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N.C.A.A. Clock May Be Running Out on Graduate Transfers

In two weeks, the N.C.A.A.’s primary legislative body, the Division I Council, will vote on a measure that could severely restrict graduate transfers. The proposed rule change would require that colleges accepting graduate transfers be docked a scholarship the next year if the transfer does not earn his secondary degree within a year.

MINNEAPOLIS — When Matt Mooney was refurbishing used basketball shoes and selling them out of the trunk of his car in high school, that entrepreneurial streak looked as if it would carry him further than basketball. At the time, he had only one Division I scholarship offer.
When Tariq Owens was at a renowned prep school, as a bouncy, loose-limbed, four-star recruit, an N.B.A. career seemed less like a pipe dream than a reasonable career path. College would serve as finishing school.

But several years (and universities) later, there they were last weekend in Anaheim, Calif., with fists clenched and arms raised triumphantly overhead, as unlikely teammates — and improbable one-season catalysts — in helping Texas Tech reach the Final Four for the first time.

Mooney and Owens arrived at Texas Tech less than a year ago as a less heralded type of one-and-done player, having taken advantage of the N.C.A.A.’s graduate transfer rule, which allows athletes who have earned a degree and have eligibility remaining to switch colleges without having to sit out a year.

The graduate transfer rule, the rare N.C.A.A. regulation that gives leverage to the athlete, has been used by hundreds of players since it was relaxed in 2011. And at a moment when athletic admission graft, shoe company payola and questions about whether a transcendent (and unpaid) figure like Zion Williamson should even risk playing college basketball at all, the graduate transfer rule casts the beleaguered N.C.A.A. as reasonable and almost munificent.

It is also a rule that may not last much longer.

In two weeks, the N.C.A.A.’s primary legislative body, the Division I Council, will vote on a measure that could severely restrict graduate transfers. The proposed rule change would require that colleges accepting graduate transfers be docked a scholarship the next year if the transfer does not earn his secondary degree within a year.

So as graduate transfers have continued to increase — there were 124 this season in men’s basketball, according to the website GradTransferTracker, including a handful who were key contributors on N.C.A.A. tournament teams — and as programs have found value in them as a quick fix that suits both team and player, the new rule is seeking to discourage them by effectively adding a tax on programs that accept such players.

“That’s really draconian,” Rodney Fort, a sports economist and professor of sports management at the University of Michigan, said of the rule change. “This is like losing a scholarship from an N.C.A.A. penalty.

The proposal, which could go into effect as soon as Aug. 1, would apply to only three sports — football, women’s basketball and men’s basketball — but appears particularly aimed at men’s basketball. Football teams, with 85 scholarships, are far more capable of coping with the loss of a single scholarship than a men’s basketball squad, which has 13. And there are roughly twice as many graduate transfers each year in men’s basketball as in women’s basketball.

Justin Sell, the athletic director at South Dakota State who led the Division I transfer working group that developed the proposal, said that too often graduate transfers in men’s basketball and football had little interest in obtaining graduate degrees.

“We really want to protect against the football player who is done and leaves in December and the basketball player who is done and leaves in March,” Sell said. “A lot of students are looking to use it to play another year. Who’s seriously there for the master’s?”

Sell said that the committee surveyed athletic directors, faculty representatives, senior woman administrators, coaches and athletes over 18 months. Still, the fingerprints of basketball coaches in the working group’s recommendation were not hard to miss. The lone men’s basketball voice on the committee was St. Joseph’s Coach Phil Martelli, who in a widely publicized 2011 case blocked one of his graduating players from transferring by refusing to sign a release. Partially as a result of that case, releases are no longer required. (Martelli, who was fired by St. Joseph’s last month, declined to comment through a university spokesman.)

The rule itself seems to have come straight from the mouth of Kentucky Coach John Calipari, who suggested to ESPN in 2016 — long before the committee began its work — that “if the kid gets his grad degree in one year, fine; if he doesn’t, you’ve got to use the scholarship for two years.”

