šŸˆ OT: IF you're Louisville, do you give Petrino another chance? Mods on Louisville sites are suggesti

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Morbid curiosity, or perhaps being a fan of reading through meltdowns, led me to look over the Scout.com's Louisville forum just to see what the fan reaction would be to the Strong to Texas story.

I honestly didn't know what to expect. I honestly didn't expect to see the following. As many teams has Petrino has screwed over in the last decade I can't understand why there would be so many clamoring to have him back.

[h=4]One Word- Bobby Petrino our next coach Yes or No[/h]
[h=4]**The Official Bring Bobby Petrino Back to Louisville Thread**[/h]
One name I've seen linked to their opening is Chad Morris, current offensive coordinator at Clemson. If that were to come to pass it makes me wonder how much of an impact it would have on that program.
 
I will see if I can find the link but CBS ran an article on it today. There are quite a few who left somewhere and came back, including one SEC folks might not remember but will know the person.

EDIT: Found it quicker than I thought I would.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...hat-happens-when-you-hire-your-old-head-coach

[h=2]Bill Snyder (Kansas State)[/h]First tenure (1989-2005): Snyder pulled off one of the great reclamation projects in college football history, taking one of the worst programs in the sport and leading it to 136 wins and 11 bowl appearances in 17 years. Snyder retired after the 2005 season, after which the university renamed its facility Bill Snyder Family Football Stadium.
Second tenure (2009-present): After Ron Prince went 17-20 in three years and was subsequently fired, Snyder was coaxed back to shepherd the program at the age of 69. Snyder just completed the fifth season of his second stint at K-State, and is 42-22 (.656) with four bowl appearances since returning to the sideline.
Right move? Without a doubt. Snyder had the Wildcats back in a bowl in his second season, back in the Top 10 in his third, and in 2012 had K-State at 10-0 and on track for a national title game appearance before a November loss to Baylor. Now 74, there is little evidence that Snyder is slowing down.


[h=2]Mike Riley (Oregon State)[/h]First tenure (1997-98): Riley went just 3-8 and 5-6 in his first, two-season stint in Corvallis, but the five wins were the most for the program in 27 years. The San Diego Chargers noticed, hiring Riley as head coach in 1999. He went just 14-34 in three NFL seasons but is now largely viewed as collateral damage in the Ryan Leaf fiasco.
Second tenure (2003-present): After Dennis Erickson defected to become coach of the 49ers following a successful four-year tenure, Riley returned to Corvallis at the age of 49 to finish what he'd started. Riley led the Beavers to five bowl appearances in the first six seasons of his second tenure, and is a solid 80-59 (.576) in 11 seasons overall.

Right move? Yes. Some fans are frustrated by OSU's inability to reach a Rose Bowl or compete with hated Oregon on a consistent basis, but anyone with proper perspective on the history of the Beavers program would have to be satisfied with a consistent ability to be competitive. At 60, it doesn't appear Riley is going anywhere.
[h=2]John Robinson (USC)[/h]First tenure (1976-82): Robinson was extremely successful over his first seven years at USC, going 67-14-2 including five Pac-8/Pac-10 titles, three Rose Bowl wins and a national championship in 1978. Robinson also coached Heisman winners Marcus Allen and Charles White. After initially leaving coaching to serve as a university vice president at USC, Robinson was lured to the NFL Los Angeles Rams, where he coached from 1983 to 1991 and became the winningest coach in franchise history.
Second tenure (1993-97): Robinson seemed to pick up basically where he led off at SC, winning 25 games over his first three seasons including a Rose Bowl victory in year three. But the Trojans missed the bowl season in 1996 and 1997, and athletic director Mike Garrett fired Robinson when he refused to resign. He would later resurface as the coach at UNLV.
Right move? Was Robinson the perfect man for the job when he returned to USC at age 57? Probably not, but he was a better coach than the man that followed him, Paul Hackett (19-18 from 1998 to 2000). USC knows disastrous coaching tenures (Hackett, Lane Kiffin), and the second Robinson era was no disaster.
[h=2]Johnny Majors (Pittsburgh)[/h]First tenure (1973-76): Majors was 33-13-1 in his first stint with the Panthers, including a 12-0 season and a national title in the final season of that run. Tony Dorsett won the Heisman Trophy under Majors in '76. Majors was hired away by Tennessee and coached the Vols from 1977-92, winning 116 games in Knoxville.
Second tenure (1993-96): After Majors was nudged out at Tennessee in favor of his assistant Phil Fulmer (Majors, who missed part of the '92 season following heart surgery, has always viewed this as a successful coup attempt on the part of Fulmer), the 57-year old Majors was hired to succeed Paul Hackett. Majors failed to recapture the magic, going just 12-32 in four years before retiring after the 1996 season. Majors served in an advisory role at Pitt until 2007.
Right move? It would appear not. The once-storied Panthers program had slipped in a way that Majors was not prepared to reverse, and it would take the energy of Walt Harris (five straight bowl appearances from 2000 to 2004) to get the program back to respectability.
[h=2]Bill Walsh (Stanford)[/h]First tenure (1977-78): Walsh was 17-7 during a brief two-year stint at Stanford, winning a couple of bowl games and parlaying that success into the 49ers head coaching job that made him an all-time legend of the sport.
Second tenure (1992-94): Three years after resigning from the 49ers, Walsh left his job in the NBC broadcast booth to take over the Cardinal at the age of 60, succeeding Dennis Green (who had departed to coach the Vikings). Walsh experienced success in year one, leading Stanford to a 10-3 record and a win over Penn State in the Blockbuster Bowl. But after winning just seven games in the subsequent two years, Walsh resigned and was succeeded by Tyrone Willingham.
Right move? While it's hard to say anything negative about Bill Walsh, looking back it was probably not the best idea to hire a 60-year-old head coach who professed not to have much enthusiasm for recruiting. Give Walsh some credit for helping build the teams that made bowl appearances in 1995 and 1996 under Willingham.
 
