⚾ 🥎 🥎 Should this be an out? It is, but that doesn't make it sit right with me.

[TerryP]

It would seem to me the best call would be ground rule double.

 

[BamaFan334]

Why a ground rule double? Her body never left the field of play, it moved with her. No different than a catcher going over a rail or fielder going into the stands for a foul ball.

 

[TerryP]

Her body never left the field of play, it moved with her.

She's literally standing on the fence out of the field of play by two plus feet...left foot closer to three feet out of play.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

The real travesty is that two major college teams are playing on a field with a fence that couldn't keep a toddler out of the kitchen.

 

[BamaFan334]

She's literally standing on the fence out of the field of play by two plus feet...left foot closer to three feet out of play. View attachment 20439

The fenced moved. She in no way jumped over it or left the field of play. The fence gave and her momentum kept going as well.

 

[BAMAneck]

I don’t believe it should be an out but I also believe that there should be no college ball played with a silt fence . Next they’ll be throwing their gloves in the air in hopes of knocking the ball down and catching it barehanded.

 

[UAgrad93]

Pitiful!! D1 softball played on that excuse!!! Agree with @TerryP on “ground rule double” at worst.

 

[TerryP]

The fenced moved. She in no way jumped over it or left the field of play. The fence gave and her momentum kept going as well.

The fence moved and she's standing on the fence. It's literally impossible for her to be in the field of play because she's standing on the barrier that designates the field of play.

 

[TerryP]

According to how I'm reading this paragraph it doesn't look like that's a legal catch.

A player may stand on a fallen portable fence and make a legal catch. However, in NFHS rules, the catch is only legal if the collapsible fence is not completely horizontal. In NCAA and USSSA, the catch should not be credited if the fielder is standing on the fence as it is lying on the ground beyond the original plane of the fence when the fielder caught the ball. ASA allows a legal catch by a defensive player standing on a collapsible, portable fence as long as the fielder has not stepped outside the playing area — the other side of the fence.

Dead or Live? - Referee.com

Imagine that you’re working the plate in a two-umpire system. There’s a runner on second with one out. The batter hits a towering fly ball toward the out-of-play boundary line near right field. The right fielder is at full speed by the time she crosses into foul territory. She overruns the ball...

www.referee.com

 

[PurlJam]

It should be an out ....an out of the ballpark. A standard ballpark has a solid wall...if that were the case here, she would have bounced off the wall, got up and dusted herself off and watched the girl that hit it trot the bases for a HR.

 

[BamaFan334]

The fence moved and she's standing on the fence. It's literally impossible for her to be in the field of play because she's standing on the barrier that designates the field of play.

Well don't have a makeshift fence if you don't want instances like this. She did not pick up and move the fence, it moved with her body during a play, it's an out. As @PurlJam stated, if if had been solid this wouldn't be a discussion.

 

[Rsedge72]

If the player starts in the field of play, it should be an out no matter where the catch is made.

 

[TerryP]

If the player starts in the field of play, it should be an out no matter where the catch is made.

There's the key. She was out of the field of play when she made the catch. I'd agree if she leapt up, fell back into the fence and the last point of contact her feet made were within the playing field, in front of the plane marking the outfield fence. Here both of her feet made contact with the ground outside of the designated playing field.

Based on that site cited I don't think it's a legitimate catch.

 

[TerryP]

Well don't have a makeshift fence if you don't want instances like this. She did not pick up and move the fence, it moved with her body during a play, it's an out. As @PurlJam stated, if if had been solid this wouldn't be a discussion.

As cited above, by rule that does not appear to be a catch.

 

[SoCalPatrick]

Well don't have a makeshift fence if you don't want instances like this. She did not pick up and move the fence, it moved with her body during a play, it's an out. As @PurlJam stated, if if had been solid this wouldn't be a discussion.

First it was "she's in the playing field." Now it's "she didn't pick up and move the fence."

Just take the L.

 

[SoCalPatrick]

Were they playing on a baseball field? If so I'd guess they did so for attendance purposes?

 

[BamaFan334]

First it was "she's in the playing field." Now it's "she didn't pick up and move the fence."

Just take the L.

The point was her body never left the playing field. Meaning she did not jump over the fence to make the play. The fence moved with her, so that's not changing anything other than further making a point. No different than guys that ran through walls in the 80's and 90's.

 

[BamaFan334]

As cited above, by rule that does not appear to be a catch.

What was the call in the game?

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I'd imagine with a set up like that, it was covered in the ground rules that are discussed before each game. But I'd think the fence is an extension of the field, even when its a shitty temporary fence. Assuming that's the case, since the catch was initially made in play, and momentum carried her out of play (like @Rsedge72 mentioned)... in my opinion, it's an out.