šŸ“” LSU must stem the Tide in Louisiana recruiting grounds

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Chris Allen grew up five minutes from LSU's campus and played football at Southern Lab High School, 10 miles north of Tiger Stadium.

Dylan Moses spent 11 years of his prep career on LSU's campus at University Lab High School.

The fact that LSU could potentially land a top 5 recruiting class is a victory in itself.

As kids, Allen and Moses dreamed of playing for the Tigers, and as each developed into blue-chip linebacker prospects their dreams were realized with scholarship offers to LSU.

And as fate would have it, linebacker emerged as a top priority for LSU's football program during Allen and Moses' senior seasons.

Allen, Moses and the LSU Tigers seemed like eHarmony matches in the college football dating circle known as recruiting.

Yet to the dismay of Tiger recruitniks, Allen and Moses, the state's top two linebacker prospects, swiped left on LSU's scholarship offers and opted instead for the arch-rival Crimson Tide.

And they are not the only Louisianans to cast their lot with Alabama.

On Tuesday Neville High School defensive tackle Phidarian Mathis spurned the Tigers for Alabama, joining fellow north Louisiana product, Isaiah Buggs of Ruston in the Crimson Tide's No. 1-ranked recruiting class. Mandeville kicker Joseph Bulovas also joined the class.

The five-man haul represents Alabama's largest pillage of Louisiana talent since Nick Saban became head coach in 2007. And that doesn't take into consideration Amite wide receiver Devonta Smith, Louisiana's top-ranked prospect, who is expected to choose between LSU, Alabama and Miami on Wednesday.

If Smith opts for the Tigers, it will mean Saban will have landed six of the eight Louisiana prospects he offered scholarships to this season, including three of NOLA.com's top four players in the state.

'Bama's 10-0 shutout hurt last November. But it pales in comparison to the beatdown the Crimson Tide is administering to the Tigers on National Signing Day.

Somehow, some way, Ed Orgeron must stem the Tide.

Now that he has retained defensive coordinator Dave Aranda and hired offensive coordinator Matt Canada to bolster his first-year staff, Orgeron's No. 1 objective as Tigers head coach is to stop the exodus of in-state talent to Tuscaloosa.

It might be unreasonable to expect Orgeron to completely shut down the Tide's advances. After all, Saban has built a Titanic in Tuscaloosa. The Tide routinely conduct similar raids in talent-rich territories like California, Florida and Texas. But Coach O must at least slow the outward migration from a rush to a trickle.

Otherwise, the talent chasm between the two programs will continue to widen and 'Bama's six-game winning streak in the series will extend indefinitely.

Orgeron knows this better than anyone. Recruiting is embedded in his DNA. During his 30-year career as an assistant coach, Coach O built a reputation as a tireless recruiter with a keen eye for football talent. His recruiting prowess was one of the main reasons LSU hired him.

Athletic director Joe Alleva called Orgeron "one of the finest recruiters in the country" at his introductory press conference in November. That same day Coach O laid down the gauntlet by declaring, "Now the real war's starting in recruiting, but we're ready to do it."

Since then, the Tide has won nearly every battle it has waged with the Tigers, including a handful of key engagements on Pelican State soil.

To be fair, Orgeron has operated at a competitive disadvantage from the outset. Because of LSU's mid-season coaching change, he was forced to play catch-up and wasn't able to make up enough ground with key recruits once his interim tag was removed in late November.

So Orgeron and his staff get a pass for this year. But that can't be an excuse going forward. He needs to build a wall around Louisiana and keep 'Bama out. Otherwise, he'll experience the same fate Les Miles did at the helm.

Winning in February is the key to winning in November. If Orgeron and LSU want to beat Alabama on the field, they must beat the Crimson Tide off it. And it starts with establishing a beachhead in Louisiana.

LSU must stem the Tide in Louisiana recruiting grounds
 
Talk about sunshine pumping. Geez maneez.

LSU's staff already won on National Signing Day

No matter the outcome on National Signing Day, Ed Orgeron and his staff already knocked the 2017 recruiting cycle out of the park.

Many will judge the overall success of LSU's 2017 class on the decisions made by a small contingent of prospects on National Signing Day. Right or wrong, that is most certainly going to be the case. For some of the more seasoned and reasonable fans, they will understand the significance of what the LSU staff has already accomplished this cycle. Unfortunately, it would likely be far fewer than deserved.

What we witnessed this year from Ed Orgeron and his staff was nothing short of miraculous. LSU is coming off one of the most disappointing seasons in the program's history. We watched the winningest coach in program history become a voodoo doll for angry Louisianians.
 
Talk about sunshine pumping. Geez maneez.
A different take from CBSSports.com

WR Devonta Smith (Amite, La.)
Ranking: No. 64 overall, No. 9 WR
Finalists: Alabama, LSU, Miami

Why you should care: Nick Saban is trying to ruin Ed Orgeron's first signing day as coach of his beloved LSU by stealing the No. 2 player in the state from right under his nose. Smith has long been considered a lean to land at Alabama, but LSU has been steadily trending here and suddenly looks like a viable threat to steal the rare talent. Will an unofficial visit to Tuscaloosa the weekend before signing day be enough to hold off LSU for an in-state stud?
 
