šŸ“” LiAngelo Ball, 2 other UCLA players arrested in China for shoplifting

Three UCLA men's basketball players -- including LiAngelo Ball, the younger brother of Los Angeles Lakers rookie Lonzo Ball -- were arrested in China just days before Friday's season-opening game against Georgia Tech in Shanghai, sources told ESPN's Jeff Goodman.

One source told ESPN the group of players -- which also included freshmen Cody Riley and Jalen Hill -- was arrested on shoplifting charges.

The players are being questioned about stealing from a Louis Vuitton store that is located next to the team's hotel in Hangzhou, where the Bruins had been staying before moving on to Shanghai on Wednesday.

A source tells ESPN the three players are not currently with the team in Shanghai, where UCLA was scheduled to practice Wednesday.

"We are aware of a situation involving UCLA student-athletes in Hangzhou, China," UCLA said in a statement. "The University is cooperating fully with local authorities on this matter, and we have no further comment at this time."

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said the conference was directing specifics about what transpired to UCLA.

"We are very disappointed by any situation that detracts from the positive student-athlete educational and cultural experience that this week is about," Scott said. "Whether in the United States or abroad, we expect our student-athletes to uphold the highest standards. We will continue to closely monitor the situation."

LaVar Ball; his wife, Tina; and LaMelo Ball were having breakfast with the UCLA team in Shanghai on Wednesday morning. LaVar was expected to address the media from his hotel suite Wednesday morning in Shanghai, but he said he was advised by counsel not to speak "due to the legal nature of the matter."

As he was leaving the hotel later Wednesday, LaVar said: "I'm going to wait until I get some more intel on what's going on, and then I can tell you what's up."

Asked if he was worried about LiAngelo, LaVar said, "He'll be fine. He'll be fine. Everybody making it a big deal; it ain't that big of a deal."

LaVar later released a statement about LiAngelo's shoplifting allegations: "It is a very unfortunate situation that the Ball family and UCLA has to deal with at this particular time. We will comment shortly."

One source told ESPN that nearly 20 police officers came into the Hyatt Hangzhou at approximately 8 a.m. local time Tuesday and spoke to multiple players from both Georgia Tech and UCLA. The players, according to the source, were kept in a room for hours and not allowed to speak to any of the coaches.

"They weren't messing around," the source told ESPN. "The kids were scared."

The Georgia Tech players were allowed to leave the room hours later, and the UCLA players were seen getting into a police vehicle around 1 p.m. local time, according to the source.

Georgia Tech released a statement to ESPN on Tuesday, saying that three of their players were questioned by local authorities at their hotel.

"During the questioning, it was determined that Georgia Tech student-athletes were not involved in the activities being investigated," Georgia Tech said in the statement. "They have resumed their scheduled activities in advance of Saturday's season opener versus UCLA in Shanghai."

The teams are scheduled to visit Shanghai Disney Resort on Wednesday.

ESPN reports
 
One source told ESPN that nearly 20 police officers came into the Hyatt Hangzhou at approximately 8 a.m. local time Tuesday and spoke to multiple players from both Georgia Tech and UCLA. The players, according to the source, were kept in a room for hours and not allowed to speak to any of the coaches.

"They weren't messing around," the source told ESPN. "The kids were scared."
In China, arrested for shoplifting? I don't know a lot about Chinese law but based on my limited knowledge it's not going to be anything akin to stepping in front of a judge--on shoplifting charges--in Compton.

They ought to be scared.
 
Wow, LaVarr's fatass mouth has nothing to say? You know it's serious when that asshole is not popping off at the mouth and listening to "council" after all his racists and masogynysts drivel. Maybe he needs to sell more of Lonzo's shoes so his other son won't steal from a women's purse store (yes, I understand they sell a men's line and accessories, but funnier to say what they are known for).
 
This is what happens when you assume that Chinese laws are the same as in the U.S. If this was the U.S., they would probably get a slap on the wrist (although the value of an item from Louis Vuitton might make it a hard slap). The Chinese don't mess around on crime of any type. It's one of the many ways the Communist country keeps citizens under control.
 
This is what happens when you assume that Chinese laws are the same as in the U.S. If this was the U.S., they would probably get a slap on the wrist (although the value of an item from Louis Vuitton might make it a hard slap). The Chinese don't mess around on crime of any type. It's one of the many ways the Communist country keeps citizens under control.


Want to state I am 100% for Democracy and a free society republic like the United States, but you can't help but admire the hard line the Chinese put on this stuff. Not quite an eye for an eye, but don't knowingly fuck up and do wrong by society or you'll pay the price. I have a feeling America would be better off not fooling around with sentencing and take a harder line on all crimes, even the petty ones to teach people it's DEFINITELY not worth it to break the law. Wouldn't shock me if they got a lighter sentence being younger Americans in the public spotlight and just embarrass them more than anything, but I almost wish they would get three years for being freaking idiots. Sad that LaVarr's mouth has created such disdain and ill will towards his entire family. You just root against them now, like The Kardashians.
 
