🏈 NCAA football 2011: Taunting could nullify touchdowns under new rules

[BAMANEWSBOT]

College football could have a different look next fall. Teams will have the option of shaving 10 seconds off the clock for penalties called in the final minute of each half. They will contend with a more liberal definition of intentional grounding, and they could see points taken off the scoreboard for taunting penalties.

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[Hoos4Tide]

You know, I'm all for sportsmanship, and I feel like I can passionately argue either side of the new helmet to helmet contact rules in the NFL, but I just can not agree with this new taunting rule... Let the boys play!

 

[TerryP]

You know, I'm all for sportsmanship, and I feel like I can passionately argue either side of the new helmet to helmet contact rules in the NFL, but I just can not agree with this new taunting rule... Let the boys play!

I almost hit "post" on my reply...

But,

 

[shipley00]

So... with the taunting rule, we're concerned about players feelings getting hurt, but we'll let teams (an often one player on a team) rack up personal fouls (unnecessary roughness, roughing the QB, late hits) game after game, repeatedly, without any recourse? Good job!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

 

[RollTideinGA]

One bad thing is it will be determined by a ref. I'm sure one guy may consider a gesture taunting while another doesn't. This is gonna be fun!!!!!

 

[Hoos4Tide]

One bad thing is it will be determined by a ref. I'm sure one guy may consider a gesture taunting while another doesn't. This is gonna be fun!!!!!

Totally agree... Can't wait for that moment... and honestly, that's why it would be better IMO to just say "please don't taunt" and only throw the flag for things that are just blatantly obvious.

 

[psychojoe]

I hate rules like this that are open to interpretation. Think back to the 1992 NC game. Fairly early in the game we drive the ball down the field, inside their five. Derric Lassic plunges into the end zone, thinks he has scored, and does nothing more than spin the ball. he is ruled down at the one, flagged for celebrating, and we are set back to the 16. Under this new rule, if he had scored it would have been wiped out. I'd rather go back to no penalty for celebrating at all than eliminate all expressions of excitement at having scored.

 

[Hoos4Tide]

I hate rules like this that are open to interpretation. Think back to the 1992 NC game. Fairly early in the game we drive the ball down the field, inside their five. Derric Lassic plunges into the end zone, thinks he has scored, and does nothing more than spin the ball. he is ruled down at the one, flagged for celebrating, and we are set back to the 16. Under this new rule, if he had scored it would have been wiped out. I'd rather go back to no penalty for celebrating at all than eliminate all expressions of excitement at having scored.

And it's situations like that that, though they are hard to deal with as a rules committee, are obviously just never thought of, never discussed. Anything can happen, and you know there will be another Jim Joyce b/c of junk rules like this.

 

[4th-and-1]

think of what a different game the 2008 lsu game would have been after JPW's cell phone call.. (even though tebow and a whole list of players did the same thing and didn't get flagged)

 

[shipley00]

think of what a different game the 2008 lsu game would have been after JPW's cell phone call.. (even though tebow and a whole list of players did the same thing and didn't get flagged)

"nullify touchdowns if a player is called for taunting before he crosses the goal line. "

I could be reading this wrong, but if you celebrate after you cross the goal line, you just get a 15 yarder. If you showboat before crossing the goal line is where the damage is done. The JPW play = 15 yard penatly, touchdown stays.

 

[UAgrad93]

George Teague's int against Miami is an example that would take 6 off the board. He started high sdtepping about the 10. Penalty would be from the 10 and wipe off the points. Regardless, Miami would've still had the ASS whipped!!!

 

[BamaDelta]

"nullify touchdowns if a player is called for taunting before he crosses the goal line. "

I could be reading this wrong, but if you celebrate after you cross the goal line, you just get a 15 yarder. If you showboat before crossing the goal line is where the damage is done. The JPW play = 15 yard penatly, touchdown stays.

Thanks for clarifying. So Marcell Dareus's int and subsequent throwing the ball in the end zone in the BCSCG would have stood under the current rules? Just a 15-yarder as it was that night?

How 'bout Norwood's flip into the end zone vs. Penn State? The flip started in the field of play if I remember correctly, so would the ball have come out to the 1 or 2 (where the flip started)? I can see this rule causing big issues.

 

[RollinInPcola]

"nullify touchdowns if a player is called for taunting before he crosses the goal line. "

I could be reading this wrong, but if you celebrate after you cross the goal line, you just get a 15 yarder. If you showboat before crossing the goal line is where the damage is done. The JPW play = 15 yard penatly, touchdown stays.

You are correct.

 

[shipley00]

Thanks for clarifying. So Marcell Dareus's int and subsequent throwing the ball in the end zone in the BCSCG would have stood under the current rules? Just a 15-yarder as it was that night?

How 'bout Norwood's flip into the end zone vs. Penn State? The flip started in the field of play if I remember correctly, so would the ball have come out to the 1 or 2 (where the flip started)? I can see this rule causing big issues.

I despise rules that are often a pure judgement call, especially with the quality of officiating the SEC has. This could get ugly at some point. That said, I would NOT want to be the first guy for the University of Alabama to have a touchdown stripped because of showboating. I'd pull a Forrest Gump and head right out the stadium and never look back.

 

[psychojoe]

I despise rules that are often a pure judgement call, especially with the quality of officiating the SEC has. This could get ugly at some point. That said, I would NOT want to be the first guy for the University of Alabama to have a touchdown stripped because of showboating. I'd pull a Forrest Gump and head right out the stadium and never look back.

Maybe go back to the Bryant era. When palyers scored a TD he told them to act like they'd done it before.

I keep thinking back to a story my dad used to tell on himself. He was quite a good player, had very good speed. He got loose on a long run, and was a lot faster than the player chasing him. He would slow down periodically to let the other guy close in on him, then speed back up when he got close. Finally, somewhere around the ten yard line, he slowed and taunted by extending the ball back towards his opponent, and dropped it! Fortunately he was able to dive on the ball, and his team did eventually get a touchdown. I know he was glad that he played both ways and didn't have to go to the sidelines for a while, though.