Sell conceded objections about practicality (many graduate programs take two years to complete) and fairness (the rule does not apply to athletes who compete as graduate students without transferring) were fair, but said his group’s intent was to “manage behavior.”

“When you’re trying to manage behavior and put together policies and rules in trying to create ethical behavior and integrity, there are challenges to that,” Sell said. “It’s really hard to police integrity.

But the rule change leaves no room to assess the motivations of players who, degrees in hand, seek new horizons with their remaining eligibility. The Ivy League, for example, does not allow its teams to play graduate students; that led the former Yale guard Makai Mason — who had missed his junior season with a broken foot — to help Baylor to the N.C.A.A. tournament this spring. The rule also gave the former Stanford player Reid Travis the opening he needed to take his N.B.A. hopes, and his final year of eligibility, to Kentucky for some postgraduate basketball education.
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Geno Crandall, who had begun his college career at North Dakota, ended it as a reserve guard at Gonzaga this spring.

“I kind of wanted a different experience,” said Crandall, who said he had sought out Mooney, whom he had met when Mooney was at South Dakota, for advice on the transfer process. Crandall is working toward a master’s degree in organizational leadership at Gonzaga but said he took a lighter course load, two classes per semester, so that he could focus on basketball.

“Honestly, I’m actually enjoying it a lot more than I did undergrad,” Crandall said before the Zags lost to Mooney’s Red Raiders in the West Region final last weekend. “There’s a lot more discussion that goes into it, a lot more adult feel. This is more tailored to what you find interesting.”
Gonzaga’s Crandall said he was only vaguely aware of the proposed restrictions on graduate transfers. But he did not like the idea that a rule change might deny future players the path he had chosen.

“Whether it’s good or bad, the N.C.A.A. tries to take a lot of control away from players,” he said. “You commit to a school and they tell you they want you to play and help you get your degree, so I feel like once you get your degree your obligations are kind of fulfilled.”

Nearly 40 percent of Division I men’s basketball players who arrive from high school will transfer by the end of their sophomore year, according to N.C.A.A. data from 2011 to 2017. Owens and Mooney, now in the Final Four, were in that group.

Owens left Tennessee after his freshman year when its coach was fired. He transferred to St. John’s, where he earned a degree in sports management. Mooney left Air Force, unhappy with the military lifestyle, for South Dakota, where he got a degree in innovation and entrepreneurship. He was content to remain there for his final year until his coach, Craig Smith, left for Utah State last April.

With eligibility left because of their transfers, Owens and Mooney hit the graduate transfer market seeking the same thing — a place where they could win (neither had been to the N.C.A.A. tournament) and burnish their skills for a possible pro career. Texas Tech turned out to be a perfect match: a program on the rise with a respected coach, Chris Beard, and a roster that was a perfect fit for Owens, a 6-foot-10 shot-blocker and finisher, and Mooney, a ball-hawking point guard who could find his shot.

“This is an environment where I knew I’d be able to work and I’d be coached hard,” Owens said. “I like being in environments where you’ve got something to prove.”

At Texas Tech, Owens, 23, and Mooney, 24, are enrolled in a master’s program for interdisciplinary studies, taking three classes in the fall and spring that are tailored to their interests. Mooney is taking two of his classes online.

“My primary focus is basketball, to try to set myself up for the pros,” said Mooney, who is studying educational leadership. “Academics aren’t a huge priority right now, but you’ve still got to take care of it. I’ve got my degree — that’s what’s most important.”

He added: “I didn’t leave places because I wasn’t satisfied with playing time or things like that. I definitely didn’t want it to go this way. I didn’t want to go to three different schools. I wanted to go to one school, play there four years, have a great career and have a home to go back to and graduate. But sometimes life doesn’t work out that way.”
Correction: April 4, 2019
An earlier version of this article misidentified the university at which Geno Crandall began his college basketball career. It was North Dakota, not North Dakota State.
 