Gawd, the meltdown on the Bayou if this comes true?

ESPN Recruiting Insider Predicts National Signing Day ā€œStunnerā€
An ESPN recruiting insider is predicting a surprise commitment.


Marvin Wilson, the No. 1 defensive tackle and top uncommitted recruit in the 2017 class, is set to announce his decision tomorrow, National Signing Day.

The 6-foot-4, 329-pound prospect out of Texas will be deciding between Florida State, LSU, Ohio State and Oklahoma.

LSU is widely expected to be the choice. On 247Sports’ ā€œCrystal Ball,ā€ the Tigers have 71 percent of the predictions.

ESPN recruiting insider Jeremy Crabtree, though, is predicting a ā€œstunner.ā€

The national consensus is that five-star defensive tackle Marvin Wilson will go to LSU, and it’s hard to discount the lure of the Bayou Bengals and Ed Orgeron to any top defensive lineman.

But Wilson, the fourth-ranked player in the ESPN 300, from Houston, will pull a signing day surprise and ink with Florida State, largely because of the recruiting abilities of Tim Brewster and Odell Haggins.

Brewster, the Noles’ ace recruiter, has done very well over the years in Houston, and Wilson would be Brewster’s biggest get since he convinced Vince Young to come to Texas when he was an assistant in Austin.​

Wilson is set to announce his choice at 4 p.m. E.T. on ESPN2.
 
There is no sunshine pumping by the locals...

Phidarian Mathis Commits to Alabama

The most painful part here is that LSU continues to hemorrhage in the northern part of the state. Mathis is a top 100 DL that would have added superb depth to LSU’s growing group, but instead he’s off to Bama. Despite it not being a banner year in state, LSU is sitting with only one top 10 player in state committed, if you count Dylan Moses as a Louisiana athlete.
 
Despite it not being a banner year in state, LSU is sitting with only one top 10 player in state committed, if you count Dylan Moses as a Louisiana athlete.

247's composite has LSU with the #1 and #10 players in state. Georgia Tech going in and taking a kid out of their top 10 shocks the hell out of me.
 
Looks about like Ole Miss in Mississippi.
For a team like LSU, a team that desperately needs linebackers, to lose one to GT? Seriously.

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I still think that the LSU admin. strategy was to pursue the only two coaches who they thought were of comparable caliber to Saban, Fisher and Herman. Plan C was to settle for a coach who they figure can compete with Saban only in in-state recruiting and then to hopefully find upstart coordinators to improve execution. Essentially, LSU's head coach is their recruting coordinator.
 
Time will tell...but Jimbo at 6.5 mill a year would have been a bargain....
LSU will probably adopt the Miss State slogan about Cam Newton.....
"Just pay the man"....
When you are competing vs Saban...you better be ...the man...
I dont see O as that man...
 
Cecil.....LMAO!

"Also, it's not correct to say that Alabama got everyone it wanted out of Louisiana. The Crimson Tide didn't sign Emeril Lagasse, or any of the Duck Dynasty dudes, or Lil Wayne. Everyone else Alabama wanted – especially if you include Baton Rouge native Dylan Moses as the real No. 1 Louisiana prospect, despite his year at IMG Academy – Alabama signed."

Recruiting - NATIONAL SIGNING DAY: 2017
 



BATON ROUGE — Six!

Six of the very best college football prospects from ā€œThe Bootā€ are leaving for ā€œThe Bama.ā€

They will very likely be a part of Alabama coach Nick Saban’s sixth national championship, counting his one as LSU’s coach in the 2003 season before the four at Alabama since 2009, and maybe his fifth and sixth at Alabama alone in the near future.

Not even Alabama coach Bear Bryant dipped into Louisiana for players as much as Saban in this one recruiting season. He just keeps turning that machete in the backs of the LSU Nation — six (There’s that number again!) straight LSU losses to Alabama on the field and 10 straight in the recruiting rankings.

LSU has not had a recruiting class ranked higher than Alabama by Rivals.com since 2007 when coach Les Miles’ second class in which he had a full year to recruit finished No. 4 and Alabama’s class finished No. 11 when Saban was on the job for one month.

Maybe LSU is paying for what Miles said at that Bayou Bash recruiting party in February of 2007. ā€œWe have a new rival in (expletive deleted) Alabama,ā€ he said to a thunderous ovation.

Since then, Saban has put together eight No. 1 classes, including his 2017 group. What an underachiever he is! He has won only four national titles with that many No. 1 classes?

LSU fans would kill for such underachievement.

ā€œYou can’t beat him,ā€ one veteran LSU writer said shaking his head Wednesday.

ā€œI don’t want to (expletive deleted) hear it,ā€ an LSU football office employee said when told which class was ranked No. 1 at the end of signing day.

And he just keeps getting better. At 65, he broke his own record Wednesday by signing 21 of ESPN’s top 300 prospects.