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If I'm Louisville and I want to win, which I'm sure they do, I would hire him. Will he win an MNC? Doubt it. Would he have them competing and possibly making the play off? I think so. He knows the area and recruit well enough to win, and probably do pretty well in the weaker AAC.

I know there is the baggage of his off the field shenanigans, but he was been to the top and seen that it ain't what it's cracked up to be. Similar situation of Saban, Spurrier, Butch Davis. While I'm sure he wishes he was still at a bigger program, I think Louisville would be big enough to where he will not be as antsy to jump ship and go somewhere to scratch the coaching itch at a bigger program. I'm not saying he won't ditch them for a job at a powerhouse, but I think it would take a powerhouse gig to pull him away at this point in his career.
 
I actually don't understand all that continued hate for Bobby Petrino. Did he do wrong in the past? Yes. Did he, as you have said, screw over many teams in the past. Yes, he did. However, everybody deserves another chance.

Petrino has been a model coach since his indiscretion at Arkansas. Say what you will about his past history, but he is a good coach. I think it's been enough years, and he's done the time. He deserves another chance.
 
bama alum said:
I was talking about this with a former Bama player the other day. We both thought he would wind up serving his penitence a little while longer.
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After I posted this, I walked out the door, and it hit me that I typed this...this way. I apologize. I didn't mean for this to come off like I have connections like this. If I name dropped, I wonder if anyone would recognize his name. I just meant that I talked to someone who has a deep passion for Bama football and all things related like I do, that's all.

That said, when I see him tomorrow, I am going to tell him that this rumor train is picking up speed.
 
Old Timer from TX said:
I actually don't understand all that continued hate for Bobby Petrino. Did he do wrong in the past? Yes. Did he, as you have said, screw over many teams in the past. Yes, he did. However, everybody deserves another chance.
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You answered your own question genius. You can only screw over teams and players enough times before ppl dont trust you ever. How would any player trust a guy that would do what he did to the Falcons players?
 
bama alum said:
After I posted this, I walked out the door, and it hit me that I typed this...this way. I apologize. I didn't mean for this to come off like I have connections like this. If I name dropped, I wonder if anyone would recognize his name. I just meant that I talked to someone who has a deep passion for Bama football and all things related like I do, that's all.

That said, when I see him tomorrow, I am going to tell him that this rumor train is picking up speed.
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Bring him on here and get him to post. :td:
 
Old Timer from TX said:
I actually don't understand all that continued hate for Bobby Petrino. Did he do wrong in the past? Yes. Did he, as you have said, screw over many teams in the past. Yes, he did. However, everybody deserves another chance.

Petrino has been a model coach since his indiscretion at Arkansas. Say what you will about his past history, but he is a good coach. I think it's been enough years, and he's done the time. He deserves another chance.
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There is no doubt Petrino is a good play-caller and coordinator for an offense.

Football, as well all know, consist of three things on the field; offense, defense, and special teams. When has anyone seen a defense from one of his teams? If you're good at one, mediocre on a second, and don't give a damn about the third, a good coach you aren't.

As to his "indiscretion" (as you've chosen to describe putting his employer in line for a major lawsuit) that's at Arkansas. Notice the question was posed as "If you're Louisville, do you give Petrino another chance?" I was hoping Arkansas and Atlanta could be set aside and people just consider what happened with the Cardinal program.
 
As mentioned in another thread, Petrino didn't screw over Louisville like he did the Falcons, and his personal failings occurred while at the helm at Arkansas. That being said, if the attempted coup to oust Tuberville had succeeded after Lowder send H-Navid H-Nousel to woo Petrino, he would have been one and done there, too.

He will keep the offense revved up and benefit for a year or so from Strong's defensive work there. At only 800M a year, he's relatively cheap. If they don't pay the coordinators, though, they could sink back quickly.

RTR,

Tim
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Bobby Petrino, who left Falcons after 13 games, has been at WKU for 12. Reportedly made $850K at WKU; would owe $1.2M per buyout clause.</p>&mdash; Matt Porter (@mattyports) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyports/statuses/420989585733459971">January 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Agreed. I think he does have the mercenary mentality and he (obviously) has some personal failings but the guy can coach and Louisville could do a LOT worse. As good as Louisville has been lately, I still wouldn't consider it a marquis program, so getting a high end coach is a good move. The risk/reward for Louisville makes this a good move imo.
 

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