At Texas Tech, Owens, 23, and Mooney, 24, are enrolled in a master’s program for interdisciplinary studies........Ok

I could be wrong on this... But I believe this is Mooney's 6th year of post HS sports. I know he went to Air Force first and almost all those guys enroll in the "prep" school for a year. Played a couple there then transferred to South Dakota, sat a year, played a year there then grad transferred to Texas Tech. Crazy shit.
 
I could be wrong on this... But I believe this is Mooney's 6th year of post HS sports. I know he went to Air Force first and almost all those guys enroll in the "prep" school for a year. Played a couple there then transferred to South Dakota, sat a year, played a year there then grad transferred to Texas Tech. Crazy shit.

master’s program for interdisciplinary studies......should be a real demand for his expertise
 
master’s program for interdisciplinary studies......should be a real demand for his expertise
Master’s in Interdisciplinary Studies is second only to a Doctorate in Underwater Basket Weaving on the list of Most In Demand Job Requirements.
I can't speak to the value of this type of degree at TTU. I can speak to it when it comes to UA and say when I was in school the acceptance rate for undergrad to grad school for students in Interdisciplinary Studies was over 90%. New College, as I understand it, has grown in the numbers accepted (it was capped at 200 when I was in school) but it's still a very limited student base: a very demanding course load as well.

This seems to me as a very broad brush stroke to label that course load as being something akin to paper classes and sociology degrees--but that's certainly dependant on the school. TTU is listed as one of the top ten schools for ID studies in US News and World Report.
But graduate transfers.....no....they earned a degree..They earned the right..
It's gets really sticky on this slippery slope here.

Yes, they've earned their degree and yes the rules allow them to transfer...to a school that offers a graduate program their current school doesn't not offer. If they aren't completing the school work when the transfer was under the premise they couldn't get that education at their current school...are they right?

We're seeing kids use "educational opportunity" as their reason for transferring and then not taking advantage of the "educational opportunity" they cited as their reason to transfer. To that note, the rule change has a valid point.
 
I can't speak to the value of this type of degree at TTU. I can speak to it when it comes to UA and say when I was in school the acceptance rate for undergrad to grad school for students in Interdisciplinary Studies was over 90%. New College, as I understand it, has grown in the numbers accepted (it was capped at 200 when I was in school) but it's still a very limited student base: a very demanding course load as well.

This seems to me as a very broad brush stroke to label that course load as being something akin to paper classes and sociology degrees--but that's certainly dependant on the school. TTU is listed as one of the top ten schools for ID studies in US News and World Report.

It's gets really sticky on this slippery slope here.

Yes, they've earned their degree and yes the rules allow them to transfer...to a school that offers a graduate program their current school doesn't not offer. If they aren't completing the school work when the transfer was under the premise they couldn't get that education at their current school...are they right?

We're seeing kids use "educational opportunity" as their reason for transferring and then not taking advantage of the "educational opportunity" they cited as their reason to transfer. To that note, the rule change has a valid point.
Learning to use the system? And what part of the world do not we do this?
So they add a caveat.... the player transferring has to graduate or it cost a scholly. That's borderline ok. Makes HC have to decide if player is worth it.
"For every action therd is equal and opposite reaction ". They will find away around it
 
A full-time MBA takes two years (four semesters) of a full class load.
Isn't that more of an old saying versus what actually has to be done? Figure we're looking at 120 hours in most cases for undergrad and a post grad degree is normally a third of the total hours. We've seen guys at UA come out with Masters degrees in five years. A ten hour semester gets you two years, 15 and you're done in a little over a year (depending on a few other factors like non-thesis versus thesis courses, internships versus thesis, etc.)

I do believe docking a school a scholarship is a bit over the top. It's about like double taxation. The schools already lose an initial when they sign and then they'll lose another if the student doesn't finish his work?

Learning to use the system? And what part of the world do not we do this?
That could have easy been written, "Learning how to cheat the system," yes?

