job considering the problems we've had at RT.

From what I remember, Shula's classes were consistently in the 15-20 ranking. If i remember correctly, Andre was his only 5 star recruit. Compared to Florida who had top 5 recruiting classes every year during that time frame. If im correct in my memory, that means that not only has this group overacheived, but Saban and his staff have done a SPECTACULAR job.

 

[Guest]

From Scout's 2005 class for us:

Erik Anders-1 star

Bobby Greenwood - 3 stars

Roy Upchurch - 3 stars

Brandon Deaderick - 4 stars

Lionel Mitchell - 3 stars

Ali Aharief - 3 stars

Glen Coffee - 3 stars

Marlon Davis - 3 stars

Prince Hall - 3 stars

Mike Johnson - 2 stars

Corey Reamer - 2 stars

Baron Huber - 2 stars

Evan Cardwell - 2 stars

Brandon Fanney - 4 stars

Lorenzo Washington - 3 stars

There were also a good many on that list who didn't work out or gave up the game due to injuries. As the old coach said, "It's not the ones you don't sign that get you, it's the ones that you do sign that don't work out.

 

[TerryP]

I don't know the exact number of stars with each class...I can look at the roster and pretty much tell you how the kid was rated when he was coming out of HS.

Just as one example, with a Jr. but a kid no one thought highly of that has really come out?

Drew Davis. He was a Rivals 2* coming out of high school...I don't recall if he had any offers from SEC schools much less schools like UNA, etc. Here's a kid that was in the 2004 class, took a grey-shirt, then a red-shirt, and this past season as a Jr. has done a hell of a job considering the problems we've had at RT.

From what I remember, Shula's classes were consistently in the 15-20 ranking. If i remember correctly, Andre was his only 5 star recruit. Compared to Florida who had top 5 recruiting classes every year during that time frame. If im correct in my memory, that means that not only has this group overacheived, but Saban and his staff have done a SPECTACULAR job.

Andre' was the only 5* to make it on campus...Mike Ford was a 5* as well.

 

[Guest]

I don't know the exact number of stars with each class...I can look at the roster and pretty much tell you how the kid was rated when he was coming out of HS.

Just as one example, with a Jr. but a kid no one thought highly of that has really come out?

Drew Davis. He was a Rivals 2* coming out of high school...I don't recall if he had any offers from SEC schools much less schools like UNA, etc. Here's a kid that was in the 2004 class, took a grey-shirt, then a red-shirt, and this past season as a Jr. has done a hell of a job considering the problems we've had at RT.

From what I remember, Shula's classes were consistently in the 15-20 ranking. If i remember correctly, Andre was his only 5 star recruit. Compared to Florida who had top 5 recruiting classes every year during that time frame. If im correct in my memory, that means that not only has this group overacheived, but Saban and his staff have done a SPECTACULAR job.

Conversely, according to Scout, Utah's recruiting ranking over the previous 5 classes has been:

2004: 68
2005: 71
2006: 60
2007: 66
2008: 65

The Urban Meyer spread is a very effective offense that can be difficult to scheme against. As I stated in another thread - we just played it, employed with much more talent and a Heisman QB. We will not be going into this game having to prepare for something we have not seen all year. Utah will be the 6th or 7th spread team we have faced, and their offense is very similar to what Florida runs - minus the future NFL first rounders.

Utah does a good job making chicken salad with what they have, but they play a PB&J schedule.

 

[Electric_Ute_666]

I think recruiting rankings can be highly misleading. See Tennesee, Notre Dame, UCLA, Nebrasksa, to name a few.

I think at the college level X's and O's are as important as Jimmy's and Joe's.

 

[bamafan4ever]

I think recruiting rankings can be highly misleading. See Tennesee, Notre Dame, UCLA, Nebrasksa, to name a few.

I think at the college level X's and O's are as important as Jimmy's and Joe's.

You are sounding like our local Aubrun fans now. :wink: Don't get me wrong but I used to say the same thing when Shula was reeling in mid-level guys and a rare blue-chipper ever so often but the fact is, recruiting rankings are a pretty darn good barometer I would say 65% of the time. Sure, you are going to have your players like DeMeaco Ryans that had low stars assigned to him and now he is a beast in the NFL and was great on that '05 BAMA defense. It's more likely however that a guy like Julio Jones and Andre Smith will make an impact in a large way and both did as true Freshmen.

Not taking anyway from your Utes because I know they are no pushover and are well coached but I'll take all the 5 stars you can muster, any time, anywhere.

 

[Electric_Ute_666]

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have half of your guys...raw talent is raw talent. I do think that recruit ratings are overblown many times, however.