🏈 NCAA considering tougher celebration penalities (taunting)

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INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA football rules committee wants coaches to debate turning some dead-ball celebration penalties into live-ball fouls, which could result in taking points off the scoreboard.

Chairman Mike Bellotti, Oregon's coach, cautioned this was not yet a formal proposal and is not likely to take effect for at least two years.

The committee wants to gauge support among coaches. If the rule was eventually changed, players who begin taunting opponents before reaching the end zone could have those touchdowns called back.

The committee also suggested strengthening its sportsmanship statement. Under the recommendation, coaches could be disciplined by conferences or schools for repeated infractions that occur before, during and after games.
 
Im all for rules and sportsmanship but to take points away from a team :shock: Especially when there is so much disparity in enforcement. Some refs call fouls on the smallest of things when other refs wouldnt give it a second look...Id hate to know a game was decided by the ref and his INTERPRETATION of a celebration....Taking points just aint cool.
 
My preference in the area is to do away with the penalty altogether, or at least much more narrowly define it. The guy that is 10 yards ahead of the pack and dives into the end zone is just being exuberant, yet I've seen that flagged. Derric Lassic was flagged when he harmlessly spun the football after he thought he had scored in the 93 Sugar Bowl.

My Dad was a pretty good football player in his day in the late twenties and early thirties. he told a story on himself about how he had broken away on a long run and was a good bit faster than the last opponent who was chasing him. He slowed down then sped back up. As he neared the goal line he extended the ball back towards his opponent ... and dropped it. He was able to pounce on the ball before the opponent could get there, but his team was not able to get it into the end zone. That, plus dealing with his very angry coach, was penalty enough.
 
Southern Bama said:
Im all for rules and sportsmanship but to take points away from a team :shock: Especially when there is so much disparity in enforcement. Some refs call fouls on the smallest of things when other refs wouldnt give it a second look...Id hate to know a game was decided by the ref and his INTERPRETATION of a celebration....Taking points just aint cool.

That is the reason I would be against it the most.
 
reger60 said:
BigAl said:
Sounds like a Communist plot to me.

Someone will blame the Democrats. Red Tsunami? Anyone?
:wink: :D

I'll have a go at it. They wouldn't dream of introducing a rule like this if we had a Republican president.

:D :D

If they are trying to enforce sportsmanship it would be more effective to review these post game and fine the coach of the offending team. Then he'd have a reason to make his team behave.
 
psychojoe said:
reger60 said:
BigAl said:
Sounds like a Communist plot to me.

Someone will blame the Democrats. Red Tsunami? Anyone?
:wink: :D

I'll have a go at it. They wouldn't dream of introducing a rule like this if we had a Republican president.

:D :D

If they are trying to enforce sportsmanship it would be more effective to review these post game and fine the coach of the offending team. Then he'd have a reason to make his team behave.

No, it's about those that don't have the opportunity to celebrate. All about taking away from those who have the points in an effort to make things better for those who don't have the points.
 
TerryP said:
psychojoe said:
reger60 said:
BigAl said:
Sounds like a Communist plot to me.

Someone will blame the Democrats. Red Tsunami? Anyone?
:wink: :D

I'll have a go at it. They wouldn't dream of introducing a rule like this if we had a Republican president.

:D :D

If they are trying to enforce sportsmanship it would be more effective to review these post game and fine the coach of the offending team. Then he'd have a reason to make his team behave.

No, it's about those that don't have the opportunity to celebrate. All about taking away from those who have the points in an effort to make things better for those who don't have the points.

I guess that we'll see teams who go ahead by a large margin penalized as well. Take that Urban for running up the score on Podunk U.
 
the rule is crazy ridiculous as it is and they dont call it consistently which pisses me off big time. tebow does the whole "call me now" gesture and doesnt get flagged yet JP and Stafford do? how is that fair? Marquis Maze folds his arms and STANDS in the end zone and gets flagged. and remember that guy from South Carolina (i think it was) at the beginning of the year who missed a pick and started doing pushups to punish himself for dropping it so they throw a taunting penalty at him. its ridiculous and ill never understand how diving into the endzone is taunting. they are trying their best to take all the fun out of the game for the players.
 
Lots of reasons here to hate the rule.

I hate the celebration penalty because its stupid.


Its an opinionative rule, so its vaguely defined and easy to abuse enforcment of.


Also takes the energy from the #1 spectator sport in America.

EDIT: Who in their right minds that watch college football can honestly say they don't want to see Terrence Cody dunk the football through the goalposts after getting the ball into the endzone as a fullback?
 
Live Ball Foul places this on the same level as fouls that are effectively for cheating to gain an unfair advantage (i.e. tripping, holding, etc.) I fail to see who is being hurt THAT severely to warrant that level of pain. If spiking the football is not as bad as pass interference, the it degrades these penalties.

What man taking the field is going to complain? NONE. Therefor why potentially alter the outcome/winner of the game?

Is this a man's game or not?
 
I think this rule is stupid. Here's why.

Its 1992. SEC CG. UF has the ball and is driving. Shane Matthews throws the quick out. Antonio Langham steps in front, picks it off, and returns it for 6. But wait, the ref thinks Antonio "high stepped" a little too much on his way to the end zone and takes the points off the board.

Or, its the 1996 Iron Bowl and Dennis Riddle just caught the flare pass and juked in for the winning TD. But wait, he raised his arms and held the ball above his head thereby "taunting" the Aubies.

Just like the excessive end zone, after-the-play penalties are totally arbitrary (like the Tebow/JPW cell phone) this one has the added benefit of directly changing the outcome of a game.

If this rule goes into effect, i forsee an English soccer-style riot the first time a games outcome is decided by a ref's in a situation like the ones above. I'm not kidding.
 
If only more coaches insisted on sportsmanship from their players and led by example, this would not be an issue. But when you have a coach like Mark Richt staging team-wide end zone celebrations knowing his team would be penalized it's a little tough to expect anything more from the players.
 
reger60 said:
If only more coaches insisted on sportsmanship from their players and led by example, this would not be an issue. But when you have a coach like Mark Richt staging team-wide end zone celebrations knowing his team would be penalized it's a little tough to expect anything more from the players.

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