We all do things in life which are outside of the law. But, how many have a premeditated plan to cheat the system? How many of these kids would choose to sit a year if required versus moving on to the next stage of their lives? How many of us do "use the system?"

Are we not back to the point of "what they can do" versus "what's the right thing to do?" Just sayin' 🤷‍♂️
 
Isn't that more of an old saying versus what actually has to be done? Figure we're looking at 120 hours in most cases for undergrad and a post grad degree is normally a third of the total hours. We've seen guys at UA come out with Masters degrees in five years. A ten hour semester gets you two years, 15 and you're done in a little over a year (depending on a few other factors like non-thesis versus thesis courses, internships versus thesis, etc.)

I do believe docking a school a scholarship is a bit over the top. It's about like double taxation. The schools already lose an initial when they sign and then they'll lose another if the student doesn't finish his work?


That could have easy been written, "Learning how to cheat the system," yes?

We all do things in life which are outside of the law. But, how many have a premeditated plan to cheat the system? How many of these kids would choose to sit a year if required versus moving on to the next stage of their lives? How many of us do "use the system?"

Are we not back to the point of "what they can do" versus "what's the right thing to do?" Just sayin' 🤷‍♂️

You can get an MA or MS degree in a year, especially if you attend year-round. An MBA takes a bit longer. Many times an MBA involves an internship in your specialty somewhere. They should also consider that if the player is good enough, they will be preparing to enter the pros instead of class during their "final" semester. It doesn't mean they won't complete the degree later, when they have time.
 
@OldPlayer, that means after 20 years removed things still haven't changed that much from post-grad work when I was in Tuscaloosa. The biggest catch about the MBA is some of those programs run as many as 60 hours--half of a normal undergrad, four year program.

It's a sobering thought when you realize the NCAA isn't going to change the way they process ideas. It's so much "here's an idea, it's approved" followed by the annual "oops, didn't see that coming." It's sobering when you see ordinary, not to mention casual, fans seeing the issues before hand.
 
Using system isn't cheating
Its following laws on books. Step by step
The path.
Its cheating if you violate the law
But not if you follow law with its intention and meaning
Therein is the point.

Its cheating if you violate the law --- But not if you follow law with its intention and meaning

The intent is allowing a kid to attend another school because his undergrad doesn't offer the courses he wants to take. When they leave without obtaining, or even moving towards, that post-grad degree they are not following the law with its intention and meaning.

Personally, I've never heard "using the system" in any other light than one taking advantage of a system in a way it wasn't intended to be used.
 
Therein is the point.



The intent is allowing a kid to attend another school because his undergrad doesn't offer the courses he wants to take. When they leave without obtaining, or even moving towards, that post-grad degree they are not following the law with its intention and meaning.

Personally, I've never heard "using the system" in any other light than one taking advantage of a system in a way it wasn't intended to be used.
O boy...me n you disagreeing again...
Actually going to grad school is more than the degree...it’s actually "learning " something....something from a higher level than undergrad......dont always have to grad....something like an intensive educational period....buttttt
Now...i aint dumb enough to think all these guys are changing schools and going to grad school to really "learn".....its for playing sports...like some one said...some grad programs take a couple to several years...
And there are all kinda examples of using the system...our income tax structure...
The courts and law....even the undergraduate programs....all these guys aint at Bama to get a degree in anything.....some are in school to qualify to play sports..no different than grad transfer..
 
And there are all kinda examples of using the system...our income tax structure...
I thought this might come up. There is a difference to be found if we're talking tax codes.

'Tis a bit funny to me we're talking about one where you'd face punishment and another where there is no penalty to be found.
The courts and law....even the undergraduate programs....all these guys aint at Bama to get a degree in anything.....some are in school to qualify to play sports..no different than grad transfer..
Is this true though? The average GSR across the NCAA is at 88%. Are we seeing that kind of number with grad transfers achieving their degree?

Is this any different than a kid saying "he's having a hardship" because he's not playing? Is that within in the intent of the rule(s?)
 
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