New LSU coach Ed Orgeron got the job largely because of his recruiting prowess and the hope that he could at least compete with Saban. Other than Saban, Orgeron has been one of the best in the business from Florida to California and New York, and many locales in between like Mississippi and Tennessee. And Saban brought him to his knees.

Six!

Yes, it was just Orgeron's first recruiting season as a head coach at LSU, and he just got the job. Yes, he did a good job with this recruiting class since he and his staff and the players they wanted to keep recruiting did not know until last Nov. 26 that he was going to be more than LSU’s interim coach. And his No. 7 class is the best ranking by a just hired coach in years. But hold on, it’s not like he just got here.

Orgeron has been on LSU’s staff since January of 2015, and he was recruiting coordinator since January of 2016. And he became interim coach on Sept. 25. Miles also left him with 19 commitments, and he finished Wednesday with just 23.

He lost a commitment from No. 20 wide receiver and No. 130 national prospect Jhamon Ausbon of the IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida, via Episcopal High in Houston to Texas A&M in November. And he lost No. 2 outside linebacker Dylan Moses of IMG via University High in Baton Rouge. Moses actually de-committed from LSU before Miles was fired on Sept. 25, but Orgeron didn’t get him back.

He was also unable to stop No. 1 junior college prospect and five-star defensive end Isaiah Buggs from Gulf Coast Community College in Mississippi via Ruston High from getting away to Alabama. No. 6 wide receiver DeVonta Smith of Amite, No. 10 defensive tackle Phidarian Mathis of Neville High in Monroe, No. 14 outside linebacker Chris Allen from Southern Lab in Baton Rouge and No. 1 kicker Joseph Bulovas of Mandeville are also leaving for Alabama.

Yes, Orgeron did very well to keep most of Miles’ class and add two of his own — No. 2 inside linebacker Jacob Phillips of Nashville, Tennessee, and No. 8 inside linebacker Tyler Taylor of Sugar Hill, Georgia. He flipped Phillips from Oklahoma and got Taylor out of Georgia and away from Auburn, Alabama and Oklahoma. He also managed a signing day coup on Wednesday by signing No. 6 defensive end K’Lavon Chaisson from Houston away from Texas. LSU had been recruiting him for two years, but O closed the deal.

That’s what I was expecting, but I was expecting more from that in Louisiana with players Saban wanted.

Because this is Orgeron. He has been marketed as ā€œThe Recruiterā€ LSU needed for years now. There is a lot of spin around Orgeron now. There usually is with a new coach. But there is a little more than usual with Orgeron, partly because he is a great guy, he’s from here, and there was a lot of Miles fatigue. But also because he has quite a few friends in the media, and LSU fans are getting a little more delusional with each Alabama loss — on the field or on the recruiting trail.

Bottom line is this: Regardless of the coaching changeover, Orgeron, a member of LSU’s staff for two full years now who has kept most of that staff intact, let six of Louisiana’s finest go to Alabama. Six! That can’t happen, and he knows it. It definitely can’t happen again.

Orgeron might need to consider a second home in Monroe, a former LSU stronghold in which Saban tapped for Mathis this year along with No. 1 offensive tackle Cameron Robinson from West Monroe and No. 3 safety Hootie Jones from Neville High in 2014. LSU did get No. 10 defensive tackle Rashard Lawrence out of Neville High in Monroe last year.

ā€œIt’s not like we’ve been losing players out of Monroe,ā€ Orgeron said testily enough to make you realize he is motivated to stop losing players out of Monroe to Alabama. ā€œIt’s not like we didn’t go there and try this year. It’s not like it was a poor job of recruiting, in my opinion. Sometimes guys are going to choose to go other places. But we’re going to give it all we got.ā€

In fairness, Alabama also took five from Florida. That’s nearly half Saban's class from two other states. Frankly, the state of Alabama does not deserve a football program as dominant as the University of Alabama’s, based on talent in that state.

So, Louisiana needs to build a wall around its state to keep its elite players inside. And make Saban pay for it.
 
In fairness, Alabama also took five from Florida. That’s nearly half Saban's class from two other states. Frankly, the state of Alabama does not deserve a football program as dominant as the University of Alabama’s, based on talent in that state.

He's harkening back to his days writing for the Mobile paper.
 
In fairness, Alabama also took five from Florida. That’s nearly half Saban's class from two other states. Frankly, the state of Alabama does not deserve a football program as dominant as the University of Alabama’s, based on talent in that state.
@planomateo posted this in another thread.

IF "the state of Alabama does not deserve ... based on talent in that state," what does this say about Louisiana?

 
He might as well say that half Alabama's class is early enrolling too :D.

LSU fans saying, good class considering it's a new coaching staff. O's been there how long...how many new coaches do they have again?

Locals are paying attention...if O can't keep talent in state, it's gonna be even tougher for him.
 
Let them go the day after NSD...

Anyone know which regions Craig was responsible for recruiting at FSU and LSU? 247sports shows him as LSU's best recruiter, but ranked #27 in the SEC (behind 5 Alabama coaches).

Craig was the Recruiting Coordinator as well :shock:

Keep an eye out on Pete Jenkins too.

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