🏈 Ohio State linebacker K'Vaughan Pope quits team during Akron game

I get it. Everyone wants to play, but I hope and do believe that I've raised my girl to not have a "Im taking my ball and going home" mentality. Also, like I've said many times before. If you are an athlete, make the grades and graduate, then you should have many doors opened for you.
 
They dismissed him.

This is a tough one to look at. He was clearly wrong quiting mid-game on his teammates and then cussing the university in a tweet. So he was wrong there.

Looking at what happened between Smart and Gilbert at Georgia, you have to wonder if something along those lines went down. One promised this and it never transpired, now the other side feels like they've wasted their time and eligibility.

I've been saying it for years. The more freedoms and expectations you give these players, the more and more you'll see this. Most of these guys are entitled and have been enabled for years, the NCAA is bending to every little ordeal, and these guys can make money now. This is no different than what we are seeing in the NFL. They have ruined college football, and it's right there for us to see and acknowledge. I know kids used to quit back when Bear was coaching, nothing new. Airing out grievances in public, threatening folks, and just causing trouble on social media is all new. It's unfortunate all the way around that it has come to instances like this.
 
BamaFan334 said:
They dismissed him.

This is a tough one to look at. He was clearly wrong quiting mid-game on his teammates and then cussing the university in a tweet. So he was wrong there.

Looking at what happened between Smart and Gilbert at Georgia, you have to wonder if something along those lines went down. One promised this and it never transpired, now the other side feels like they've wasted their time and eligibility.

I've been saying it for years. The more freedoms and expectations you give these players, the more and more you'll see this. Most of these guys are entitled and have been enabled for years, the NCAA is bending to every little ordeal, and these guys can make money now. This is no different than what we are seeing in the NFL. They have ruined college football, and it's right there for us to see and acknowledge. I know kids used to quit back when Bear was coaching, nothing new. Airing out grievances in public, threatening folks, and just causing trouble on social media is all new. It's unfortunate all the way around that it has come to instances like this.
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Rant begin: Social Media... It's so new to humans. We don't have any history in terms of how to use it in a healthy fashion. You mentioned kids quitting back in the day, but this media spotlight is crazy and we as humans are not mentally and emotionally prepared for it all.

And IMO it's not about the kids, never has been... Always about the parents and adults. It's the parents and adults that either raised these kids and/or trained them to have unrealistic expectations. And IMO - It has a lot to do with social media, and OUR generation's inability to use & digest it properly... Kids are supposed to be inexperienced, kinda dumb & emotional. Adults aren't, and these kids have been watching them on social media since they were old enough to pick up a phone! We are talking about a phenomenon that has never been experienced or prepared for.

Now boys... Please get off my lawn! 😂
 
Tidestalker said:
Rant begin: Social Media... It's so new to humans. We don't have any history in terms of how to use it in a healthy fashion. You mentioned kids quitting back in the day, but this media spotlight is crazy and we as humans are not mentally and emotionally prepared for it all.

And IMO it's not about the kids, never has been... Always about the parents and adults. It's the parents and adults that either raised these kids and/or trained them to have unrealistic expectations. And IMO - It has a lot to do with social media, and OUR generation's inability to use & digest it properly... Kids are supposed to be inexperienced, kinda dumb & emotional. Adults aren't, and these kids have been watching them on social media since they were old enough to pick up a phone! We are talking about a phenomenon that has never been experienced or prepared for.

Now boys... Please get off my lawn! 😂
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Well I agree with a lot of that. It all starts at home. I loom directly at Jalen Hurts and Mac Jones compared to a guy like this and can pretty much say "I bet they weren't raised on the same principles", and that can likely be proven by how they've all three handled diversity in their lives.

My question to you is, when do these guys start being considered adults? How old till we stop hand feeding them and treating them like adults? People that age are off at war, becoming millionaires, solving inefficiencies in the world. Then you have these premadonnas like this. All that being said, they have turned college football into such big business you have grown ups acting like children and sacrificing whomever for a piece of the pie. Do we expect a guy like this to learn how to manage millions of dollars one day if he makes the NFL?

It's all a mess. Immaturity and the threat of social exile kills so much in our society that it has me believing the inmates are running the jail. It's really sad.
 
Tidestalker said:
Rant begin: Social Media... It's so new to humans. We don't have any history in terms of how to use it in a healthy fashion. You mentioned kids quitting back in the day, but this media spotlight is crazy and we as humans are not mentally and emotionally prepared for it all
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Social media existed when these kids were being born. I have a hard time saying "it's so new to humans" when we've been in a social media stage since the mid-90's: literally going on a quarter of a century.
 
TerryP said:
Social media existed when these kids were being born. I have a hard time saying "it's so new to humans" when we've been in a social media stage since the mid-90's: literally going on a quarter of a century.
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Online or not, the allure of wanting to fit in and be noticed has always existed. Twentieth century magazines (fashion, homes, gossip sheets, celebrity publications) all tugged at that tendency, and let us know that we needed to be skinnier and have better clothes, cars, homes, boats, etc. - or we needed to act the way our celebrity heroes did.

Comparison is the thief of joy.
 
TerryP said:
Social media existed when these kids were being born. I have a hard time saying "it's so new to humans" when we've been in a social media stage since the mid-90's: literally going on a quarter of a century.
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30 years? That's a blip on the radar of humanity.

You couldn't even have a facebook account in the early 2000's without a university Email account. And you certainly didn't have it on your phone.

The big picture is how the last 20 years has influenced and effected the parents. Because those parents are raising the children that are modeling the adults. Ask a Vietnam vet how much he was on his cell phone or checking twitter as a kid.... Big difference....you know it.

So yeah, it's new to Humans. So new that you can't find any historical reference on how the most popular forms of social media has impacted someone on a 30 year scale, because it doesn't exist.
 
Tidestalker said:
30 years? That's a blip on the radar of humanity.

You couldn't even have a facebook account in the early 2000's without a university Email account. And you certainly didn't have it on your phone.

The big picture is how the last 20 years has influenced and effected the parents. Because those parents are raising the children that are modeling the adults. Ask a Vietnam vet how much he was on his cell phone or checking twitter as a kid.... Big difference....you know it.

So yeah, it's new to Humans. So new that you can't find any historical reference on how the most popular forms of social media has impacted someone on a 30 year scale, because it doesn't exist.
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Photographs, railroads, telegraph, the repeating rifle, mass produced encyclopedias, radio, automobiles, silent movies, aircraft, antibiotics, talkies, phones, television, the integrated circuit, Dreamland, interstates, satellites, PCs, cell phones, laptops, tablets...the scale of human invention, and its impact on society, is not dwarfed by social media.

Social communication was once the province of newspapers and magazines, then they ceded a portion of that dominance to TV, and now the internet. As late as 1985, over 60 million newspapers were produced in the U.S. each day, and that's with the impact of People Magazine and the other rags, plus all of the Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous TV shows, etc.

The immediacy and on-demand aspects are different, but the base need is the same. There is nothing new under the sun.
 

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