Just Googled it and it looks like little Ball and his teammates could face a minimum 3 years and up to 10 in a "re-education" facility.
That was the first thing that crossed my mind; their "re-education."

The second thing I wonder about is how the Chinese government/Judicial system handles bail. Will it be an issue for them to leave the country?

Heck, I can see this easily becoming an international quandary of sorts.
 
That was the first thing that crossed my mind; their "re-education."

The second thing I wonder about is how the Chinese government/Judicial system handles bail. Will it be an issue for them to leave the country?

Heck, I can see this easily becoming an international quandary of sorts.

There is no American style bail system nor due process as we know it.

The university and consulate have some leverage in protecting goodwill for future sporting exchanges, but the PRC has to constantly avoid showing favoritism to foreigners to appease a people who are held to equal punishment for equal crime.

The worst thing LaVar could do is start defending his son, if known to be guilty, while blaming/calling out the PRC. We all know this was a setup over some deal gone bad with Big Baller Shoe manufacturing. ... right? (Sarcasm)

Trump is headed there this week. I'm certain sticky finger bball players are on top of his agenda for US international policies in Asia. (Unfortunately, not as much sarcasm)
 
@uagrad93 @Che Boludo

LiAngelo Ball could face Chinese jail time

SHOPLIFTING CAN BE A SERIOUS OFFENSE IN CHINA
In the U.S., potential charges and accompanying penalties for shoplifting depend on the value of the items stolen and whether the defendant has a criminal record. Although the laws of each state and the predilections of each sentencing judge play important roles in sentencing, a person convicted of shoplifting items worth under $1,000 often isn’t sentenced to jail. This is particularly true if the defendant has no criminal record. Such a defendant is usually only ordered to pay a fine or perform community service. In contrast, a repeat shoplifter who steals higher-value items could be looking at months or even years behind bars.

China adopts a similar system for shoplifting, although one with potentially longer prison sentences. According to the Routledge Handbook of Chinese Criminology, minor crimes, such as petty theft and prostitution, are often handled through so-called ā€œadministrative punishments.ā€ An administrative punishment is one imposed after the police determine that a person is guilty. A basic administrative punishment is some combination of up to 15 days in jail, fines and warnings.

As an additional type of ā€œadministrative punishmentā€ in China, a person accused of petty theft or similar crimes can face ā€œReeducation through Labor,ā€ or RTL. Such a punishment appears reserved more for repeat offenders. It can carry up to a four-year sentence in a reeducation facility (jail).
 
On a different note here...

We discussed the ruling(s) by the legislature in California banning travel to states in the Southeast for what they considered discrimination.

BUT, they allow UCLA to travel to China? A country known for it's human rights violations?
 
The second thing I wonder about is how the Chinese government/Judicial system handles bail. Will it be an issue for them to leave the country?
Charged UCLA Players Won't Come Home With the Team
The three UCLA basketball players who were caught shoplifting while on the team trip to China will more than likely have to remain in China for about a month, according to multiple sources.

The three freshman players -- Cody Riley, Jalen Hall and LiAngelo Ball -- were arrested Tuesday by Chinese authorities for shoplifting at the Louis Vuitton store next to the team hotel, the Hyatt Regency, in Hangzshou, a city about 100 miles from Shanghai.

Sources have indicated that the three players have admitted to committing the crime, and reports indicate the three stole sunglasses from the high-end store.
 
Charged UCLA Players Won't Come Home With the Team
The three UCLA basketball players who were caught shoplifting while on the team trip to China will more than likely have to remain in China for about a month, according to multiple sources.

The three freshman players -- Cody Riley, Jalen Hall and LiAngelo Ball -- were arrested Tuesday by Chinese authorities for shoplifting at the Louis Vuitton store next to the team hotel, the Hyatt Regency, in Hangzshou, a city about 100 miles from Shanghai.

Sources have indicated that the three players have admitted to committing the crime, and reports indicate the three stole sunglasses from the high-end store.
I hope they are in jail the entire month and not at the Hyatt Regency. Maybe, they will learn a lesson!
 
That was the first thing that crossed my mind; their "re-education."

The second thing I wonder about is how the Chinese government/Judicial system handles bail. Will it be an issue for them to leave the country?

Heck, I can see this easily becoming an international quandary of sorts.


Just gonna throw this out there.....If they are detained and not allowed to leave the country it will prolly be the last time the NCAA has a prelim game in another nation. Also I could see Obama getting involved and trying to help get the kids back.....But i dont think trump would step in and try to influence them to turn them over. I feel he will let them sit there for sure. Especially since it was for theft.
 
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